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Postby baddot » Tue, 07 Jul 2009 2:45 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:In the eyes of MOM, a WP is a WP pure and simple. Doesn't matter if she's a maid, or works as a beautician or is a welder in a shipyard. Also doesn't matter where or who she lives with. You can apply and probably should at least try as soon as possible. But the odds are against you. But if you marry without permission anyway, MOM and ICA will make your life a living hell as my Nephew & his wife can attest to..

Then again, you might get lucky. Who knows. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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what about worse to worse case if the approval dosent get approved what should i do ? get married at malaysia ?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 07 Jul 2009 4:10 pm

Won't make any difference. Well, actually, it will, it'll make it worse. You will then be in the same situation that my nephew is in. At the moment his wife and 1 years old daughter are in the Philippines and have been there since last October. Still not able to come back.

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Postby nursabrina » Tue, 28 Jul 2009 1:07 pm

MOM & ICA makes our life a living hell indeed. For nearly 10 years my ban still can't be lifted and my 8 years old son haven't meet his roots in Singapore. We are willing to do everything in order to lift the ban but I hope MOM & ICA will be more lenient to tell us what are we suppose to do.
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Postby lawrence8068 » Tue, 22 Sep 2009 3:08 pm

Help.................

My philippines girlfriend was banned for one year, April 2008 to April 2009,
now the ban is over.

So my gf is planning to reenter into singapore again, so what should she do? need to get the approval from ICA or just enter as normal( fill in the white card only)????

Please advise................................

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Postby aklancer » Tue, 22 Sep 2009 5:27 pm

starbucke wrote:All Work permit Holder regardless of which country he or she came from are required to apply for permission to wed(Marriage Policy)

Regardless of WHETHER the Work Permit holder has left Singapore for 1 day, 1 year,10 years....., permission is required from Work Permit Holder to wed a Singapore National/PR!

Many of our neighbour(Malaysia) thought nothing much of it when they apply for work passes to work in Singapore, declaring themself as single even though married!

It is very sad when MOM/ICA found out their actual status. They can be charge for providing false information in obtaining the work pass. Penalty is jail, fine or both, after which, the work pass holder will have to serve a long period of ban upon repatriation!

I have client coming to me so pathetic, some even cried(including guys). So...

Let this posting reminds and warn all those work permit holder, please..please...Do not fiddle with ICA/MOM regulation

Our regulation is very strict, and is tough to be pardon

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Hi Starbucke & all, I am a Singapore PR & my galfren is ex-WP holder ( both M'sian). We are planning to ROM next month. So, we would need to get permission from MOM right? Any idea which dept. shall we heading to? How long will it be approved?

Thank you.

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Postby shashalisa » Thu, 08 Oct 2009 4:48 pm

Hi all,

If the couple seek approval from ROM first, will they will able to get married successfully ?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 08 Oct 2009 6:01 pm

Depends on whether or not MOM gives them permission to marry. Applying and getting are two different things. It's possible that she had a problem in the past and may be no longer welcome here, or there could be some other blemish on her work record. There is no way of telling with the MOM. But I can guarantee you one thing. Get married without permission of the MOM and she'll never be allowed stay here. That much is fact.

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Postby shashalisa » Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:45 am

Thanks, sundaymorningstaple.

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Postby QJ » Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:30 pm

that's scary!

i had a bf whom is on the verge of divorcing. he would be soon granted his divorce cert from msia. would it be affected as well that he's marrying me here? since im a singaporean and he's a malaysian?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:49 pm

If he has ever worked in Singapore on a Work Permit he would still need to get permission from MOM first. Otherwise, you will need to get ready to move to Malaysia if you want to stay with him.

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Postby QJ » Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:56 pm

does he need to update his status before asking for permission from mom? would it be affected that he's on divorce status?

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Postby grace fifi » Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:28 pm

hihi, im a foreign students here who was holding work permit trainee pass before, because my course is hotel management, attachment is compulsory for every students, so after we completed our course, our school will apply a work permit trainee pass for every foreigner students so that we can be trained and work as a trainee in a hotel industry or a company, and now my attachment is over already, so does a work permit trainee pass holder or a ex--holder can marry to singaporean here? i have known my boyfriend for 4 years, and we're very happy to be together and enjoy our lives here,and my boyfriend planing to marry me in next year, but after reading all the posts here, im start to worry that my future hubby cannot marry me because i was a work permit trainee pass holder,or im not qualify......can anyone give some suggestions for our future? im really worry we will encourter same case as be banned of entering singapore.. im really so worried,,,, thanks for everyone's help
sundaymorningstaple wrote:When a Work Permit holder (female) enters the country and has her pass issued, she is also informed that she cannot marry a Singaporean as long as she is on a work permit AND after she finishes her Work Permit, she has to leave the country. If that isn't enough, Once she has worked in Singapore, by law, she MUST GET PERMISSION to marry a Singaporean. If she does not get permission to marry a Singaporean from the Singapore Authorities, She will be not allowed to enter Singapore and will have to wait endless amounts of time to be allowed back in even though the Husband has a job and so forth. I have a nephew living with me with that exact problem. His wife finished her contract here and later they got married in the Philippines. They then returned to Singapore and she initially got a LTSVP but when it was time for renewal she was forced to leave the country (with a 6 month old baby). We've been to the MP several times and also with the Minister for Home Affairs appealing this thing and we are still battling it. It's a bit rough on the father AND the mother (hopefully this doesn't go on too long as then the child might start feeling it as well).

It sucks, but Work Permit holders are aware of this before they sign on the dotted line so they only have themselves to blame for not asking questions if they didn't understand it.
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Postby grace fifi » Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:32 pm

by the way, forgot to mention that my boyfriend is also a singaporean... and i also very surprised about the singapore LAW,, its really strict and unfathomable..
grace fifi wrote:hihi, im a foreign students here who was holding work permit trainee pass before, because my course is hotel management, attachment is compulsory for every students, so after we completed our course, our school will apply a work permit trainee pass for every foreigner students so that we can be trained and work as a trainee in a hotel industry or a company, and now my attachment is over already, so does a work permit trainee pass holder or a ex--holder can marry to singaporean here? i have known my boyfriend for 4 years, and we're very happy to be together and enjoy our lives here,and my boyfriend planing to marry me in next year, but after reading all the posts here, im start to worry that my future hubby cannot marry me because i was a work permit trainee pass holder,or im not qualify......can anyone give some suggestions for our future? im really worry we will encourter same case as be banned of entering singapore.. im really so worried,,,, thanks for everyone's help
sundaymorningstaple wrote:When a Work Permit holder (female) enters the country and has her pass issued, she is also informed that she cannot marry a Singaporean as long as she is on a work permit AND after she finishes her Work Permit, she has to leave the country. If that isn't enough, Once she has worked in Singapore, by law, she MUST GET PERMISSION to marry a Singaporean. If she does not get permission to marry a Singaporean from the Singapore Authorities, She will be not allowed to enter Singapore and will have to wait endless amounts of time to be allowed back in even though the Husband has a job and so forth. I have a nephew living with me with that exact problem. His wife finished her contract here and later they got married in the Philippines. They then returned to Singapore and she initially got a LTSVP but when it was time for renewal she was forced to leave the country (with a 6 month old baby). We've been to the MP several times and also with the Minister for Home Affairs appealing this thing and we are still battling it. It's a bit rough on the father AND the mother (hopefully this doesn't go on too long as then the child might start feeling it as well).

It sucks, but Work Permit holders are aware of this before they sign on the dotted line so they only have themselves to blame for not asking questions if they didn't understand it.
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Postby grace fifi » Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:40 pm

hihi,everyone, and i got one more thing which is not quite understanding is by the time i went to collect my work permit trainee pass, the MOM issued me a computer generated letter which is written that
"Dear sir/madam
waiver of requirement to apply for marriage
pleast note that there is no need for you to obtain the approval of the controller of work passes before you can marry a singapore citizen or PR,the relevant work permit condition will hence not apply to you..
yours faithfully
does anyone understand what is the letter for to issue me or what the perpose of MOM for issuing this ? does it mean i cannot marry here with a local??? thanks a lot for the advise...thanks
grace fifi wrote:by the way, forgot to mention that my boyfriend is also a singaporean... and i also very surprised about the singapore LAW,, its really strict and unfathomable..
grace fifi wrote:hihi, im a foreign students here who was holding work permit trainee pass before, because my course is hotel management, attachment is compulsory for every students, so after we completed our course, our school will apply a work permit trainee pass for every foreigner students so that we can be trained and work as a trainee in a hotel industry or a company, and now my attachment is over already, so does a work permit trainee pass holder or a ex--holder can marry to singaporean here? i have known my boyfriend for 4 years, and we're very happy to be together and enjoy our lives here,and my boyfriend planing to marry me in next year, but after reading all the posts here, im start to worry that my future hubby cannot marry me because i was a work permit trainee pass holder,or im not qualify......can anyone give some suggestions for our future? im really worry we will encourter same case as be banned of entering singapore.. im really so worried,,,, thanks for everyone's help
sundaymorningstaple wrote:When a Work Permit holder (female) enters the country and has her pass issued, she is also informed that she cannot marry a Singaporean as long as she is on a work permit AND after she finishes her Work Permit, she has to leave the country. If that isn't enough, Once she has worked in Singapore, by law, she MUST GET PERMISSION to marry a Singaporean. If she does not get permission to marry a Singaporean from the Singapore Authorities, She will be not allowed to enter Singapore and will have to wait endless amounts of time to be allowed back in even though the Husband has a job and so forth. I have a nephew living with me with that exact problem. His wife finished her contract here and later they got married in the Philippines. They then returned to Singapore and she initially got a LTSVP but when it was time for renewal she was forced to leave the country (with a 6 month old baby). We've been to the MP several times and also with the Minister for Home Affairs appealing this thing and we are still battling it. It's a bit rough on the father AND the mother (hopefully this doesn't go on too long as then the child might start feeling it as well).

It sucks, but Work Permit holders are aware of this before they sign on the dotted line so they only have themselves to blame for not asking questions if they didn't understand it.
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:00 am

It would seem that you are not on a normal work permit as you initially led us to believe. You were on a training work permit which obviously they handle in a different way. Once you obtain (if you do) a normal WP then I would suspect the new permit would include the bit about getting permission. That or it's been recently changed.


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