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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 17 Oct 2011 2:14 pm

Why don't you write to MOM and request permission to ROM? I assume he is on a Work Permit. You HAVE to have permission to marry him even if he were to get an S or EP as if he has EVER BEEN on a Work Permit, MOM permission much be obtained before you can marry (if you marry in Malaysia, he still needs permission from MOM or he will never be allowed to stay in Singapore.

After you, hopefully, get permission from MOM, then you can worry about getting him PR or even a S pass. But as long as you two are not married you cannot do anything regardless of how much money you make.

Get permission from MOM - First.

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Postby specgals » Mon, 17 Oct 2011 3:00 pm

Then when will be the suggested appropriate time to apply for the approval of marriage? As the last spass rejection was only received this beginning of oct2011. Will the recent rejection of his spass affect the outcome of the approval of marriage?

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Postby specgals » Mon, 17 Oct 2011 3:12 pm

As well as i read from the past replies of this topic, that for a singaporean female to married to a foreigner male holding work permit, a higher view of basic salary will be required from the female. Hence i would like to know base on our current taken salary will there be a high chance for the application to get approve?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 17 Oct 2011 3:44 pm

Until he gets permission to marry from MOM don't even think about anything else. Him getting permission to marry is his first priority. Don't try putting the cart before the horse. Get permission then try to figure out which way to go. He's already got an employment visa so that hurdle is cleared anyway. If permission is granted, then even if he loses his job, he should be able to get an LTVP with no problem. As he is Malaysian Chinese, I'm pretty sure the reason for not gaining an S pass is due to qualifications. The problem is, none of us have any inside tract to the halls of power at MOM or ICA. So all we can do is give anecdotal evidence based on those who have been through it and compiling data, and making educated guesses.

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Postby specgals » Mon, 17 Oct 2011 6:27 pm

Got it! really thanks alot for your reply.

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Postby specgals » Mon, 17 Oct 2011 6:32 pm

May i also know, for the letter of marriage approval, how long does it usually valid for? 3mth of 6mth?

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successful application for complicated situation

Postby ronbo » Sat, 10 Dec 2011 10:54 am

Hi All,

I am here to share with all on my successful application for my PRC wife who was a Ex-WP holder, as I understand the anxiety, frustrations and doubts when going through the process.

My case is more complicated but was approved on my first try and the result were out earlier than I expected.

I just got divorced with my ex-wife. I had a child with my PRC wife before we married. First, I applied to MOM on the permission to marry her - approved within 1 week. We ROM in the 2nd following week and applied for her LSVP and citizenship for my kid the next day. Both were approved.

Feel free to share or ask if you need assistance on issues like this.

Good luck to all

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:36 am

This is exactly what I've been saying all along. If you do it by the numbers, it's usually a smooth journey. Try to go around the system, die-die alredi. You did it exactly as required. Not hard, and usually MOM is good about giving permission, for the most part. Of course your income is a requirement for the LTVP but as long as you meet the requirements, you are okay.

Of course, having the right ethnicity helps as well. :wink:

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Is the ruling a bit outdated?

Postby jdanthony77 » Fri, 06 Jan 2012 1:40 pm

I remember this ruling from when I used to study in Singapore (20 years ago). Once you hold a Work Permit, you basically cannot marry a Singaporean without permission and good reason.

This was when Singapore had a much lower non-Singaporean population.

While this regulation still applies to the WP (people living in Singapore earning an honest living), I don't think it applies to anyone else (potentially dishonest people who've never held a WP and are getting married for their own ends).

Having said that, it is still difficult to get a PR or long-term visit pass for your non-Singaporean spouse (I know of two people married to non-Singaporean who had to reappeal) but it is still possible.

Seems to be a helluva lot more difficult (and unnecessarily so) for a WP holder.

Maybe this regulation's been overlooked, and is due for revision.
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Postby alonenow » Mon, 12 Mar 2012 8:34 pm

Dear fellow brothers/ sisters,

I was searching thru the web trying to find information on my situation and I found this very helpful thread. Could see the potential difficulties in marrying a WP/ex-WP holder here.

Here is my situation, hope some kind heart could enlighten me:

I'm a Singaporean man, aged 40 working in management of hedge funds. My monthly salary about SGD 12k to15k. I went thru divorce proceedings for the last two years and I'm divorced since July last year.

Thru the ordeal, (e.g. meeting the lawyers, negotiating and finalizing divorce) I met this girl who was working as a singer last October. She went back to China in Feb 2012.

Questions on the applicaton to Mom to ROM with her

1) Since she just went back to China. Are there any restrictions stopping her from entering to Singapore to ROM, e.g. understand there might be a period like 2 months ex-WP holder cannot enter into Singapore regardless of the reason. What would be the ideal period to hold/wait before appying?

2) Before she went back, she was on white card. Her company and her (and other singers) had some disputes over compensation. Her company was investgated by MoM and she was given a card white due to the investgation. Would this case, impact her chances of coming to Singapore if I apply to marry her here?

3) Even if I apply to marry her now, since she just got back. Should I wait for a period of time before applying? I'm not sure of the implications

4) I'm still staying in the house which I'm going to transfer to my ex-wife. Would this impact my papplication? Should I rent a place first to make the application easier?

5) Would it be eaiser (i.e. higher chances) if I engage a lawyer for my application?

Thanks in advance any kind soles out there.

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Postby alonenow » Thu, 22 Mar 2012 8:31 pm

BTW guys, the new form is called "Application for Permission to Marry a Singapore / Singapore PR"?

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Postby zzm9980 » Thu, 22 Mar 2012 9:38 pm

I'm not a Singaporean who has married a WP holder, but there was a very recent article I read about this where the Minister with this in his portfolio gave testimony about this. The questions were focused on how time permission to marry is denied, and why. The answer was something like ~85% of all requests are approved. There were two key factors that influenced the decision:

1) Your income and ability to support her, since it is assumed a WP holder won't be able to make a lot of money on their own. I think you have this covered, no problem.

2) The 'quality' of the WP holder, focusing on what their job/skills were. Is it something Singapore needs? Based on the high approval rate above, I can't see this being a big deal. I'll give you one area of concern though. And please don't take offense. You just mention she was a 'Singer'. Singing what, and where? If she was a "singer" that worked in a KTV, and the government even suspects there might have been 'vice' involved, that could count against you. If she sang at some Piano Bar or for some organization, I think you'd be completely fine.

I'm really not sure on your address and the divorce... I don't know if your current address would hurt your application, but a new address would definitely hurt it less.

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LTVP before and get WP but now resign and chance get LTVP

Postby Maria__argentty » Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:27 am

Hi, im WP holder but before that im holding LTVP. But after 1 month working i decide to resign because the company enviroment. This week i give my boss my resignation letter. My question is
1. Can i get chance approval ICA if im going to applying again LTVP?
2. Will they baned me to entering singapore because i only work month here?
3. Do ineed go back to my home contry first?and how long is good time i can come back visiting my husband here?
4. How long the proces canceling my WP?

Thanks in advance

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Postby alonenow » Mon, 26 Mar 2012 4:45 pm

Thanks for the answers brother. Yes, she was a Singer from KTV while in Singapore. How? I can't change that fact....

zzm9980 wrote:I'm not a Singaporean who has married a WP holder, but there was a very recent article I read about this where the Minister with this in his portfolio gave testimony about this. The questions were focused on how time permission to marry is denied, and why. The answer was something like ~85% of all requests are approved. There were two key factors that influenced the decision:

1) Your income and ability to support her, since it is assumed a WP holder won't be able to make a lot of money on their own. I think you have this covered, no problem.

2) The 'quality' of the WP holder, focusing on what their job/skills were. Is it something Singapore needs? Based on the high approval rate above, I can't see this being a big deal. I'll give you one area of concern though. And please don't take offense. You just mention she was a 'Singer'. Singing what, and where? If she was a "singer" that worked in a KTV, and the government even suspects there might have been 'vice' involved, that could count against you. If she sang at some Piano Bar or for some organization, I think you'd be completely fine.

I'm really not sure on your address and the divorce... I don't know if your current address would hurt your application, but a new address would definitely hurt it less.

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Postby Syar » Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:14 pm

COSTARCO wrote:Hi,

I'm as a PR in Singapore and my wife is work permit holder. Before we ROm in Singapore we already get Married Approval from MOM(our ROM date on 15/3/2010).

The problem is now my wife been pregnant, she due date on 1/9/2010, my wife work permit expiry date on 11/6/2010, is it have any problem when my wife renew her permit? Is it MOM will ban her and rejected her renewal?

Please help.. :shock:


Hi there.. After you get the approval, what happen to your wife's work permit? Being cancel/revoke or still valid?


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