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Post by jencrs » Mon, 12 Jun 2006 8:16 pm

Anonymous wrote:During training, the remuneration will range from $500 to $2,200 per month. On appointment as First Officer, the commencing salary will range from $3,400 to $4,425 per month.

Inclusive of salary and allowances, you can earn from $5,000 to $7,300 per month.
Just so everyone knows, these figures are not very accurate as far as SIA is concerned. I don't know what airline these figures are meant to reflect, because the remuneration from airline to airline can be very different.

There are also other things to consider like education, the phase of training one is going through, the fleet one is assigned to etc.

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Post by VT » Tue, 13 Jun 2006 9:21 pm

jencrs wrote:
Anonymous wrote:During training, the remuneration will range from $500 to $2,200 per month. On appointment as First Officer, the commencing salary will range from $3,400 to $4,425 per month.

Inclusive of salary and allowances, you can earn from $5,000 to $7,300 per month.
Just so everyone knows, these figures are not very accurate as far as SIA is concerned. I don't know what airline these figures are meant to reflect, because the remuneration from airline to airline can be very different.

There are also other things to consider like education, the phase of training one is going through, the fleet one is assigned to etc.
ya.. i agree with that.. Maybe it's within that range. Just like i heard from my friend who's friend is a trainee, he gets back 1000 a month during training.

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Post by jencrs » Wed, 14 Jun 2006 3:19 pm

A quick breakdown for those interested....

As an SIA cadet, S$400 for A level holders, about S$1000 for uni grads. Can't remember the pay for poly grads. That's for the training in seletar and jandakot, about a year and a half.

Then it's S$1900 for learjet ground school and actual learjet training in MCY. About S$2200 basic as a 2nd officer. S$3k-S$4k including allowances once on line.

A fresh 777 first officer takes home about an average of $7k-$8k. He can expect $6k in slow months and up to $10k on good months. Remember that's what an FO takes home, after CPF and all that stuff. The basic is about $5.5k.

A fresh 744 FO will generally take home about $2k more, but he spends less time at home. So there's a trade off.

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Post by redprada » Sun, 02 Sep 2007 5:42 pm

Hello, all of you seem to know a lot of things about aviation in Singapore. Actually, I really really want to be a pilot. But see, the problem I think I'm facing is that I'm a female? I never thought that they accepted females as commercial pilots. So this topic here gave me a lot of hope :) I'm 15 this year and since now I know that they accept females as commercial pilots, I'm very determined to take piloting as my career and I want to start now! :D I am taking my O levels next year but I don't know where I should go after that? I'm not sure if a JC or a Poly would help me better in becoming a pilot.

What I am thinking is that if I go to a JC, the chances of getting into a University would be much higher. It may up my chances in becoming a pilot because of higher qualification. If I'm really that lucky, I may get accepted into the Youth Flying Club as well.

And if I go to a Poly, I would study Aerospace Electronics or Aerospace Technology. This may also help me to become a pilot, right? But then again, the chance of getting into a Uni is much lower too. If I get accepted into the Youth Flying Club as well, then I'm really in a lucky streak la.

So what do you guys suggest? Should I go to a Poly or a JC? As I'm 15 and there may still be a long way to become a pilot, I hope to start planning from now before its too late. Please give me your advice! Thanks a lot!

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Post by visitor » Sat, 29 Sep 2007 2:23 pm

Hi Redprada,

just do your best and if you qualify for the JC - Uni route, go for it. There is quite a fair mix of unigraduates and poly graduates among pilots, coming from very varied academic backgrounds.

It would be good to get into Youth Flying Club and get your hands on flying a plane. Once you've flown a plane, it'll never be the same again :)

You could also get your hands on microsoft flight sim and learn to fly it seriously. That's a good way to build up your knowledge about aviation.

If you happen to come to Perth for a holiday, remember to drop by Jandakot for a joyride on one of the Cessnas... it's fun, and not many people get to sit on a light aircraft.

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Post by kelvinwangkewen » Sat, 29 Sep 2007 3:31 pm

Question!!

If one passes the computer test, interview panel, and medical review for SIA, does it mean that he is in for the course already?

Even though one may be selected for the cadet pilot course, what is the drop-out/"Kena-chop"/"out-of-course" rate? Is it just as high as the RSAF pilot course?

What is the exact stages after Computer Test, interview panel, medical review? I suppose the whole training will take about 2 years?

Ok.. I think it's questions...

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Post by 12345 » Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11:23 pm

Yeah...i'm curious as well. How does the interview process for cadet pilot go about? Do they eliminate candidates like they do for the cabin crews? :)

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Post by jencrs » Sun, 30 Sep 2007 8:01 am

kelvinwangkewen wrote:Question!!

If one passes the computer test, interview panel, and medical review for SIA, does it mean that he is in for the course already?

Even though one may be selected for the cadet pilot course, what is the drop-out/"Kena-chop"/"out-of-course" rate? Is it just as high as the RSAF pilot course?

What is the exact stages after Computer Test, interview panel, medical review? I suppose the whole training will take about 2 years?

Ok.. I think it's questions...
1) No, cuz SIA still has right of refusal. E.g. the SIA doctor may have cleared you, but SIA can still reject you based on your medical history.
2) Not as high. Average of about 1 out of 5/6 will get chopped.
3) Length of training is about 2.5 years for SIA and cargo, a little less for Silkair.

If you want to know more about the interview process, I've written something out some time ago. Some of the stuff is a little outdated, but most should still be relevant.

If Plavt doesn't mind.......

Go to www.pprune.org and search for thread started by Knightwhosays_NI, the nick I use there. There should be 2 long threads, with the info you need.

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Post by jencrs » Sun, 30 Sep 2007 8:03 am

12345 wrote:Yeah...i'm curious as well. How does the interview process for cadet pilot go about? Do they eliminate candidates like they do for the cabin crews? :)
They certainly do. On top of that, the possibility of elimination continues through the entire training period. That's a loooong time to be stressed.

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Post by visitor » Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:22 am

yeah, statistically, about 20% of cadets get chopped, and from observation, most get terminated during the ground school phase and the Jandakot phase. Very few get terminated in the advanced stages.

Lots of 'tests' that you have to go through right from the multitude of papers that you need to study for in a short amount of time in Seletar, to the solo check in Jandakot, progress checks, CPL flight tests, type rating exams, base checks, line checks... be prepared to work hard.

Also, be prepared to be under training for around 3 years ++ these days.

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Post by kelvinwangkewen » Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:39 am

they really test you "inside-out" before they award u your wings man!
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Post by Plavt » Tue, 02 Oct 2007 2:42 pm

jencrs wrote:If Plavt doesn't mind.......

Go to www.pprune.org and search for thread started by Knightwhosays_NI, the nick I use there. There should be 2 long threads, with the info you need.
No problem; posting links is fine so long as it is none relating to the ST or their affiliates. :wink: :D
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Post by Lilyanz » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 4:35 pm

anybody here flew a380.. share expriences!!!

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Post by 99heyho » Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:05 pm

do i have to be 26 before applying and starting out as a cadet pilot with SIA?

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Post by mantaro43 » Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:56 pm

Is there a minimum age to be a pilot?
The minimum age is laid down in the requirements for the issue of a professional pilots licence found in SASP2. However Singaporeans who wish to enter the profession as an Airline Pilot will have to be at least 26 years of age at the point of application. This is a restriction imposed on Singaporeans by the Government to ensure the Air Force has its ready pool of applicants amongst our limited talent pool. This does not apply if you are not a Singaporean.

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