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Postby neutral-neutral » Tue, 06 Mar 2007 8:42 pm

iamdruglord wrote:I dont know much about colustrum but

Just a GENERAL point to clarify for all sort of products,

Having a lot of paper published = High QUANTITY but not necessarily high QUALITY

Having many trials but : what kind of trials ? Sponsored trials ? RCT ? We have to question the type of trials

No offence intended but I feel that it's necessary to clarify some ambiguity.

Cheers


I dun want to go to the extend of find the thousands over research papers to prove to you anything no point (would you go and take lab test, find the source of the vege and meat you eat to ensure they are safe?)... anyway i just want to share, i m a user and my friends are users of colostrum and it did good to us. This is the key part....

Just recently, my friend went for an independent lab medical test and discovered his cholesterol and blood glucose level dropped into by 1/2... if anyone wants i dun mind asking him to show you his recent report by a his private doctor.

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Postby Chensm » Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:24 am

keith425 wrote:
GT&F Milk Powder.


hmm, isn't ingestion of chromium over a long period linked to cancer or DNA mutation? or does new research show otherwise?

any good supplements for diabetics? Especially for elders in the late 50's.


Do watch what you take and make sure you do research well.. cant hurt to be a bit skeptical even though products have claims, testimonials, clinical evidence, etc... most likely if something sounds too good to be true, it is. while there are many good products out there, there many that just burn a whole in your pocket, or worse, give you unwanted side-effects.

Better yet, go to a doctor/professional nutritionist. After all health isn't something we'd try our luck with.

just my $.02 ...

cheers.


Cancer or DNA mutation! I never heard of that before. According to the evaluation report on USA Estimated Safe and Adequate Daily Dietary Intakes (US ESADDI) established by the US Environment Protection Agency, daily intake of chromium of not more than 350 times of the recommended dosage (200mcg) is within the safety limits. Safety limits of some other minerals, such as zinc, manganese, selenium etc, are only around 2 to 7 times of the daily intake.

http://www.diabetesmilkpowder.com/Safety%20Taking%20of%20GTF.htm

And the product have gone through a detail verification of Singapore's AVA and approved by Singapore's AVA after a long period of test.

Drug research and registeration take many years and multimillion of investment before we can launch it to the market.

The small biotechnology company strategy is to register as dietery supplement first and launch it to the market to earn the money for further research and register as drug prescibed by doctor to avoid being swallow by cash rich western pharmauceutical company. The product can benefited more people if able to launch to market fast rather than wait for approval to launch as drug. We really appreciated Singapore's AVA effort in supporting biotechnology and pharmauceutical research company. Their professional and fast reaction are much appreciated.

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Postby keith425 » Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:05 am

I'll bite this one because of your excellent response and youre obviously trying hard to sell something.

Cancer or DNA mutation! I never heard of that before.

Well now you have. :shock: Safety of chromium in various forms such as trivalent chromium and chromium picolinate has been questioned several times for many years! Don't know if you're in denial or really don't know. Either way, it makes you look less credible. I'd rather have you cite your sources and educate me than say you heard nothing of it. It was a question, after all!

And if you read my post again, I said:
or does new research show otherwise?

Appreciate a more credible source than your own website, though. No references to sources there. And there are conflicting studies about chromium safety out there. Oh and in case you didnt notice, the link 'Safety of Taking GTF' still points to 'C:\Documents and Settings\...' Did you add that after reading the posts on this board? :roll:
Drug research and registeration take many years and multimillion of investment before we can launch it to the market.

LOL at 'multimillion of investment'. Yet your website has bad grammar,a broken link and google ads on it! Makes you look very credible indeed. :roll:

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Postby Chensm » Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:20 pm

keith425 wrote:I'll bite this one because of your excellent response and youre obviously trying hard to sell something.

Cancer or DNA mutation! I never heard of that before.

Well now you have. :shock: Safety of chromium in various forms such as trivalent chromium and chromium picolinate has been questioned several times for many years! Don't know if you're in denial or really don't know. Either way, it makes you look less credible. I'd rather have you cite your sources and educate me than say you heard nothing of it. It was a question, after all!

And if you read my post again, I said:
or does new research show otherwise?

Appreciate a more credible source than your own website, though. No references to sources there. And there are conflicting studies about chromium safety out there.

That is what I imply what you have ommited. You never quote your source. I would be much appreciated if you able to quote your source as well.

My source from US Environment Protection Agency indicated above and Singapore's AVA.

Chromium picolinate! Maybe, but our ingredient is Chromium chloride.


Oh and in case you didnt notice, the link 'Safety of Taking GTF' still points to 'C:\Documents and Settings\...' Did you add that after reading the posts on this board? :roll:
Drug research and registeration take many years and multimillion of investment before we can launch it to the market.

LOL at 'multimillion of investment'. Yet your website has bad grammar,a broken link and google ads on it! Makes you look very credible indeed. :roll:


That is what I imply what you have ommited. You never quote your source. I would be much appreciated if you able to quote your source as well.

My source from US Environment Protection Agency indicated above and Singapore's AVA.

Chromium picolinate! Maybe, but our ingredient is Chromium chloride.

I am just an independent distributor who try to support an Asia's biotechnology company that have spend multimillion of investment in research to help patient. Venture capital and shareholder of biotechnology company have their own priority when allocating their limited resource whether in research or marketing.

You try to discredit myself, Singapore's AVA. But you never mentioned the side effect of drug.
http://www.diabetesmilkpowder.com/Drug%20for%20Diabetes.htm

Diabetic who take drug on a long term basis will have kidney problem
http://netinc.net.my/health/k/004.htm yet you silent on this and discredit a product that has been approved by Singapore's AVA. It look like you representing established western pharmauceutical company rather than try to take care the welfare of diabetic

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Re: DIABETES

Postby septemberrr » Sun, 01 Apr 2007 11:48 am

Shouldn't the best consultant be your doctor?

Virgo wrote:any good supplements for diabetics? Especially for elders in the late 50's.

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Postby ksl » Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:45 pm

septemberrr wrote:Shouldn't the best consultant be your doctor?

Virgo wrote:any good supplements for diabetics? Especially for elders in the late 50's.

Of course not! Doctors are general practioners, very basic and not specialised, although they could refer him to a consultant, who does specialise!

It would be more beneficial to control the blood sugar spikes, by chosing a natural product, that does break down sugar and vinegar does that by attacking sugar and releasing it slowly into the blood stream. Control by GL low Glycemic foods and glycemic loads, will help not only ill people, but those who are close to becoming diatbetics.

Reduce blood sugar is the key!

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Postby jes23 » Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:19 am

Doctors recommend my future MIL to take proflavanol from Usana hence I bought it for my dad who has diabetes too

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Postby Siowkf » Wed, 24 Sep 2008 4:28 pm

Chensm wrote:
keith425 wrote:I'll bite this one because of your excellent response and youre obviously trying hard to sell something.

Cancer or DNA mutation! I never heard of that before.

Well now you have. :shock: Safety of chromium in various forms such as trivalent chromium and chromium picolinate has been questioned several times for many years! Don't know if you're in denial or really don't know. Either way, it makes you look less credible. I'd rather have you cite your sources and educate me than say you heard nothing of it. It was a question, after all!

And if you read my post again, I said:
or does new research show otherwise?

Appreciate a more credible source than your own website, though. No references to sources there. And there are conflicting studies about chromium safety out there.

That is what I imply what you have ommited. You never quote your source. I would be much appreciated if you able to quote your source as well.

My source from US Environment Protection Agency indicated above and Singapore's AVA.

Chromium picolinate! Maybe, but our ingredient is Chromium chloride.


Oh and in case you didnt notice, the link 'Safety of Taking GTF' still points to 'C:\Documents and Settings\...' Did you add that after reading the posts on this board? :roll:
Drug research and registeration take many years and multimillion of investment before we can launch it to the market.

LOL at 'multimillion of investment'. Yet your website has bad grammar,a broken link and google ads on it! Makes you look very credible indeed. :roll:


That is what I imply what you have ommited. You never quote your source. I would be much appreciated if you able to quote your source as well.

My source from US Environment Protection Agency indicated above and Singapore's AVA.

Chromium picolinate! Maybe, but our ingredient is Chromium chloride.

I am just an independent distributor who try to support an Asia's biotechnology company that have spend multimillion of investment in research to help patient. Venture capital and shareholder of biotechnology company have their own priority when allocating their limited resource whether in research or marketing.

You try to discredit myself, Singapore's AVA. But you never mentioned the side effect of drug.
http://www.diabetesmilkpowder.com/Drug%20for%20Diabetes.htm

Diabetic who take drug on a long term basis will have kidney problem
http://netinc.net.my/health/k/004.htm yet you silent on this and discredit a product that has been approved by Singapore's AVA. It look like you representing established western pharmauceutical company rather than try to take care the welfare of diabetic


I have consumed GT&F Milk Powder and it really lower my blood glucose level. However, my heart beat are constantly higher than it used to be. My doctor advised that if the situation persist. My might get heart attact or stroke.

It will be died faster if I get heart attact or stroke rather than I have disbetes. Thus, I stop consuming the product now as I rather have diabetes than have heart attact or stroke. I ask my friend who recommended such product to me and he said his heart beat also faster after consuming such product.

Shouldn't the manufacturer or the authority responsible to ensure the product safe before it release to the market?

Hope it would not become another "China Milk" case


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