My father is a PR and I am on a student Pass and his race is different from mine on the cards

[anuragroy]

For context, my family and I have been living in Singapore from 2008 and my father is a PR and I am on a student Pass. I have been studying here since 2008, did my bachelors in NTU, masters in NUS and will be working in a few months.

So my father is a PR and his race is "Bengali" on the IC and the nationality is "Indian", but we are indians basically and are from india, so the race should be "Indian" as per my knowledge. and not "Bengali" which i think refers to people from Bangladesh.

I will be applying for PR later when i start working, and I have noticed that when i start the application on ICA website my race is shown as "Indian" and cant change it. I am wondering if I should make my dad to put in the request to change his race through the government form, such that it doesnt harm my application when i apply for PR? Does that make sense? since ofcourse singapore is very big on racial quota

[digitalfruits18]

Yes, I think your father will need to change the IC particulars, but they will ask for evidence. Not sure what you will be able to provide.

[Wd40]

For context, my family and I have been living in Singapore from 2008 and my father is a PR and I am on a student Pass. I have been studying here since 2008, did my bachelors in NTU, masters in NUS and will be working in a few months.

So my father is a PR and his race is "Bengali" on the IC and the nationality is "Indian", but we are indians basically and are from india, so the race should be "Indian" as per my knowledge. and not "Bengali" which i think refers to people from Bangladesh.

I will be applying for PR later when i start working, and I have noticed that when i start the application on ICA website my race is shown as "Indian" and cant change it. I am wondering if I should make my dad to put in the request to change his race through the government form, such that it doesnt harm my application when i apply for PR? Does that make sense? since ofcourse singapore is very big on racial quota

Your credentials are top notch, you will easily get the PR.

I am curious, in school were you like top notch in academics? I am interested to know how you made it to NTU as a foreigner? Is the bar very high?

[anuragroy]

For context, my family and I have been living in Singapore from 2008 and my father is a PR and I am on a student Pass. I have been studying here since 2008, did my bachelors in NTU, masters in NUS and will be working in a few months.

So my father is a PR and his race is "Bengali" on the IC and the nationality is "Indian", but we are indians basically and are from india, so the race should be "Indian" as per my knowledge. and not "Bengali" which i think refers to people from Bangladesh.

I will be applying for PR later when i start working, and I have noticed that when i start the application on ICA website my race is shown as "Indian" and cant change it. I am wondering if I should make my dad to put in the request to change his race through the government form, such that it doesnt harm my application when i apply for PR? Does that make sense? since ofcourse singapore is very big on racial quota

Your credentials are top notch, you will easily get the PR.

I am curious, in school were you like top notch in academics? I am interested to know how you made it to NTU as a foreigner? Is the bar very high?

Yea I studied a lot in school haha, and i did the International Baccalurate Program in an International School in Singapore instead of A-levels here. Yeap the bar was quite high for bacherlors in NTU in 2019, and for my masters in NUS 2024, and im guessing the bar has kept on going higher.

[anuragroy]

Yes, I think your father will need to change the IC particulars, but they will ask for evidence. Not sure what you will be able to provide.

I think he is able to provide his birth certificate, but not sure if HIS parents birth certificates even exist. Lets see I guess

[sundaymorningstaple]

@anuragroy
Questions
When did your father receive his PR?

Were you still in secondary school (or earlier)?

Is your mother also a PR?

You mention you will be going to work in a few months? Is the Job already agreed and the relevant pass been approved? IF you were to apply for PR it could take up to a year or longer to be approved. Do you have an Employment Pass or S pass application already approved? If neither you could find you DON'T have any job prospects at all.

You father obviously was trying to subvert the Government Military policy by keeping you on a student visa but now it come back to possibly bite you in the arse. You will only have your father to blame.

viewtopic.php?t=61423#p402802

I would strongly suggest you use our archives specifically in the Strictly Speaking subforum on this forum. Here is a link to a thread started by a poster and I and several others with strong interests on this topic. Also any thread where the poster 'Mad Scientist' will also be HIGHLY worth reading. He and I were the gurus of this topic along with 'Kraikk' who posted the initial comment on the linked thread. There are dozens upon dozens of threads in the Strictly Speaking forum. Including ones by myself on my former employers' son (who's father and PR mother decided to not get him PR but did get his daughter PR many years ago when they started school. The son went to International Schools on a Student Visas. Somewhere in the archives there I have recounted this on several occasions. (oh, the thread I linked to was started in 2007).

SMS - Moderator

[anuragroy]

@anuragroy
Questions
When did your father receive his PR?

Were you still in secondary school (or earlier)?

Is your mother also a PR?

You mention you will be going to work in a few months? Is the Job already agreed and the relevant pass been approved? IF you were to apply for PR it could take up to a year or longer to be approved. Do you have an Employment Pass or S pass application already approved? If neither you could find you DON'T have any job prospects at all.

You father obviously was trying to subvert the Government Military policy by keeping you on a student visa but now it come back to possibly bite you in the arse. You will only have your father to blame.

viewtopic.php?t=61423#p402802

I would strongly suggest you use our archives specifically in the Strictly Speaking subforum on this forum. Here is a link to a thread started by a poster and I and several others with strong interests on this topic. Also any thread where the poster 'Mad Scientist' will also be HIGHLY worth reading. He and I were the gurus of this topic along with 'Kraikk' who posted the initial comment on the linked thread. There are dozens upon dozens of threads in the Strictly Speaking forum. Including ones by myself on my former employers' son (who's father and PR mother decided to not get him PR but did get his daughter PR many years ago when they started school. The son went to International Schools on a Student Visas. Somewhere in the archives there I have recounted this on several occasions. (oh, the thread I linked to was started in 2007).

SMS - Moderator

You need to relax haha. My father is a smart man, he was not trying to subvert making me serve National Service, I was fully ready to serve it, and we had applied for PR for myself back in like 2015-16 twice but got rejected.

Apart from that I am on a Government scholarship of a 6 year bond from NTU and MOE so rest assured I will definitely be able to get a job, as I have Eligibility Letter for Employment Pass that ignores the strict requirements since im on a government bond.

I came here to ask whether the race discrepancy affects the PR application but i think its more individual based since im applying under the working scheme and race is already "indian", so if you have any thoughts about that please do share haha, otherwise dont be rude about my parents and no my mother is not a PR, my dad got his PR when he first started working in 2008.

[smoulder]

Looking though the time lines, you were born well before 2008 which is when your father alone applied for PR. Without your mother or you in the application. Regardless what your father's actual intentions were - chances are that ICA will view it in one way. The one that SMS stated.

So I believe the answer is yes, you can probably try your luck by changing race, but most likely you will be spinning your wheels and not getting anywhere.

[anuragroy]

Looking though the time lines, you were born well before 2008 which is when your father alone applied for PR. Without your mother or you in the application. Regardless what your father's actual intentions were - chances are that ICA will view it in one way. The one that SMS stated.

So I believe the answer is yes, you can probably try your luck by changing race, but most likely you will be spinning your wheels and not getting anywhere.

Sure sure understood but I’m telling you we had applied PR for me LOL when I was a kid, and I’m sure ICA can see that.

Also it’s more about not changing my race , my race is Indian haha, my dad s race is listed as another one and thinking it about asking to switch to Indian!

[jalanjalan]

Sure sure understood but I’m telling you we had applied PR for me LOL when I was a kid, and I’m sure ICA can see that.

Yep, ICA never forgets. That's kind of the point of the comments you received. I second the advice to read past threads on the topic.
As for race category, you can't change it, so ignore it. It is what it is.
Meanwhile, ask yourself what benefit you bring to Singapore as a PR, and work towards that so you have the best chance applying on your own merits. And always have a plan B just in case.

[Wd40]

Apart from that I am on a Government scholarship of a 6 year bond from NTU and MOE so rest assured I will definitely be able to get a job, as I have Eligibility Letter for Employment Pass that ignores the strict requirements since im on a government bond.

This is really useful information and I didn't know it, that if you are on the govt scholarship bond, then EP is kind of automatic. You just need to find a job, but that shouldn't be a problem right if the employer knows that EP will come through easily and you studied in NTU/NUS.

So I see how Singapore attracts the best of the best people and gives them a red carpet.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Let us know how it goes.....