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Citizenship rejected - Should my parent reapply?

Post by SGfan_2020 » Sat, 03 Aug 2024 12:47 pm

Hi guys,

I want to ask on behalf of my parent whose spouse is SC but is currently PR looking to convert to SC. There was a mistake in the last application as it was supposed to be sponsored application by SC spouse but she applied under single applicant. The application was not withdrawn since the fee was paid.

Now the outcome of the application is rejection and the reply was she can reapply if circumstances change. Does it mean she can just submit again under SC spouse sponsorship or are there other factors that she should consider as well? Her profile as follows:

Race: Chinese PRC
Age: 58
Occupation: Housemaker

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Re: Citizenship rejected - Should my parent reapply?

Post by NYY1 » Sat, 03 Aug 2024 6:22 pm

How old is your parent's spouse and does he work?

Spouse of a SC tends to have a high success rate. However, knowing the success rate by age bucket is probably the key factor here. For example, Aged Parent of a SC does not have a very high success rate (the relationship is different from Spouse of a SC but some of the same challenges exist).

See if others have any additional thoughts. Your parent can certainly reapply, as it can't hurt. Nevertheless, the outcome may still be a jump ball.

Best of luck and regards.

https://www.mha.gov.sg/mediaroom/parlia ... ree-years/

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Re: Citizenship rejected - Should my parent reapply?

Post by SGfan_2020 » Sat, 03 Aug 2024 7:58 pm

NYY1 wrote:
Sat, 03 Aug 2024 6:22 pm
How old is your parent's spouse and does he work?

Spouse of a SC tends to have a high success rate. However, knowing the success rate by age bucket is probably the key factor here. For example, Aged Parent of a SC does not have a very high success rate (the relationship is different from Spouse of a SC but some of the same challenges exist).

See if others have any additional thoughts. Your parent can certainly reapply, as it can't hurt. Nevertheless, the outcome may still be a jump ball.

Best of luck and regards.

https://www.mha.gov.sg/mediaroom/parlia ... ree-years/
Thank you NYY1 for the advice. Yes my parent's spouse still works and is in his 60s. His salary is decent since he works in IT.

I am wondering if the CPF of my PR parent also played a role in the rejection. She did not work a lot as a housemaker over the years so the CPF balance is meagre.

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Re: Citizenship rejected - Should my parent reapply?

Post by Addadude » Mon, 05 Aug 2024 9:38 am

Yes, they should definitely reapply. Just make sure it is under the sponsorship of the SC husband. In such circumstance, there is a very high chance of success. (As long as they have been married for a fair number of years to minimise any suspicion of 'marriage of convenience'...)
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Re: Citizenship rejected - Should my parent reapply?

Post by SGfan_2020 » Mon, 05 Aug 2024 10:58 am

Addadude wrote:
Mon, 05 Aug 2024 9:38 am
Yes, they should definitely reapply. Just make sure it is under the sponsorship of the SC husband. In such circumstance, there is a very high chance of success. (As long as they have been married for a fair number of years to minimise any suspicion of 'marriage of convenience'...)
Yeah I was telling my parents that yesterday to maybe reapply under sponsorship. Then my parents told me that they wrote to ICA before about the error in application and ICA did not say they should reapply and just rejected the application. Does that mean even if my parents reapply under SC sponsorship the outcome would be the same?

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Re: Citizenship rejected - Should my parent reapply?

Post by Addadude » Tue, 06 Aug 2024 11:52 am

SGfan_2020 wrote:
Mon, 05 Aug 2024 10:58 am
Yeah I was telling my parents that yesterday to maybe reapply under sponsorship. Then my parents told me that they wrote to ICA before about the error in application and ICA did not say they should reapply and just rejected the application. Does that mean even if my parents reapply under SC sponsorship the outcome would be the same?
Writing to ICA about the error in your initial application wouldn't have made any difference. They would have continued to evaluate the application based on its original contents. So I would suggest waiting a while and then reapplying via the sponsorship route. Note that all communication with ICA will then be via the sponsor.
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Re: Citizenship rejected - Should my parent reapply?

Post by SGfan_2020 » Tue, 06 Aug 2024 12:05 pm

Addadude wrote:
Tue, 06 Aug 2024 11:52 am
SGfan_2020 wrote:
Mon, 05 Aug 2024 10:58 am
Yeah I was telling my parents that yesterday to maybe reapply under sponsorship. Then my parents told me that they wrote to ICA before about the error in application and ICA did not say they should reapply and just rejected the application. Does that mean even if my parents reapply under SC sponsorship the outcome would be the same?
Writing to ICA about the error in your initial application wouldn't have made any difference. They would have continued to evaluate the application based on its original contents. So I would suggest waiting a while and then reapplying via the sponsorship route. Note that all communication with ICA will then be via the sponsor.
I see, I will let my parents know and let them decide. Thank you for your advice!

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Re: Citizenship rejected - Should my parent reapply?

Post by NYY1 » Tue, 06 Aug 2024 12:25 pm

I don't think we can conclude what ICA did or did not do. If you believe some prior posts, ICA has called people and told them to switch schemes before. Sounds kind of silly, but I guess it has to do with following protocol and approving what fits under each scheme / checking enough boxes.

Did the application just get processed as a single with no current salary / little savings? Or did they take a look at everything that would have applied under a Spouse of SC application (they should know the applicant-spouse relationship)?

There's really no harm in re-applying (vs guessing what happened or what will happen if applying again). Personally, I think it could go either way here (not that I am the one deciding).

Anyways, like you said, let them decide. Best of luck.

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Re: Citizenship rejected - Should my parent reapply?

Post by singaporeflyer » Wed, 07 Aug 2024 12:47 am

SGfan_2020 wrote:
Sat, 03 Aug 2024 7:58 pm
NYY1 wrote:
Sat, 03 Aug 2024 6:22 pm
How old is your parent's spouse and does he work?

Spouse of a SC tends to have a high success rate. However, knowing the success rate by age bucket is probably the key factor here. For example, Aged Parent of a SC does not have a very high success rate (the relationship is different from Spouse of a SC but some of the same challenges exist).

See if others have any additional thoughts. Your parent can certainly reapply, as it can't hurt. Nevertheless, the outcome may still be a jump ball.

Best of luck and regards.

https://www.mha.gov.sg/mediaroom/parlia ... ree-years/
Thank you NYY1 for the advice. Yes my parent's spouse still works and is in his 60s. His salary is decent since he works in IT.

I am wondering if the CPF of my PR parent also played a role in the rejection. She did not work a lot as a housemaker over the years so the CPF balance is meagre.
How long was he/she working in SG as PR?

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Re: Citizenship rejected - Should my parent reapply?

Post by SGfan_2020 » Wed, 07 Aug 2024 10:09 am

singaporeflyer wrote:
Wed, 07 Aug 2024 12:47 am
SGfan_2020 wrote:
Sat, 03 Aug 2024 7:58 pm
NYY1 wrote:
Sat, 03 Aug 2024 6:22 pm
How old is your parent's spouse and does he work?

Spouse of a SC tends to have a high success rate. However, knowing the success rate by age bucket is probably the key factor here. For example, Aged Parent of a SC does not have a very high success rate (the relationship is different from Spouse of a SC but some of the same challenges exist).

See if others have any additional thoughts. Your parent can certainly reapply, as it can't hurt. Nevertheless, the outcome may still be a jump ball.

Best of luck and regards.

https://www.mha.gov.sg/mediaroom/parlia ... ree-years/
Thank you NYY1 for the advice. Yes my parent's spouse still works and is in his 60s. His salary is decent since he works in IT.

I am wondering if the CPF of my PR parent also played a role in the rejection. She did not work a lot as a housemaker over the years so the CPF balance is meagre.
How long was he/she working in SG as PR?
She worked on and off. I believe it was no more than 2-3 years.

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Re: Citizenship rejected - Should my parent reapply?

Post by SGfan_2020 » Thu, 08 Aug 2024 8:58 am

singaporeflyer wrote:
Wed, 07 Aug 2024 12:47 am
SGfan_2020 wrote:
Sat, 03 Aug 2024 7:58 pm
NYY1 wrote:
Sat, 03 Aug 2024 6:22 pm
How old is your parent's spouse and does he work?

Spouse of a SC tends to have a high success rate. However, knowing the success rate by age bucket is probably the key factor here. For example, Aged Parent of a SC does not have a very high success rate (the relationship is different from Spouse of a SC but some of the same challenges exist).

See if others have any additional thoughts. Your parent can certainly reapply, as it can't hurt. Nevertheless, the outcome may still be a jump ball.

Best of luck and regards.

https://www.mha.gov.sg/mediaroom/parlia ... ree-years/
Thank you NYY1 for the advice. Yes my parent's spouse still works and is in his 60s. His salary is decent since he works in IT.

I am wondering if the CPF of my PR parent also played a role in the rejection. She did not work a lot as a housemaker over the years so the CPF balance is meagre.
How long was he/she working in SG as PR?
Based on her situation, in your expertise is it worthwhile for her to reapply under sponsorship? What are the likelihood of success? Thanks.

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Re: Citizenship rejected - Should my parent reapply?

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 08 Aug 2024 11:12 am

SGfan_2020 wrote:
Thu, 08 Aug 2024 8:58 am
singaporeflyer wrote:
Wed, 07 Aug 2024 12:47 am
SGfan_2020 wrote:
Sat, 03 Aug 2024 7:58 pm


Thank you NYY1 for the advice. Yes my parent's spouse still works and is in his 60s. His salary is decent since he works in IT.

I am wondering if the CPF of my PR parent also played a role in the rejection. She did not work a lot as a housemaker over the years so the CPF balance is meagre.
How long was he/she working in SG as PR?
Based on her situation, in your expertise is it worthwhile for her to reapply under sponsorship? What are the likelihood of success? Thanks.
You can surely apply under sponsorship 75%-25% chance. Not 100% because of the age factor? Apart from that most of it is OK.

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Re: Citizenship rejected - Should my parent reapply?

Post by SGfan_2020 » Thu, 08 Aug 2024 11:24 am

singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 08 Aug 2024 11:12 am
SGfan_2020 wrote:
Thu, 08 Aug 2024 8:58 am
singaporeflyer wrote:
Wed, 07 Aug 2024 12:47 am


How long was he/she working in SG as PR?
Based on her situation, in your expertise is it worthwhile for her to reapply under sponsorship? What are the likelihood of success? Thanks.
You can surely apply under sponsorship 75%-25% chance. Not 100% because of the age factor? Apart from that most of it is OK.
Cool, thanks for your input. :D

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