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PR Chance 2024 - Sponsored by SPR

Post by ChitoOctto » Sat, 04 May 2024 4:39 pm

Hi guys, I am new to this forum and would like to get advice for my SPR application. I am married to a Malaysian Chinese (SPR) and my wife is currently pregnant for 5 months. My PR application is applied through family scheme and still pending.

PR Application Date: Nov 2022
PR Status: Pending

Sponsor Profile (My Wife):
Nationality: Malaysian
Race: Chinese
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married since Oct 2022
Degree: Bachelor of Commerce (Australia uni, but studied in SG PSB Academy)
Years in SG: 11 Years++
Years of Work Exp: 7 Years++
Salary: 42k + AWS + Variable.
Occupation: Senior Program Administrator
Pass Type: SPR

Applicant Profile (Me):
Nationality: Myanmar
Race: Burmese
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married since Oct 2022
Degree: Bachelor of Engineering (UK uni, but studied in SG PSB Academy)
Years in SG: 10 Years++
Years of Work Exp: 7 Years++
Salary: 90k + AWS + Variable.
Occupation: Assistant Manager (Engineering)
Pass Type: EP
Other info: Previous PR application under PTS was rejected in 4 months on Jun 2021. During the point of application, I was on SPASS.


Q1: What is my chance to get SPR approved?

Q2: Once my SPR is approved, we are planning to apply Singapore Citizenship for all 3 of us together as a family. Since my wife has been PR for 3 years, do we still have to wait extra 2 years after my PR approval, to apply for Singapore Citizenship? She will be the main applicant for the SC application.

Q3: Does our child have to get PR first before able to apply for SC as well?

Q4: Shall I inform to ICA that my wife is pregnant to a boy? Will this increase or speed up the approval?

Q5: Will converting my EP to LTVP, decrease the approval rate?

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Re: PR Chance 2024 - Sponsored by SPR

Post by singaporeflyer » Sat, 04 May 2024 5:49 pm

ChitoOctto wrote:
Sat, 04 May 2024 4:39 pm
Hi guys, I am new to this forum and would like to get advice for my SPR application. I am married to a Malaysian Chinese (SPR) and my wife is currently pregnant for 5 months. My PR application is applied through family scheme and still pending.

PR Application Date: Nov 2022
PR Status: Pending

Sponsor Profile (My Wife):
Nationality: Malaysian
Race: Chinese
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married since Oct 2022
Degree: Bachelor of Commerce (Australia uni, but studied in SG PSB Academy)
Years in SG: 11 Years++
Years of Work Exp: 7 Years++
Salary: 42k + AWS + Variable.
Occupation: Senior Program Administrator
Pass Type: SPR

Applicant Profile (Me):
Nationality: Myanmar
Race: Burmese
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married since Oct 2022
Degree: Bachelor of Engineering (UK uni, but studied in SG PSB Academy)
Years in SG: 10 Years++
Years of Work Exp: 7 Years++
Salary: 90k + AWS + Variable.
Occupation: Assistant Manager (Engineering)
Pass Type: EP
Other info: Previous PR application under PTS was rejected in 4 months on Jun 2021. During the point of application, I was on SPASS.


Q1: What is my chance to get SPR approved?

Q2: Once my SPR is approved, we are planning to apply Singapore Citizenship for all 3 of us together as a family. Since my wife has been PR for 3 years, do we still have to wait extra 2 years after my PR approval, to apply for Singapore Citizenship? She will be the main applicant for the SC application.

Q3: Does our child have to get PR first before able to apply for SC as well?

Q4: Shall I inform to ICA that my wife is pregnant to a boy? Will this increase or speed up the approval?

Q5: Will converting my EP to LTVP, decrease the approval rate?

Chances of your PR getting approved this attempt may be low. Sponsor's salary may be an issue.
You need to be married for longer
You can apply for SC with her only after you are a PR for 2 years
She and the kid (non PR) can apply for SC as long she has been a PR for 2 years
Update pregnancy details to ICA will not have any impact on the application

I feel you may need another 2-3 years for you to get your PR.

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Re: PR Chance 2024 - Sponsored by SPR

Post by MOCHS » Sun, 05 May 2024 11:39 am

I agree that sponsor’s salary is a little low even though sponsor is M’sian Chinese.

You simply applied too soon after the wedding. Married in Oct 2022 and then apply for PR in Nov 2022 signals to ICA you married just for the PR even though the marriage is genuine. Applying after 2-3 years of marriage is better to show ICA that the union is stable.

Pregnancy means nothing until the child is born and birth cert is on-hand because touchwood, things can happen.

Better remain on EP if your company allows it.

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Re: PR Chance 2024 - Sponsored by SPR

Post by NYY1 » Sun, 05 May 2024 2:03 pm

On the positive side, if they wanted to reject the application due to short time between marriage and applying, I'm sure they could have done so already.

Of course, time pending doesn't mean that the application will ultimately be successful. Additionally, spouse of PR may come behind spouse of SC in the pecking order (all else the same).

It may come down to who else is in the O bucket at this point in time. I have also wondered whether the O bucket is kept very diverse; a lot of different profiles get through from time to time (and not everyone that would appear to have some of the integration factors gets through).

Anyways, good luck.

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Re: PR Chance 2024 - Sponsored by SPR

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 07 May 2024 10:49 am

MOCHS wrote:
Sun, 05 May 2024 11:39 am
I agree that sponsor’s salary is a little low even though sponsor is M’sian Chinese.

You simply applied too soon after the wedding. Married in Oct 2022 and then apply for PR in Nov 2022 signals to ICA you married just for the PR even though the marriage is genuine. Applying after 2-3 years of marriage is better to show ICA that the union is stable.

Pregnancy means nothing until the child is born and birth cert is on-hand because touchwood, things can happen.

Better remain on EP if your company allows it.
@MOCHSI saw this yesterday and I wanted to write much the same, but thought my barnyard English would not come across with the correct sentiment. Your way sounds much better. The pregnancy is just like my response to the guy who updated ICA with his semester GPAs. Without the sheepskin the GPAs and a buck thirty will only get you a Teh-O. Means nothing until all comes to term successfully.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: PR Chance 2024 - Sponsored by SPR

Post by ChitoOctto » Sun, 12 May 2024 5:20 pm

Hi all, thank you for the replies. I am hoping to get PR approved this time.

A few more things I did not mentioned were

i) my wife and I met and studied in the same college 10 years ago. From the education background submitting in the form, ICA may be able to see this information.

ii) we rented HDB room together for the past 3-4 years and have been living together before married. I believe that it will be registered in HDB by our landlord.

iii) I have been doing monthly donation of $60 to Singapore Cancer Society since Oct 2022 but recently (about 3-4 months ago) I have reduced the amount to $20 per month as our baby is coming soon. The amount may not be a lot, but I heard from some people that contributing to the community is one of the factor ICA checks.

iv) Also, I had done blood donation two times to blood bank throughout my stays in Singapore. Should I continue for more blood donation, as blood is always needed in Singapore.

In case my application got rejected, what is the recommendation to proceed next?

Q1: Should I appeal again after our child is born?

Q2: Should I apply for PR together with our child, while my wife applies for SC individually?

Q3: Should my wife and child apply for SC and wait for their SC approved. After that only apply PR for me again.

Our ultimate goal is to settle down in Singapore, get SC for all 3 of us, buy an HDB, get 1 more child and get our children education here.

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Re: PR Chance 2024 - Sponsored by SPR

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 12 May 2024 10:52 pm

ChitoOctto wrote:
Sun, 12 May 2024 5:20 pm
Hi all, thank you for the replies. I am hoping to get PR approved this time.

A few more things I did not mentioned were

i) my wife and I met and studied in the same college 10 years ago. From the education background submitting in the form, ICA may be able to see this information.

Of no benefit. Most marriages are usually between former classmates/attendees of the same school unless it's a 2nd marriage or a number of years and different cities.

ii) we rented HDB room together for the past 3-4 years and have been living together before married. I believe that it will be registered in HDB by our landlord.

I've never heard of shacking up as being a benefit so don't count on it.

iii) I have been doing monthly donation of $60 to Singapore Cancer Society since Oct 2022 but recently (about 3-4 months ago) I have reduced the amount to $20 per month as our baby is coming soon. The amount may not be a lot, but I heard from some people that contributing to the community is one of the factor ICA checks.

Incorrect. Used to be useful 15 years ago, but it as been so abused (donating/volunteering, etc until one got their PR then all stop. In other words, doing it for personal gain, and not for altruistic reasons. Now ICA doesn't even want to see it on an application as it signals you will probably have other 'stuff' on there as well that is for PR application purposes only.

iv) Also, I had done blood donation two times to blood bank throughout my stays in Singapore. Should I continue for more blood donation, as blood is always needed in Singapore.

Yes it is always a help to the people in need, but like the other donations, it's probably going to stop as soon as you get PR. If you are doing it altruistically, please continue but be advised that regardless of the reason for doing it, it will have no bearing on your chances.

In case my application got rejected, what is the recommendation to proceed next?

Q1: Should I appeal again after our child is born?

No. Appealing is only if pertinent information was left out at the time of the application, not based on a future hope. Ideally you should wait at least 12 months and preferably 2 years before reapplying.

Q2: Should I apply for PR together with our child, while my wife applies for SC individually?

No

Q3: Should my wife and child apply for SC and wait for their SC approved. After that only apply PR for me again.

Preferably.

Our ultimate goal is to settle down in Singapore, get SC for all 3 of us, buy an HDB, get 1 more child and get our children education here.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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