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PSLE results by primary school

Post by smoulder » Sun, 11 Feb 2024 7:54 pm

I've been searching for this and can't seem to find it. They seem to deliberately not publish a listing of average or median PSLE scores by primary school.

As someone who wasn't born here, it's very hard to figure out which of the 4 schools within a km of where I stay are good from an academics point of view. There is one which is famous. That one is obvious. However, looking through the registration history over the years, it looks like it has been oversubscribed every year in the 2B and 2C phases with all the slots being filled up with Singapore citizens within a km.

What it tells me is that even if my wife or I volunteer, we will still have to leave it to chance.

Hence, I'm looking for an alternative. The million dollar question is how on earth do I figure out what is considered "good".... All I've come across are sketchy opinions... "hearsay" 😏

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Re: PSLE results by primary school

Post by therat » Sun, 11 Feb 2024 8:59 pm


They used to have mentioned the highest PSLE students score.

But now you will not get any official newspaper about school PSLE result

Bcoz MOE don't encourage.

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Re: PSLE results by primary school

Post by smoulder » Mon, 12 Feb 2024 12:03 am

therat wrote:
Sun, 11 Feb 2024 8:59 pm
They used to have mentioned the highest PSLE students score.

But now you will not get any official newspaper about school PSLE result

Bcoz MOE don't encourage.

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Yea I kind of figured that out - something to do with the every school is a good school narrative.

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Re: PSLE results by primary school

Post by the observer » Mon, 12 Feb 2024 9:31 pm

smoulder wrote:
Mon, 12 Feb 2024 12:03 am
therat wrote:
Sun, 11 Feb 2024 8:59 pm
They used to have mentioned the highest PSLE students score.

But now you will not get any official newspaper about school PSLE result

Bcoz MOE don't encourage.

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Yea I kind of figured that out - something to do with the every school is a good school narrative.
So many kids from neighborhood primary schools make the cut to enrol into RI, RGS, Hwa Chong, Nanyang IP programs.

Worry about getting into the elite secondary schools instead.
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Re: PSLE results by primary school

Post by abbby » Mon, 12 Feb 2024 9:38 pm

I use the DSA school page to determine the last year's PSLE score for each school. Click on the school you would like to find out and the score is written on the page.

https://www.moe.gov.sg/secondary/dsa

Well, to me a good school is one that has good values, So I would refer to their website to read on their values. The other would be of course the PSLE score, I would feel the school is good if the cut off point score is between 10-16 (or even 18). Even better if the school has no affiliation to secondary school, which means those who got in via their AL have met the criteria of the cut off point rather than getting in based on affiliation.

For famous schools, sometimes if you volunteer it may not be a guaranteed placement. Something to ponder.

You're so lucky to have 4 schools within 1 km..
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Re: PSLE results by primary school

Post by the observer » Mon, 12 Feb 2024 10:00 pm

abbby wrote:
Mon, 12 Feb 2024 9:38 pm
I use the DSA school page to determine the last year's PSLE score for each school. Click on the school you would like to find out and the score is written on the page.

https://www.moe.gov.sg/secondary/dsa

Well, to me a good school is one that has good values, So I would refer to their website to read on their values. The other would be of course the PSLE score, I would feel the school is good if the cut off point score is between 10-16 (or even 18). Even better if the school has no affiliation to secondary school, which means those who got in via their AL have met the criteria of the cut off point rather than getting in based on affiliation.

For famous schools, sometimes if you volunteer it may not be a guaranteed placement. Something to ponder.

You're so lucky to have 4 schools within 1 km..
Every primary school is pretty much on par. They get a mix of good and lousy students, no matter how branded the primary schools are.

But not every secondary school is on par with each other.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ ... lling-them

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Re: PSLE results by primary school

Post by smoulder » Wed, 14 Feb 2024 2:56 pm

First off, my opinion on what constitutes a good education is that it's definitely not just grades. I didn't have the highest grades myself.

What I'd be looking for is is a more well rounded education - schools that can teach kids to be better humans, conduct themselves with grace and confidence and more specifically be able to communicate in good English. The last point - good command over English - that would be as opposed to Singlish being the only known variant of English if you know what I mean.

From what I can gather, some of the highly popular schools and Catholic schools (including the ones that are not extremely popular) would be able to fulfill the above requirements.

Then there are the relatively no name schools - some may be able to meet my requirements, but in the absence of reliable reviews or even school ratings based on grades, it's very hard to determine if they are good enough. What I would hate is for my daughter to grow up speaking Singlish as a first language - it's OK in my opinion to be able to speak that way if she can switch to good English, but no good if it's the only way she knows how to speak. It would be quite challenging for us to be correcting her at home and hoping that she unlearns bad habits.

Anyway. Right now we are toying with the idea of sending her to a Catholic school (phase 2B - she is Catholic and so am I, officially anyway). The nearest ones are no nearer than 10 km from home - even driving would be time consuming let alone taking public transport. So with that, either we suck it up and just wake up earlier or we might consider selling our condo and downgrading to an HDB nearer the school. It certainly wouldn't be an easy thing to do if we go ahead with the Catholic school option.

Obviously, we haven't yet decided - the other viable option is try our luck in 2C and hope she gets into the nearby popular school. If not we will have to be well prepared with other potential schools in the area.

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Re: PSLE results by primary school

Post by malcontent » Wed, 14 Feb 2024 6:31 pm

smoulder wrote:
Wed, 14 Feb 2024 2:56 pm
First off, my opinion on what constitutes a good education is that it's definitely not just grades. I didn't have the highest grades myself.

What I'd be looking for is is a more well rounded education - schools that can teach kids to be better humans, conduct themselves with grace and confidence and more specifically be able to communicate in good English. The last point - good command over English - that would be as opposed to Singlish being the only known variant of English if you know what I mean.

From what I can gather, some of the highly popular schools and Catholic schools (including the ones that are not extremely popular) would be able to fulfill the above requirements.

Then there are the relatively no name schools - some may be able to meet my requirements, but in the absence of reliable reviews or even school ratings based on grades, it's very hard to determine if they are good enough. What I would hate is for my daughter to grow up speaking Singlish as a first language - it's OK in my opinion to be able to speak that way if she can switch to good English, but no good if it's the only way she knows how to speak. It would be quite challenging for us to be correcting her at home and hoping that she unlearns bad habits.

Anyway. Right now we are toying with the idea of sending her to a Catholic school (phase 2B - she is Catholic and so am I, officially anyway). The nearest ones are no nearer than 10 km from home - even driving would be time consuming let alone taking public transport. So with that, either we suck it up and just wake up earlier or we might consider selling our condo and downgrading to an HDB nearer the school. It certainly wouldn't be an easy thing to do if we go ahead with the Catholic school option.

Obviously, we haven't yet decided - the other viable option is try our luck in 2C and hope she gets into the nearby popular school. If not we will have to be well prepared with other potential schools in the area.
Mission schools here tend to have better values/more well rounded. My wife and daughter both went to Catholic mission schools and I’ve got 3 nephews that went through ACS (Methodist) schools. ACS is even better in some ways, but not easy to get into. However, MGS (also part of Methodist system) has a bad rep for being atas/stuck up. My daughter was happy with the sincerity of her fellow students in the CHIJ system, and she got to wear the same uniform that her mom did, which was kinda cool.
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Re: PSLE results by primary school

Post by malcontent » Wed, 14 Feb 2024 6:39 pm

smoulder wrote:
Sun, 11 Feb 2024 7:54 pm
I've been searching for this and can't seem to find it. They seem to deliberately not publish a listing of average or median PSLE scores by primary school.

As someone who wasn't born here, it's very hard to figure out which of the 4 schools within a km of where I stay are good from an academics point of view. There is one which is famous. That one is obvious. However, looking through the registration history over the years, it looks like it has been oversubscribed every year in the 2B and 2C phases with all the slots being filled up with Singapore citizens within a km.

What it tells me is that even if my wife or I volunteer, we will still have to leave it to chance.

Hence, I'm looking for an alternative. The million dollar question is how on earth do I figure out what is considered "good".... All I've come across are sketchy opinions... "hearsay" 😏
I’d dare say there’s a pretty good correlation between PSLE outcomes and the demand for seats… usually, the more a school is oversubscribed during P1 registration, the better. Back during my kids enrollment, I web scraped the data from the MOE website two years prior so I had all of the stats. The MOE doesn’t put it out there for long, so you have to scrape it at each point in each phase.
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Re: PSLE results by primary school

Post by NYY1 » Thu, 15 Feb 2024 6:16 am

MOE now posts the previous year's data (all phases) online (should remain through the following year's registration exercise).

https://www.moe.gov.sg/primary/p1-regis ... oting-data

For the prior years' data, just Google "Primary School Ballot History" and it is all there. For both, it is still a good idea to save down what you need before the year rolls forward or in case the source goes away.

If you are looking at Phase 2B (mission school via Church affiliation), I wouldn't go back any further than the 2022 Registration Exercise. Before that, after Phase 2A (or Phase 2A1 / 2A2 back then) the remaining spaces were split differently than they are now. For some schools this doesn't matter, while for others there are now fewer spaces available in 2B.

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