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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by Lisafuller » Mon, 22 Jan 2024 3:54 pm

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Best scenario in my mind, Trump gets re-elected and then something happens to him and his vice takes over. Worst scenario, Biden gets re-elected and something happens to him and Kamala takes over. Biden and Trump are both fairly moderate on the political spectrum, Kamala is on the extreme far left (and is nasty about it).
You can't be serious Mal... having Trump re-elected would be the worst thing to happen to the US since he was elected the first time.

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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by tiktok » Mon, 22 Jan 2024 4:55 pm

It might be ok if "something happens to him" immediately after getting elected.
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Me no expat. Me foreigner.

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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by jalanjalan » Mon, 22 Jan 2024 5:35 pm

I've been watching the WEF coverage, and they all seem to be talking about "Trump-proofing" their economies. whoever you all elect, please try not to break the world economy :D

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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by malcontent » Mon, 22 Jan 2024 5:52 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 3:54 pm
malcontent wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 10:08 am
Best scenario in my mind, Trump gets re-elected and then something happens to him and his vice takes over. Worst scenario, Biden gets re-elected and something happens to him and Kamala takes over. Biden and Trump are both fairly moderate on the political spectrum, Kamala is on the extreme far left (and is nasty about it).
You can't be serious Mal... having Trump re-elected would be the worst thing to happen to the US since he was elected the first time.
I have no desire to see him reelected and honestly never believed he would get elected the first time. My expectations of him as a president the first time were “below low” — he has always struck me as a total fraud, total flake and total flim-flam man… and still does in many respects.

However (brace yourself), I actually have a higher opinion of him now than the first time around - - do not get me wrong, my opinion is still very low, but stupid stuff aside, there were some tangible positives:

First and foremost, the corporate tax reforms finally put the U.S. on a competitive footing with the rest of the world. That is huge for the future American prosperity.

Trump made the single best change to Obamacare, ending the individual mandate (I know intimately how bad this was for people like my brother who suffered unfair penalties for multiple years… not because he didn’t sign up, I signed him up! No, it was sheer incompetence on the government’s part, and I spent hours on the phone with them and they never could fix it or exempt him from the penalty).

And I know those on the far left were seething at his SCOTUS nominations, but I was pleased, especially with Amy Barrett.

The “build the wall” stuff was pure theatre… except for those who don’t know any better — the US already had a wall on almost all of the southern border before that. I suspect he didn’t finish the wall on purpose just so he could run again on a “finish the wall” campaign. The Dems didn’t do themselves any favors on that issue, so it will (once again) resonate with the folks.

Will there still be a bunch of stupid stuff happening if he is reelected? You can count on it. But is it a threat to America? I don’t see it.
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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by malcontent » Mon, 22 Jan 2024 6:01 pm

jalanjalan wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 5:35 pm
I've been watching the WEF coverage, and they all seem to be talking about "Trump-proofing" their economies. whoever you all elect, please try not to break the world economy :D
Chair Powell is by far the single most powerful person who could make or break the world economy. Presidents have far more limited power over world economies.

Despite the rhetoric, the U.S. has always had a “prosper thy neighbor” approach, what’s good for others is good for the USA.
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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by Strong Eagle » Tue, 23 Jan 2024 3:18 am

malcontent wrote:
Sun, 21 Jan 2024 2:10 am
What is your opinion on Tim Scott, dare I ask?
Ah yes, yet another hard right, trump endorsing MAGA liar. This is the clown that ran Columbia/HCA when it was accused of massive health care fraud, defrauding the government of billions. The board forced Scott to resign and HCA paid more than $1.7 billion in fines because of the actions under Scott's "leadership".

He's an election denier... and a chickenshit one at that... only hinting that the election was run like a corrupt election in Venezuela. He objected to the certification of electoral votes. Refused any attempts to hold trump accountable for Jan 6, calling it, "a complete waste of time."

Anti gay and anti abortion, he also voted against additional funds for Ukraine. Voted against all the infrastructure bills. Voted against the continuing resolution to fund the government in 2022, willing to shut it down.

He's a crook, just not on the scale of trump, a liar, still not on the scale of trump, and a hard right MAGA republican who will serve the monied interests and screw everyone else.

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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by Lisafuller » Tue, 23 Jan 2024 5:17 pm

tiktok wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 4:55 pm
It might be ok if "something happens to him" immediately after getting elected.
I'm not usually one to wish ill on others, but in this case something happening to him would be a blessing to far more.

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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by Lisafuller » Tue, 23 Jan 2024 5:18 pm

malcontent wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 6:01 pm
jalanjalan wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 5:35 pm
I've been watching the WEF coverage, and they all seem to be talking about "Trump-proofing" their economies. whoever you all elect, please try not to break the world economy :D
Chair Powell is by far the single most powerful person who could make or break the world economy. Presidents have far more limited power over world economies.

Despite the rhetoric, the U.S. has always had a “prosper thy neighbor” approach, what’s good for others is good for the USA.
More about the social impact his reelection would have. Would cause a widespread reaction.

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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by Lisafuller » Tue, 23 Jan 2024 5:19 pm

jalanjalan wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 5:35 pm
I've been watching the WEF coverage, and they all seem to be talking about "Trump-proofing" their economies. whoever you all elect, please try not to break the world economy :D
I'll do my part, but can't speak for anyone else :???: #-o

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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by Lisafuller » Tue, 23 Jan 2024 5:20 pm

malcontent wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 5:52 pm
Lisafuller wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 3:54 pm
malcontent wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 10:08 am
Best scenario in my mind, Trump gets re-elected and then something happens to him and his vice takes over. Worst scenario, Biden gets re-elected and something happens to him and Kamala takes over. Biden and Trump are both fairly moderate on the political spectrum, Kamala is on the extreme far left (and is nasty about it).
You can't be serious Mal... having Trump re-elected would be the worst thing to happen to the US since he was elected the first time.
I have no desire to see him reelected and honestly never believed he would get elected the first time. My expectations of him as a president the first time were “below low” — he has always struck me as a total fraud, total flake and total flim-flam man… and still does in many respects.

However (brace yourself), I actually have a higher opinion of him now than the first time around - - do not get me wrong, my opinion is still very low, but stupid stuff aside, there were some tangible positives:

First and foremost, the corporate tax reforms finally put the U.S. on a competitive footing with the rest of the world. That is huge for the future American prosperity.

Trump made the single best change to Obamacare, ending the individual mandate (I know intimately how bad this was for people like my brother who suffered unfair penalties for multiple years… not because he didn’t sign up, I signed him up! No, it was sheer incompetence on the government’s part, and I spent hours on the phone with them and they never could fix it or exempt him from the penalty).

And I know those on the far left were seething at his SCOTUS nominations, but I was pleased, especially with Amy Barrett.

The “build the wall” stuff was pure theatre… except for those who don’t know any better — the US already had a wall on almost all of the southern border before that. I suspect he didn’t finish the wall on purpose just so he could run again on a “finish the wall” campaign. The Dems didn’t do themselves any favors on that issue, so it will (once again) resonate with the folks.

Will there still be a bunch of stupid stuff happening if he is reelected? You can count on it. But is it a threat to America? I don’t see it.
Pleased??? With Amy Coney Barrett??? No way.

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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by malcontent » Tue, 23 Jan 2024 6:10 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Tue, 23 Jan 2024 5:20 pm
malcontent wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 5:52 pm
Lisafuller wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 3:54 pm


You can't be serious Mal... having Trump re-elected would be the worst thing to happen to the US since he was elected the first time.
I have no desire to see him reelected and honestly never believed he would get elected the first time. My expectations of him as a president the first time were “below low” — he has always struck me as a total fraud, total flake and total flim-flam man… and still does in many respects.

However (brace yourself), I actually have a higher opinion of him now than the first time around - - do not get me wrong, my opinion is still very low, but stupid stuff aside, there were some tangible positives:

First and foremost, the corporate tax reforms finally put the U.S. on a competitive footing with the rest of the world. That is huge for the future American prosperity.

Trump made the single best change to Obamacare, ending the individual mandate (I know intimately how bad this was for people like my brother who suffered unfair penalties for multiple years… not because he didn’t sign up, I signed him up! No, it was sheer incompetence on the government’s part, and I spent hours on the phone with them and they never could fix it or exempt him from the penalty).

And I know those on the far left were seething at his SCOTUS nominations, but I was pleased, especially with Amy Barrett.

The “build the wall” stuff was pure theatre… except for those who don’t know any better — the US already had a wall on almost all of the southern border before that. I suspect he didn’t finish the wall on purpose just so he could run again on a “finish the wall” campaign. The Dems didn’t do themselves any favors on that issue, so it will (once again) resonate with the folks.

Will there still be a bunch of stupid stuff happening if he is reelected? You can count on it. But is it a threat to America? I don’t see it.
Pleased??? With Amy Coney Barrett??? No way.
Yes, yes and yes. What an amazing woman; she is the only nominee I watched the entire confirmation hearing for. She wasn’t always given much of an opportunity to speak, but when she did I was hanging on every word. It’s people like that that renew my faith in humanity.
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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by malcontent » Tue, 23 Jan 2024 6:25 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Tue, 23 Jan 2024 5:19 pm
jalanjalan wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 5:35 pm
I've been watching the WEF coverage, and they all seem to be talking about "Trump-proofing" their economies. whoever you all elect, please try not to break the world economy :D
I'll do my part, but can't speak for anyone else :???: #-o
In reality, Trump could very well be reelected. My entire family back in the US will almost certainly vote for him, and they are not the MAGA crowd or Trumpers… it’s not about that whatsoever.
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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by malcontent » Tue, 23 Jan 2024 6:27 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Tue, 23 Jan 2024 5:18 pm
malcontent wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 6:01 pm
jalanjalan wrote:
Mon, 22 Jan 2024 5:35 pm
I've been watching the WEF coverage, and they all seem to be talking about "Trump-proofing" their economies. whoever you all elect, please try not to break the world economy :D
Chair Powell is by far the single most powerful person who could make or break the world economy. Presidents have far more limited power over world economies.

Despite the rhetoric, the U.S. has always had a “prosper thy neighbor” approach, what’s good for others is good for the USA.
More about the social impact his reelection would have. Would cause a widespread reaction.
Yeah, the Canadian immigration servers will crash again… but how many have actually left the country despite saying they would? It would be interesting to see those facts.
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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by malcontent » Wed, 24 Jan 2024 12:32 am

Really interesting article on how little Reps and Dems really know about each other…

https://democracy.psu.edu/poll-report-a ... opponents/
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Re: Dean Phillips

Post by Strong Eagle » Wed, 24 Jan 2024 2:56 am

malcontent wrote:
Tue, 23 Jan 2024 6:25 pm
In reality, Trump could very well be reelected. My entire family back in the US will almost certainly vote for him, and they are not the MAGA crowd or Trumpers… it’s not about that whatsoever.

Obviously, they are the "MAGA crowd" and "trumpers"... that's the only way that anyone could even think of voting for this treasonous rapist, this ignorant, demented criminal. There is no policy to support, foreign or otherwise. There is no healthcare policy. There are only threats of retribution.

Your family are most assuredly MAGA trumpers if they would consider voting for this man.

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