Japan Airlines collision

[abbby]

Couldn't quite comprehend how it could happen. Coast guard not paying attention or misread instructions..

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/ja ... ts-4022641

[JWNYsg]

Unfortunate. Maybe there were in a hurry to depart as well for that earthquake situation elsewhere

[Pal]

Read that the Coast guard plane is not authorised on that runway at that time.

Luckily the passengers evacuated fast. Else they will be engulfed in that fire.

Rip to the victims in the other plane

[PNGMK]

It will come down to miscommunication I suspect similar to SQ8 in Taipei. "Turn at next taxiway" became turn at this taxiway.

It's time for traffic lights and arrow indicators on runways and taxiways. The fact we rely on a second language via verbal communication into a noisy cockpit environment is archaic.

[Max Headroom]

Better yet, have an AI-based redundancy safety net that injects itself into the mix if and when things threaten to go wrong whilst taxiing, not only airborne when a crash is imminent, i.e. as in, "Terrain, pull up!"

For instance, in the case of the Taipei accident, it wouldn't necessarily have offered any input during the verbal confusion stage, but would have definitely cried foul when the plane started taking the early turn.

Of course, there was no serious AI back then. But going forward, AI seems destined to be incorporated into aviation in additional ways. AI doesn't get bored, lazy, sleepy, or strap itself in for the flight still drunk from last night.

[PNGMK]

Better yet, have an AI-based redundancy safety net that injects itself into the mix if and when things threaten to go wrong whilst taxiing, not only airborne when a crash is imminent, i.e. as in, "Terrain, pull up!"

For instance, in the case of the Taipei accident, it wouldn't necessarily have offered any input during the verbal confusion stage, but would have definitely cried foul when the plane started taking the early turn.

Of course, there was no serious AI back then. But going forward, AI seems destined to be incorporated into aviation in additional ways. AI doesn't get bored, lazy, sleepy, or strap itself in for the flight still drunk from last night.

AI can't yet consistently generate images of hands with the correct number of fingers....

[Strong Eagle]

Better yet, have an AI-based redundancy safety net that injects itself into the mix if and when things threaten to go wrong whilst taxiing, not only airborne when a crash is imminent, i.e. as in, "Terrain, pull up!"

For instance, in the case of the Taipei accident, it wouldn't necessarily have offered any input during the verbal confusion stage, but would have definitely cried foul when the plane started taking the early turn.

Of course, there was no serious AI back then. But going forward, AI seems destined to be incorporated into aviation in additional ways. AI doesn't get bored, lazy, sleepy, or strap itself in for the flight still drunk from last night.

AI = Artificial Idiocy. I wouldn't believe anything that current AI implementations might tell me. AI can't tell the difference between shit and shinola.

[Strong Eagle]

It will come down to miscommunication I suspect similar to SQ8 in Taipei. "Turn at next taxiway" became turn at this taxiway.

It's time for traffic lights and arrow indicators on runways and taxiways. The fact we rely on a second language via verbal communication into a noisy cockpit environment is archaic.

One of the big problems that has been cited on PPRUNE (Professional Pilots Rumor Network) is that the Dash 8 lighting was too hard to tell apart from the runway lights as the JAL A350 was landing... the JAL pilot did not see the Dash on the runway, it was virtually invisible amongst all the rest of the lights on the field.

[Strong Eagle]

It will come down to miscommunication I suspect similar to SQ8 in Taipei. "Turn at next taxiway" became turn at this taxiway.

It's time for traffic lights and arrow indicators on runways and taxiways. The fact we rely on a second language via verbal communication into a noisy cockpit environment is archaic.

Turns out that there were taxi lights and gate bars on the taxiways at the airport. But they were not operating due to a malfunction and a NOTAM had been issued to all pilots telliing them to exercise caution.

[abbby]

OMG, better no AI technology in plane communications...
Probably bad communication..