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by alnative » Sat, 12 Aug 2023 2:47 am
Hello,
We are looking at moving to Singapore and researching private elementary schools. Are there any that lean more conservative on social issues? There are private schools here (in the US) where the teachers can't say, "good morning, boys and girls" anymore, and then we have the more conservative schools, and I'm curious if it is the same there.
Thank you for your help!
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by malcontent » Sun, 13 Aug 2023 6:48 pm
alnative wrote: ↑Sat, 12 Aug 2023 2:47 am
Hello,
We are looking at moving to Singapore and researching private elementary schools. Are there any that lean more conservative on social issues? There are private schools here (in the US) where the teachers can't say, "good morning, boys and girls" anymore, and then we have the more conservative schools, and I'm curious if it is the same there.
Thank you for your help!
You will definitely want to steer clear of the Singapore American School — they are almost wholly liberal these days, the teachers, the principles and administrators.
They claim that they aren’t supposed to share their political leanings, but when they list their pronouns and virtue signal, it’s plainly obvious. Most recently they started removing the term “freshman” from all parlance, as if that term is somehow gender exclusive.
I would suggest ICS, which is effectively the Christian American School.
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by PNGMK » Mon, 14 Aug 2023 7:48 am
I agree on ICS but local schools are still conservative.
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by malcontent » Mon, 14 Aug 2023 12:28 pm
PNGMK wrote: ↑Mon, 14 Aug 2023 7:48 am
I agree on ICS but local schools are still conservative.
Good point — all local schools are conservative. But I believe only one local school is truly private (to the extent that is even possible) which is San Yu Adventist.
To be honest, the culture wars do not translate here — locals who learn about it would likely say… got nothing better to do, issit?
This indifference might shock people from the West, but it’s equally shocking to people here that such things can be made into such a big hoo-ha.
Even the concept of liberal vs. conservative does not register here, most couldn’t tell you which way the ruling party leans. They have more important things to worry about.
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by jalanjalan » Tue, 15 Aug 2023 11:45 am
malcontent wrote: ↑Mon, 14 Aug 2023 12:28 pm
To be honest, the culture wars do not translate here — locals who learn about it would likely say… got nothing better to do, issit?
It's an explicit nope. Culture wars seem to be all about conflict, protest, identity based politics etc. One of our official Shared Values is "consensus, not conflict" - it's got a chapter in the Singapore Journey course all new citizens take.
If such things are taught in
International Schools, they'll also have to teach the kids not to act on protest culture in SG or they will soon find out the meaning of lim kopi.
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by DavidC1 » Sun, 17 Mar 2024 1:34 am
malcontent wrote: ↑Sun, 13 Aug 2023 6:48 pm
alnative wrote: ↑Sat, 12 Aug 2023 2:47 am
Hello,
We are looking at moving to Singapore and researching private elementary schools. Are there any that lean more conservative on social issues? There are private schools here (in the US) where the teachers can't say, "good morning, boys and girls" anymore, and then we have the more conservative schools, and I'm curious if it is the same there.
Thank you for your help!
You will definitely want to steer clear of the Singapore American School — they are almost wholly liberal these days, the teachers, the principles and administrators.
They claim that they aren’t supposed to share their political leanings, but when they list their pronouns and virtue signal, it’s plainly obvious. Most recently they started removing the term “freshman” from all parlance, as if that term is somehow gender exclusive.
I would suggest ICS, which is effectively the Christian American School.
So the Singapore American School has gone full on woke. I’m guessing they are actively teaching children of all ages from kindergarten to high school about this. This is shocking.
Would you happen to know if the educators there are actively indoctrinating children and getting them to question their gender?
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by PNGMK » Sun, 17 Mar 2024 8:04 am
Probably.
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by malcontent » Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:44 am
DavidC1 wrote: ↑Sun, 17 Mar 2024 1:34 am
malcontent wrote: ↑Sun, 13 Aug 2023 6:48 pm
alnative wrote: ↑Sat, 12 Aug 2023 2:47 am
Hello,
We are looking at moving to Singapore and researching private elementary schools. Are there any that lean more conservative on social issues? There are private schools here (in the US) where the teachers can't say, "good morning, boys and girls" anymore, and then we have the more conservative schools, and I'm curious if it is the same there.
Thank you for your help!
You will definitely want to steer clear of the Singapore American School — they are almost wholly liberal these days, the teachers, the principles and administrators.
They claim that they aren’t supposed to share their political leanings, but when they list their pronouns and virtue signal, it’s plainly obvious. Most recently they started removing the term “freshman” from all parlance, as if that term is somehow gender exclusive.
I would suggest ICS, which is effectively the Christian American School.
So the Singapore American School has gone full on woke. I’m guessing they are actively teaching children of all ages from kindergarten to high school about this. This is shocking.
Would you happen to know if the educators there are actively indoctrinating children and getting them to question their gender?
They ratchet it up slowly from the younger grades, and they also slip it in through other ways — for example, in middle school they invited a book author to speak (who was a les) and she used an intro slide to prominently display her and her wife. I doubt a heteo author would done the same… so why do it in this case? I think we all know why.
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by DavidC1 » Sun, 17 Mar 2024 9:02 pm
PNGMK wrote: ↑Sun, 17 Mar 2024 8:04 am
Probably.
Im surprised so many parents who might be against this are remaining quiet.
Especially when Singapore's laws, which lean ultra conservative, are on their side.
This is utter madness and I'm totally speechless
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by PNGMK » Mon, 18 Mar 2024 8:54 am
DavidC1 wrote: ↑Sun, 17 Mar 2024 9:02 pm
PNGMK wrote: ↑Sun, 17 Mar 2024 8:04 am
Probably.
Im surprised so many parents who might be against this are remaining quiet.
Especially when Singapore's laws, which lean ultra conservative, are on their side.
This is utter madness and I'm totally speechless
SAS can terminate your child's education there with no refund. That's why they keep quiet.
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
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http://www.ISS.edu
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by DavidC1 » Mon, 18 Mar 2024 8:37 pm
malcontent wrote: ↑Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:44 am
DavidC1 wrote: ↑Sun, 17 Mar 2024 1:34 am
malcontent wrote: ↑Sun, 13 Aug 2023 6:48 pm
You will definitely want to steer clear of the Singapore American School — they are almost wholly liberal these days, the teachers, the principles and administrators.
They claim that they aren’t supposed to share their political leanings, but when they list their pronouns and virtue signal, it’s plainly obvious. Most recently they started removing the term “freshman” from all parlance, as if that term is somehow gender exclusive.
I would suggest ICS, which is effectively the Christian American School.
So the Singapore American School has gone full on woke. I’m guessing they are actively teaching children of all ages from kindergarten to high school about this. This is shocking.
Would you happen to know if the educators there are actively indoctrinating children and getting them to question their gender?
They ratchet it up slowly from the younger grades, and they also slip it in through other ways — for example, in middle school they invited a book author to speak (who was a les) and she used an intro slide to prominently display her and her wife. I doubt a heteo author would done the same… so why do it in this case? I think we all know why.
"Ratchet it up slowly from younger grades". This is no different from 'grooming' children.
Anonymous tip offs to the authorities would be the solution.
But I think a few parents would need to be on board with this.
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by DavidC1 » Tue, 19 Mar 2024 1:08 am
PNGMK wrote: ↑Mon, 18 Mar 2024 8:54 am
DavidC1 wrote: ↑Sun, 17 Mar 2024 9:02 pm
PNGMK wrote: ↑Sun, 17 Mar 2024 8:04 am
Probably.
Im surprised so many parents who might be against this are remaining quiet.
Especially when Singapore's laws, which lean ultra conservative, are on their side.
This is utter madness and I'm totally speechless
SAS can terminate your child's education there with no refund. That's why they keep quiet.
Just one question - did the school explicitly threaten parents to terminate their child's education if they spoke up against this madness?
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by malcontent » Tue, 19 Mar 2024 9:57 am
DavidC1 wrote: ↑Tue, 19 Mar 2024 1:08 am
PNGMK wrote: ↑Mon, 18 Mar 2024 8:54 am
DavidC1 wrote: ↑Sun, 17 Mar 2024 9:02 pm
Im surprised so many parents who might be against this are remaining quiet.
Especially when Singapore's laws, which lean ultra conservative, are on their side.
This is utter madness and I'm totally speechless
SAS can terminate your child's education there with no refund. That's why they keep quiet.
Just one question - did the school explicitly threaten parents to terminate their child's education if they spoke up against this madness?
They are very professional at what they do, they don’t resort to threats, they believe in what they are teaching whole heartedly, have all the reasons they believe in it and won’t be swayed by anything you try to tell them to the contrary. For example, they said these are the same materials used in schools in the US. When I brought up the fact that schools in the US have been sued because of the materials they are using… they stuck to their narrative that what is taught is inclusive and blah blah blah. They claim not to tread on morality, but by showing what they show, and then asking kids to come up with their own narratives, it’s a sneaky way of instilling that morality — the kids sell themselves on it so they don’t have to — that is the best selling technique of all.
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