PR application keeps getting rejected. Why?

[petergreene]

Hello,

These are my details:

Gender: male
Race: caucasian (from EU)
age: 43
Living and working in Singapore for 9 years
Occupation: manager in a very big international IT company
Not married
Applied for PR more than 5 times (not sure how many though - maybe 6-7)

Initially the rejections were without any guidance or explanation - just the standard "feel free to continue staying here on your valid EP".

Since last time though, in the rejection letter they started adding this:

Thank you for your interest in Singapore permanent residence (PR).

1 We have evaluated your application carefully, taking into consideration all the
documents you have submitted. However, we regret to inform you that your application is not
successful.
2 You may submit an application again if there is a change in your circumstances (from the information provided in this application). Nevertheless, you can continue to work and reside here on your valid Work Pass.


Does anyone have any remote idea what these "circumstances" they are talking about are? If it's about salary, I had a raise between the last year's application and now, and yet they still want "change in circumstances". Do they want me to get married to a local and have a boy?

Feel free to be cynical as much as you want.

Thank you!

[singaporeflyer]

Hello,

These are my details:

Gender: male
Race: caucasian (from EU)
age: 43
Living and working in Singapore for 9 years
Occupation: manager in a very big international IT company
Not married
Applied for PR more than 5 times (not sure how many though - maybe 6-7)

Initially the rejections were without any guidance or explanation - just the standard "feel free to continue staying here on your valid EP".

Since last time though, in the rejection letter they started adding this:

Thank you for your interest in Singapore permanent residence (PR).

1 We have evaluated your application carefully, taking into consideration all the
documents you have submitted. However, we regret to inform you that your application is not
successful.
2 You may submit an application again if there is a change in your circumstances (from the information provided in this application). Nevertheless, you can continue to work and reside here on your valid Work Pass.


Does anyone have any remote idea what these "circumstances" they are talking about are? If it's about salary, I had a raise between the last year's application and now, and yet they still want "change in circumstances". Do they want me to get married to a local and have a boy?

Feel free to be cynical as much as you want.

Thank you!

What it means to say indirectly is - if your situation/application details does not drastically change, don't repeatedly apply.

[MOCHS]

SG needs babies. Married couples beget babies. So yes, being married is better, being married to a local also means a higher tendency to settle down here for good which is what the permanent in permanent residency stands for.

You are classified under “Others” race which has the largest number of applicants for the smallest quota. This quota will definitely prioritise a married applicant. Preferably married to a local. Bonus if there are already offspring.

I believe I have spelled it out for you on why you keep getting rejected. Don’t enter a marriage of convenience for the sake of PR though.

Or have a plan B aka migrate to another country that is easier to get PR.

[nelyanne]

Hello,

These are my details:

Gender: male
Race: caucasian (from EU)
age: 43
Living and working in Singapore for 9 years
Occupation: manager in a very big international IT company
Not married
Applied for PR more than 5 times (not sure how many though - maybe 6-7)

Initially the rejections were without any guidance or explanation - just the standard "feel free to continue staying here on your valid EP".

Since last time though, in the rejection letter they started adding this:

Thank you for your interest in Singapore permanent residence (PR).

1 We have evaluated your application carefully, taking into consideration all the
documents you have submitted. However, we regret to inform you that your application is not
successful.
2 You may submit an application again if there is a change in your circumstances (from the information provided in this application). Nevertheless, you can continue to work and reside here on your valid Work Pass.


Does anyone have any remote idea what these "circumstances" they are talking about are? If it's about salary, I had a raise between the last year's application and now, and yet they still want "change in circumstances". Do they want me to get married to a local and have a boy?

Feel free to be cynical as much as you want.

Thank you!

You just keep funding Singapore by paying the application fees. Everything in your profile works against you. You would have to be a neurosurgeon to become a PR.

[petergreene]

SG needs babies. Married couples beget babies. So yes, being married is better, being married to a local also means a higher tendency to settle down here for good which is what the permanent in permanent residency stands for.

You are classified under “Others” race which has the largest number of applicants for the smallest quota. This quota will definitely prioritise a married applicant. Preferably married to a local. Bonus if there are already offspring.

I believe I have spelled it out for you on why you keep getting rejected. Don’t enter a marriage of convenience for the sake of PR though.

Or have a plan B aka migrate to another country that is easier to get PR.

Strange. Provided that nowadays only Indian foreign families can be considered "permanent". And ironically, I am the most localized angmoh you have probably met in your life.

Nah, I'm not gonna marry a local. All they want is money. Better just bang random locals - they are sexually deprived anyway, so as soon as they find out that they wouldn't have any benefit from you, you just move to the next one.

Migrating to another country because of a PR? Dude, you must be kidding me. This sounds so desperate, I don't want to be in such person's shoes.

It's so funny that by rejecting my application, they will approve 50 others who will be from India or any other country which will never adopt the Singaporean lifestyle. But whatever. Thanks everyone for your feedback, although it was nothing I didn't expect to hear.

[petergreene]

Hello,

These are my details:

Gender: male
Race: caucasian (from EU)
age: 43
Living and working in Singapore for 9 years
Occupation: manager in a very big international IT company
Not married
Applied for PR more than 5 times (not sure how many though - maybe 6-7)

Initially the rejections were without any guidance or explanation - just the standard "feel free to continue staying here on your valid EP".

Since last time though, in the rejection letter they started adding this:

Thank you for your interest in Singapore permanent residence (PR).

1 We have evaluated your application carefully, taking into consideration all the
documents you have submitted. However, we regret to inform you that your application is not
successful.
2 You may submit an application again if there is a change in your circumstances (from the information provided in this application). Nevertheless, you can continue to work and reside here on your valid Work Pass.


Does anyone have any remote idea what these "circumstances" they are talking about are? If it's about salary, I had a raise between the last year's application and now, and yet they still want "change in circumstances". Do they want me to get married to a local and have a boy?

Feel free to be cynical as much as you want.

Thank you!

You just keep funding Singapore by paying the application fees. Everything in your profile works against you. You would have to be a neurosurgeon to become a PR.

"Funding" them $100 once a year is considered "funding"? Provided that I pay this money only for 2 hours having a beer outside?

[smoulder]

Yup, you sound like you have integrated well. I can't understand why they can't see it.....

[MOCHS]

Or just marry whomever… doesn’t have to be local.

Many Indian families also struggle to get PR too so you might wanna toss that generalisation they are getting PR like candy out the window. They also aren’t in “Others” quota either so you can’t compare with them. ICA isn’t giving PR willy nilly these days.

My own husband is in “Others” quota and we did have lots of uncertainty with his PR so I’m trying to give you advice. But since you think me and the local ladies are just money grabbing SPGs, okay lor. I earn more than my hubby anyway.

Or maybe you’re joking but tone of voice doesn’t carry well on the internet.

[reddotaspirant]

Better just bang random locals - they are sexually deprived anyway, so as soon as they find out that they wouldn't have any benefit from you, you just move to the next one.

No matter how much fun you're having with random locals, ICA already sees you as an old man who has already lost or soon going to lose his capability to provide an offspring and contribute towards building future generation. May be you've already realised it and that's why you're venting out your frustration on this forum. Anyways, good luck for your future applications but I don't see a point in wasting even $100, better use that to buy beer for random locals in a bar.

[petergreene]

Better just bang random locals - they are sexually deprived anyway, so as soon as they find out that they wouldn't have any benefit from you, you just move to the next one.

No matter how much fun you're having with random locals, ICA already sees you as an old man who has already lost or soon going to lose his capability to provide an offspring and contribute towards building future generation. May be you've already realised it and that's why you're venting out your frustration on this forum. Anyways, good luck for your future applications but I don't see a point in wasting even $100, better use that to buy beer for random locals in a bar.

You seem to be some kind of expert in male reproductive functions. Pardon me for asking for a free advice, but may I know at what age males lose their capability to "provide offspring"? I am asking for a friend.

Also, if you think that the "future generation" in Singapore has future, then you don't seem to have noticed what happened with the "future generation" after the covid nonsense.

[hopeislife]

Unfortunately, I was drinking a cup of tea while reading this post. I read the OP's post about indians (as if they are easily given PR) and i spilled a bit of coffee when drinking and laughing as it was one of the best jokes i have recently heard.

Strange. Provided that nowadays only Indian foreign families can be considered "permanent". And ironically.

It's so funny that by rejecting my application, they will approve 50 others who will be from India or any other country which will never adopt the Singaporean lifestyle. But whatever.

This joke made my weekend. One more thing is, please dont generalize local sg women with a bad character (like they want your money and commenting their private life) in order to make your argument sound better.

[smoulder]

For a guy who claims to not be desperate for a Singapore PR, you seem to have applied a ton of times and seem quite butt hurt that they rejected you. A PR in a country with no future

[petergreene]

For a guy who claims to not be desperate for a Singapore PR, you seem to have applied a ton of times and seem quite butt hurt that they rejected you. A PR in a country with no future

Haha. Of course you will say that. But there are two reasons behind it. First, I do it for fun (I am quite bored most of the time) and second, I don't like rejections. I am used to achieving what I want and so far I've always gotten what I want sooner or later.

[gold.spot]

K. Thx bye

[Lisafuller]

Hello,

These are my details:

Gender: male
Race: caucasian (from EU)
age: 43
Living and working in Singapore for 9 years
Occupation: manager in a very big international IT company
Not married
Applied for PR more than 5 times (not sure how many though - maybe 6-7)

Initially the rejections were without any guidance or explanation - just the standard "feel free to continue staying here on your valid EP".

Since last time though, in the rejection letter they started adding this:

Thank you for your interest in Singapore permanent residence (PR).

1 We have evaluated your application carefully, taking into consideration all the
documents you have submitted. However, we regret to inform you that your application is not
successful.
2 You may submit an application again if there is a change in your circumstances (from the information provided in this application). Nevertheless, you can continue to work and reside here on your valid Work Pass.


Does anyone have any remote idea what these "circumstances" they are talking about are? If it's about salary, I had a raise between the last year's application and now, and yet they still want "change in circumstances". Do they want me to get married to a local and have a boy?

Feel free to be cynical as much as you want.

Thank you!

You just keep funding Singapore by paying the application fees. Everything in your profile works against you. You would have to be a neurosurgeon to become a PR.

Harsh