PR Chances for 4th Time Application?

[TanKianWee]

Hi All, hope you can give comment on the 4th application PR Changes?

Application Date: 6 December 2022
Processing Internal : 6 Months 17 Days
Pass: EP
Remarks: ePR Application, me, son and my wife applying together

Son Profile : 3 Years Old (Born in Year 2020) - Chinese Malaysian (Holding Singapore Dependent Pass)
Wife Profile : 41 Years Old (Born in Year 1982) - Myanmar Citizen (Holding Singapore Dependent Pass) - Housewife

About My Details :
Age : 40 (born in year 1983)
Race : Malaysian Chinese
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married with 1 son
Religion : Buddhist
Education :
1. Degree in Software Engineering (UK) - Completed in Year 2008
2. Master Degree (Part Time) in Software Engineering (Malaysia University College) - Completed in Year 2023 February
3. PHD Degree (Part Time) in Software Engineering (Malaysia University) - Ongoing in Year 2023
Current Field of Work : Credit Services, Finance
Current Job : Product Engineer I
Length of stay in Singapore : 3 Year (2017 to 2019) - Since March 2020 Work from Home in Malaysia till present
No of tax return : Year 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 (6 Years)
IRAS Year of Assessment 2023 (NOA Income): SGD83,103
Pass : EP (Renewed twice in same company in Year 2019 and Year 2022) (Expires in 23 April 2026)

Past 3 Time Applications (Rejected)

Third Application Rejected Date : 27 June 2020
Application Date : 27 December 2019
Rejected Interval : 6 Months
Pass : EP
Remarks : ePR Application, me and my wife applying together

Second Application Rejected Date : 13 May 2019
Application Date : 5 January 2019
Rejected Interval : 4 Months 8 Days
Pass : EP
Remarks : ePR Application, Only myself without applying with wife

First Application Rejected Date : 6 July 2018
Application Date : 6 December 2017
Rejected Interval : 7 Months
Pass : EP
Remarks : Manual Application, Only myself without applying with wife

[Ignorant1]

Hi All, hope you can give comment on the 4th application PR Changes?

Application Date: 6 December 2022
Processing Internal : 6 Months 17 Days
Pass: EP
Remarks: ePR Application, me, son and my wife applying together

Son Profile : 3 Years Old (Born in Year 2020) - Chinese Malaysian (Holding Singapore Dependent Pass)
Wife Profile : 41 Years Old (Born in Year 1982) - Myanmar Citizen (Holding Singapore Dependent Pass) - Housewife

About My Details :
Age : 40 (born in year 1983)
Race : Malaysian Chinese
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married with 1 son
Religion : Buddhist
Education :
1. Degree in Software Engineering (UK) - Completed in Year 2008
2. Master Degree (Part Time) in Software Engineering (Malaysia University College) - Completed in Year 2023 February
3. PHD Degree (Part Time) in Software Engineering (Malaysia University) - Ongoing in Year 2023
Current Field of Work : Credit Services, Finance
Current Job : Product Engineer I
Length of stay in Singapore : 3 Year (2017 to 2019) - Since March 2020 Work from Home in Malaysia till present
No of tax return : Year 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 (6 Years)
IRAS Year of Assessment 2023 (NOA Income): SGD83,103
Pass : EP (Renewed twice in same company in Year 2019 and Year 2022) (Expires in 23 April 2026)

Past 3 Time Applications (Rejected)

Third Application Rejected Date : 27 June 2020
Application Date : 27 December 2019
Rejected Interval : 6 Months
Pass : EP
Remarks : ePR Application, me and my wife applying together

Second Application Rejected Date : 13 May 2019
Application Date : 5 January 2019
Rejected Interval : 4 Months 8 Days
Pass : EP
Remarks : ePR Application, Only myself without applying with wife

First Application Rejected Date : 6 July 2018
Application Date : 6 December 2017
Rejected Interval : 7 Months
Pass : EP
Remarks : Manual Application, Only myself without applying with wife

No point in applying for permanent residency if you are not residing in Singapore. Also, not a good look that you dint add son in application ( assuming he was born by the time you applied )

[TanKianWee]

Hi All, hope you can give comment on the 4th application PR Changes?

Application Date: 6 December 2022
Processing Internal : 6 Months 17 Days
Pass: EP
Remarks: ePR Application, me, son and my wife applying together

Son Profile : 3 Years Old (Born in Year 2020) - Chinese Malaysian (Holding Singapore Dependent Pass)
Wife Profile : 41 Years Old (Born in Year 1982) - Myanmar Citizen (Holding Singapore Dependent Pass) - Housewife

About My Details :
Age : 40 (born in year 1983)
Race : Malaysian Chinese
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married with 1 son
Religion : Buddhist
Education :
1. Degree in Software Engineering (UK) - Completed in Year 2008
2. Master Degree (Part Time) in Software Engineering (Malaysia University College) - Completed in Year 2023 February
3. PHD Degree (Part Time) in Software Engineering (Malaysia University) - Ongoing in Year 2023
Current Field of Work : Credit Services, Finance
Current Job : Product Engineer I
Length of stay in Singapore : 3 Year (2017 to 2019) - Since March 2020 Work from Home in Malaysia till present
No of tax return : Year 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 (6 Years)
IRAS Year of Assessment 2023 (NOA Income): SGD83,103
Pass : EP (Renewed twice in same company in Year 2019 and Year 2022) (Expires in 23 April 2026)

Past 3 Time Applications (Rejected)

Third Application Rejected Date : 27 June 2020
Application Date : 27 December 2019
Rejected Interval : 6 Months
Pass : EP
Remarks : ePR Application, me and my wife applying together

Second Application Rejected Date : 13 May 2019
Application Date : 5 January 2019
Rejected Interval : 4 Months 8 Days
Pass : EP
Remarks : ePR Application, Only myself without applying with wife

First Application Rejected Date : 6 July 2018
Application Date : 6 December 2017
Rejected Interval : 7 Months
Pass : EP
Remarks : Manual Application, Only myself without applying with wife

No point in applying for permanent residency if you are not residing in Singapore. Also, not a good look that you dint add son in application ( assuming he was born by the time you applied )

Hi Ignorant1, thank you for commenting, however I am applying with my son and wife together ya. I am planning once got the Singapore PR then only moving back to Singapore.

Application Date: 6 December 2022
Processing Internal : 6 Months 17 Days
Pass: EP
Remarks: ePR Application, me, son and my wife applying together

Son Profile : 3 Years Old (Born in Year 2020) - Chinese Malaysian (Holding Singapore Dependent Pass)
Wife Profile : 41 Years Old (Born in Year 1982) - Myanmar Citizen (Holding Singapore Dependent Pass) - Housewife

[therat]

What they looking at is
Where r u now not where u plan to be in future

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[smoulder]

Are you drawing a Singapore salary and paying taxes in Singapore? At least that might help your case.

[TanKianWee]

What they looking at is
Where r u now not where u plan to be in future

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Hi therat, thank you for your comment appreciated

[TanKianWee]

Are you drawing a Singapore salary and paying taxes in Singapore? At least that might help your case.

Hi smoulder, yes I do have Singapore salary to Singapore bank and continuous for 6 years is paying the tax to IRAS.

[sundaymorningstaple]

As you are NOT permanently resident in Singapore, it's doubtful you will see any success until you physically return to work IN Singapore. Also, you applications are too close together. ICA might see that as a sign of desperation, what with the norms being 24 months after a rejection unless you have major changes (not cost living increases).

[MOCHS]

If everyone who WFH overseas for a Singapore company can get PR so easily, there will be an uproar. What makes you think you’re so special?

Be physically in SG first despite the financial costs.

[smoulder]

Are you drawing a Singapore salary and paying taxes in Singapore? At least that might help your case.

Hi smoulder, yes I do have Singapore salary to Singapore bank and continuous for 6 years is paying the tax to IRAS.

Right. As others have stated, you probably should move to Singapore and then maybe the outcome will be different.

Think about it - many Malaysians just have to apply for PR and they are approved quite easily compared to other nationalities. Even
Malaysians who are far less educated than you. That should tell you something.

[Lisafuller]

Hi All, hope you can give comment on the 4th application PR Changes?

Application Date: 6 December 2022
Processing Internal : 6 Months 17 Days
Pass: EP
Remarks: ePR Application, me, son and my wife applying together

Son Profile : 3 Years Old (Born in Year 2020) - Chinese Malaysian (Holding Singapore Dependent Pass)
Wife Profile : 41 Years Old (Born in Year 1982) - Myanmar Citizen (Holding Singapore Dependent Pass) - Housewife

About My Details :
Age : 40 (born in year 1983)
Race : Malaysian Chinese
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married with 1 son
Religion : Buddhist
Education :
1. Degree in Software Engineering (UK) - Completed in Year 2008
2. Master Degree (Part Time) in Software Engineering (Malaysia University College) - Completed in Year 2023 February
3. PHD Degree (Part Time) in Software Engineering (Malaysia University) - Ongoing in Year 2023
Current Field of Work : Credit Services, Finance
Current Job : Product Engineer I
Length of stay in Singapore : 3 Year (2017 to 2019) - Since March 2020 Work from Home in Malaysia till present
No of tax return : Year 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 (6 Years)
IRAS Year of Assessment 2023 (NOA Income): SGD83,103
Pass : EP (Renewed twice in same company in Year 2019 and Year 2022) (Expires in 23 April 2026)

Past 3 Time Applications (Rejected)

Third Application Rejected Date : 27 June 2020
Application Date : 27 December 2019
Rejected Interval : 6 Months
Pass : EP
Remarks : ePR Application, me and my wife applying together

Second Application Rejected Date : 13 May 2019
Application Date : 5 January 2019
Rejected Interval : 4 Months 8 Days
Pass : EP
Remarks : ePR Application, Only myself without applying with wife

First Application Rejected Date : 6 July 2018
Application Date : 6 December 2017
Rejected Interval : 7 Months
Pass : EP
Remarks : Manual Application, Only myself without applying with wife

No point in applying for permanent residency if you are not residing in Singapore. Also, not a good look that you dint add son in application ( assuming he was born by the time you applied )

Agree. Wasting everyone's time and effort.

[Lisafuller]

Hi All, hope you can give comment on the 4th application PR Changes?

Application Date: 6 December 2022
Processing Internal : 6 Months 17 Days
Pass: EP
Remarks: ePR Application, me, son and my wife applying together

Son Profile : 3 Years Old (Born in Year 2020) - Chinese Malaysian (Holding Singapore Dependent Pass)
Wife Profile : 41 Years Old (Born in Year 1982) - Myanmar Citizen (Holding Singapore Dependent Pass) - Housewife

About My Details :
Age : 40 (born in year 1983)
Race : Malaysian Chinese
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married with 1 son
Religion : Buddhist
Education :
1. Degree in Software Engineering (UK) - Completed in Year 2008
2. Master Degree (Part Time) in Software Engineering (Malaysia University College) - Completed in Year 2023 February
3. PHD Degree (Part Time) in Software Engineering (Malaysia University) - Ongoing in Year 2023
Current Field of Work : Credit Services, Finance
Current Job : Product Engineer I
Length of stay in Singapore : 3 Year (2017 to 2019) - Since March 2020 Work from Home in Malaysia till present
No of tax return : Year 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 (6 Years)
IRAS Year of Assessment 2023 (NOA Income): SGD83,103
Pass : EP (Renewed twice in same company in Year 2019 and Year 2022) (Expires in 23 April 2026)

Past 3 Time Applications (Rejected)

Third Application Rejected Date : 27 June 2020
Application Date : 27 December 2019
Rejected Interval : 6 Months
Pass : EP
Remarks : ePR Application, me and my wife applying together

Second Application Rejected Date : 13 May 2019
Application Date : 5 January 2019
Rejected Interval : 4 Months 8 Days
Pass : EP
Remarks : ePR Application, Only myself without applying with wife

First Application Rejected Date : 6 July 2018
Application Date : 6 December 2017
Rejected Interval : 7 Months
Pass : EP
Remarks : Manual Application, Only myself without applying with wife

No point in applying for permanent residency if you are not residing in Singapore. Also, not a good look that you dint add son in application ( assuming he was born by the time you applied )

Hi Ignorant1, thank you for commenting, however I am applying with my son and wife together ya. I am planning once got the Singapore PR then only moving back to Singapore.

Application Date: 6 December 2022
Processing Internal : 6 Months 17 Days
Pass: EP
Remarks: ePR Application, me, son and my wife applying together

Son Profile : 3 Years Old (Born in Year 2020) - Chinese Malaysian (Holding Singapore Dependent Pass)
Wife Profile : 41 Years Old (Born in Year 1982) - Myanmar Citizen (Holding Singapore Dependent Pass) - Housewife

That's not how it works. You don't get to live here only when it's convenient for you.

[Lisafuller]

As you are NOT permanently resident in Singapore, it's doubtful you will see any success until you physically return to work IN Singapore. Also, you applications are too close together. ICA might see that as a sign of desperation, what with the norms being 24 months after a rejection unless you have major changes (not cost living increases).

Was going to comment on that, there are definitely some applicants who have to apply more than four times as they have less appealing profiles, but a Malaysian Chinese applying four times in that short of a timeframe definitely comes across as desperate.

[Lisafuller]

If everyone who WFH overseas for a Singapore company can get PR so easily, there will be an uproar. What makes you think you’re so special?

Be physically in SG first despite the financial costs.

Exactly. I will never understand some of these people, you don't get to have your cake and eat it too.

[therat]

I go thru all his posting.

he really shown desperate

Nov 2016 - Married in Myanmar,
June 2017 - 1st job in SG
Dec 2017 - apply 1st time PR (w/o wife) with 6 mth payslip
Mar 2018 - quit job. EP cancel. went back to MY for 1 mth
April 2018 - start new job
July 2018 - reject 1st time PR application
Jan 2019 - apply 2nd time (w/o wife)
May 2019 - reject 2nd time
Dec 2019 - apply 3rd time (w wife) - use immigration agency
June 2020 - reject 3rd time
Aug 2020 - son born.
Mar 2020 - live in MY (SG and MY border close in Mar 2020)
Dec 2022 - apply 4th time (w wife and son)

1 of his post, OP mention his wife and son staying in KL.