Citizenship chances evaluation

[Sapphirefire]

Hi all!

My Singapore citizen husband has sponsored for me, a PR, citizenship application and I would like to know how possible it is for me to get citizenship. Here are our details:

Husband:
Age: 28
Citizenship: Singaporean
Race: Indian
Marital status: married for 2 years to me
Children: 1 one year old singaporean child (boy) with me
Property: owns a 5-room HDB flat with me
Occupation: aircraft technician for 3 years
Salary: $2800 monthly
Highest education: local polytechnic diploma

Me (wife):
Age: 28
Race: Indian
Citizenship: Indian, Singapore permanent resident since I was 1 year old
Marital status: married singaporean in 2019, divorced in mar 2021. Married current husband in June 2021. No children or property from previous marriage
Occupation: staff nurse working at statutory board for 3 years
Salary: 3800 monthly
Highest education: nursing diploma from local polytechnic

My previous marriage was an extremely messy and toxic one and my ex-parents-in-law have lodged a police report against me for “harassment” and have gotten a personal protection order against me in the POHA court. I did not breach this order and hence have not been convicted of any offence or crime. The case manager also made me pay my ex parents-in-law $500 for their “inconveniences”.

I am wondering if this police report and court case would be detrimental to my citizenship approval.

Any insights to my case would be much appreciated. Thank you so much!

[singaporeflyer]

Hi all!

My Singapore citizen husband has sponsored for me, a PR, citizenship application and I would like to know how possible it is for me to get citizenship. Here are our details:

Husband:
Age: 28
Citizenship: Singaporean
Race: Indian
Marital status: married for 2 years to me
Children: 1 one year old singaporean child (boy) with me
Property: owns a 5-room HDB flat with me
Occupation: aircraft technician for 3 years
Salary: $2800 monthly
Highest education: local polytechnic diploma

Me (wife):
Age: 28
Race: Indian
Citizenship: Indian, Singapore permanent resident since I was 1 year old
Marital status: married singaporean in 2019, divorced in mar 2021. Married current husband in June 2021. No children or property from previous marriage
Occupation: staff nurse working at statutory board for 3 years
Salary: 3800 monthly
Highest education: nursing diploma from local polytechnic

My previous marriage was an extremely messy and toxic one and my ex-parents-in-law have lodged a police report against me for “harassment” and have gotten a personal protection order against me in the POHA court. I did not breach this order and hence have not been convicted of any offence or crime. The case manager also made me pay my ex parents-in-law $500 for their “inconveniences”.

I am wondering if this police report and court case would be detrimental to my citizenship approval.

Any insights to my case would be much appreciated. Thank you so much!

Having any reports lodged will surely make the SC application tough.

[lot286]

yes, it will be detrimental to your application.
maybe you can re-apply (you are still young) after couple of years to prove that your current marriage is ok and your past was an anomaly.

[Sapphirefire]

Hi all!

My Singapore citizen husband has sponsored for me, a PR, citizenship application and I would like to know how possible it is for me to get citizenship. Here are our details:

Husband:
Age: 28
Citizenship: Singaporean
Race: Indian
Marital status: married for 2 years to me
Children: 1 one year old singaporean child (boy) with me
Property: owns a 5-room HDB flat with me
Occupation: aircraft technician for 3 years
Salary: $2800 monthly
Highest education: local polytechnic diploma

Me (wife):
Age: 28
Race: Indian
Citizenship: Indian, Singapore permanent resident since I was 1 year old
Marital status: married singaporean in 2019, divorced in mar 2021. Married current husband in June 2021. No children or property from previous marriage
Occupation: staff nurse working at statutory board for 3 years
Salary: 3800 monthly
Highest education: nursing diploma from local polytechnic

My previous marriage was an extremely messy and toxic one and my ex-parents-in-law have lodged a police report against me for “harassment” and have gotten a personal protection order against me in the POHA court. I did not breach this order and hence have not been convicted of any offence or crime. The case manager also made me pay my ex parents-in-law $500 for their “inconveniences”.

I am wondering if this police report and court case would be detrimental to my citizenship approval.

Any insights to my case would be much appreciated. Thank you so much!

Having any reports lodged will surely make the SC application tough.

I feel that’s not fair because it wasn’t my fault. In fact, I was the victim there.

All I wanted was my clothes and accessories back, which cost about $2000 in total and stuck in my ex’s parents’ place. I asked them to put the stuff outside and that I’ll get Lalamovers to collect them for me.

But they said that I need to “send my brother to their house to hand-deliver the two sarees” that they bought for me. I told them that I cannot send my brother and that they can either come collect themselves or get a delivery service. To the they said that they will not give me clothes and items back, so I replied them with a screenshot of a popular imam (Islamic scholar) replying on an Islamic Q&A website with a quote from the prophet that said “people who ask back for gifts are like dogs swallowing their own vomit”. They’ve had the cheek to file a police report for this when they’ve done far worse like call me a whore and arrogant bitch.

Just because someone files a police report doesn’t mean I’m guilty.

[sundaymorningstaple]

I feel that’s not fair because it wasn’t my fault. In fact, I was the victim there.

That is your side of the story. There is a lot missing between your 1st marriage and the divorce. Like what got your marriage to the point of divorce? Would be interesting to hear both versions of the facts. If you had a messy divorce there may be more to it than meets the eye. Especially considering you remarried only 3 months after your divorce?

[MOCHS]

Nobody said it was your fault. The senior members here just honestly said that having a police report may impact the application, that’s all. They didn’t say anything further.

They can only tell you what ICA might think and if you don’t like that they told you the honest truth, don’t be too surprised if the outcome is that the application gets rejected.

[Sapphirefire]

I feel that’s not fair because it wasn’t my fault. In fact, I was the victim there.

That is your side of the story. There is a lot missing between your 1st marriage and the divorce. Like what got your marriage to the point of divorce? Would be interesting to hear both versions of the facts. If you had a messy divorce there may be more to it than meets the eye. Especially considering you remarried only 3 months after your divorce?

The marriage was a forced arranged marriage done by my parents and it was a very toxic, abusive one for me. I was not allowed to Visit or see any friends or relatives, I was not allowed to go to work and yet, they didn’t give me any allowances. My ex-parents-in-law also kept separating me from my ex-husband and expected expensive gifts continuously from my parents who could not afford it. I was expected to stay with my parents-in-law my whole life. I wasn’t allowed to buy a HDB with my husband and move away.

Therefore I filed for the divorce and by luck, I found a boyfriend soon after. I’m Muslim, so I can’t have boyfriends. If we like someone, we have to get married soon. We’re not allowed to be in romantic relationships. So I married my boyfriend quickly. I’m much happier in my second marriage now.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Makes it a lot clearer now. I wish you luck. I've been through the divorce thing myself many years ago. Will be married 39 years to my current wife in Sept.

[Sapphirefire]

Makes it a lot clearer now. I wish you luck. I've been through the divorce thing myself many years ago. Will be married 39 years to my current wife in Sept.

Oh man. Would my re-entry permit renewal be affected because of the stupid police report? I don’t have anywhere to go my family’s all here. My dad and siblings and husband and child are all singaporean. My job is here too what will I do in India all by myself?

[sundaymorningstaple]

Makes it a lot clearer now. I wish you luck. I've been through the divorce thing myself many years ago. Will be married 39 years to my current wife in Sept.

Oh man. Would my re-entry permit renewal be affected because of the stupid police report? I don’t have anywhere to go my family’s all here. My dad and siblings and husband and child are all singaporean. My job is here too what will I do in India all by myself?

Unless you have been convicted in a court of law, I doubt seriously that it would affect the REP. The Employment and location of employment are the main issues there. However, should you be "convicted" of a crime, it might be a possibility. Sadly we do not have any anecdotal stories in this kind of circumstance to support any outcome hypothesis.

[jalanjalan]

Makes it a lot clearer now. I wish you luck. I've been through the divorce thing myself many years ago. Will be married 39 years to my current wife in Sept.

Oh man. Would my re-entry permit renewal be affected because of the stupid police report? I don’t have anywhere to go my family’s all here. My dad and siblings and husband and child are all singaporean. My job is here too what will I do in India all by myself?

Unless you have been convicted in a court of law, I doubt seriously that it would affect the REP. The Employment and location of employment are the main issues there. However, should you be "convicted" of a crime, it might be a possibility. Sadly we do not have any anecdotal stories in this kind of circumstance to support any outcome hypothesis.

There was a case in the news some years back:
"He said ICA's policy, among other things, was not to grant REPs automatically and that a PR who is under probe or has been charged, convicted or is appealing against the conviction is generally not granted an REP unless the case is concluded."
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ ... tus-review

[Sapphirefire]

Oh man. Would my re-entry permit renewal be affected because of the stupid police report? I don’t have anywhere to go my family’s all here. My dad and siblings and husband and child are all singaporean. My job is here too what will I do in India all by myself?

Unless you have been convicted in a court of law, I doubt seriously that it would affect the REP. The Employment and location of employment are the main issues there. However, should you be "convicted" of a crime, it might be a possibility. Sadly we do not have any anecdotal stories in this kind of circumstance to support any outcome hypothesis.

There was a case in the news some years back:
"He said ICA's policy, among other things, was not to grant REPs automatically and that a PR who is under probe or has been charged, convicted or is appealing against the conviction is generally not granted an REP unless the case is concluded."
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ ... tus-review

I have not been convicted of any crime…. I jus wanted my clothes and belongings back that’s all. My ex-parents-law were the hostile ones who refused to give me my items back.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Oh man. Would my re-entry permit renewal be affected because of the stupid police report? I don’t have anywhere to go my family’s all here. My dad and siblings and husband and child are all singaporean. My job is here too what will I do in India all by myself?

Unless you have been convicted in a court of law, I doubt seriously that it would affect the REP. The Employment and location of employment are the main issues there. However, should you be "convicted" of a crime, it might be a possibility. Sadly we do not have any anecdotal stories in this kind of circumstance to support any outcome hypothesis.

There was a case in the news some years back:
"He said ICA's policy, among other things, was not to grant REPs automatically and that a PR who is under probe or has been charged, convicted or is appealing against the conviction is generally not granted an REP unless the case is concluded."
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ ... tus-review

Good job. I missed that back when it was news. I have to wonder if the statement was made, while probably 100% correct, and was put so bluntly due to the fact that the person in question was a law professor and should well have known better. But I do know for a fact the Immigration Officers are given a heck of a lot of leeway in their interpretation of the rules. In fact it's a generally understood thing that Immigration officers are doGs unto themselves. That's why appeals are rarely successful. I actually shared an office with the US INS officer in Singapore on the 32nd floor of Int'l plaza back in the late 80s~early 90s when working with the UNHCR resettling the boat people from VN. I prepared cases for resettlement to present to that INS officer after doing many field trips to the camps for interviews with the refugees.

[malcontent]

Unless you have been convicted in a court of law, I doubt seriously that it would affect the REP. The Employment and location of employment are the main issues there. However, should you be "convicted" of a crime, it might be a possibility. Sadly we do not have any anecdotal stories in this kind of circumstance to support any outcome hypothesis.

There was a case in the news some years back:
"He said ICA's policy, among other things, was not to grant REPs automatically and that a PR who is under probe or has been charged, convicted or is appealing against the conviction is generally not granted an REP unless the case is concluded."
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ ... tus-review

Good job. I missed that back when it was news. I have to wonder if the statement was made, while probably 100% correct, and was put so bluntly due to the fact that the person in question was a law professor and should well have known better. But I do know for a fact the Immigration Officers are given a heck of a lot of leeway in their interpretation of the rules. In fact it's a generally understood thing that Immigration officers are doGs unto themselves. That's why appeals are rarely successful. I actually shared an office with the US INS officer in Singapore on the 32nd floor of Int'l plaza back in the late 80s~early 90s when working with the UNHCR resettling the boat people from VN. I prepared cases for resettlement to present to that INS officer after doing many field trips to the camps for interviews with the refugees.

Did you have a translator, use hand signals, or?

[sundaymorningstaple]

I had several translators.