Singapore Citizenship Chance

[htet]

Hi all,

Just want to have your thoughts on my case.

Burmese ; PR since Primary 3 -> Sec school -> Singapore Poly -> NS
ORD(SAF) August 22'
Full time job (1 year contract) August 22'
Applied for Citizenship Sep 22'
Uni placing and accepted in to SIT April 23' school starting in Aug 23'

Been waiting for my outcome for 8 months now , as i've seen people getting approved less than 5 months ~

[singaporeflyer]

Hi all,

Just want to have your thoughts on my case.

Burmese ; PR since Primary 3 -> Sec school -> Singapore Poly -> NS
ORD(SAF) August 22'
Full time job (1 year contract) August 22'
Applied for Citizenship Sep 22'
Uni placing and accepted in to SIT April 23' school starting in Aug 23'

Been waiting for my outcome for 8 months now , as i've seen people getting approved less than 5 months ~

50-50 chance.

[Lisafuller]

Hi all,

Just want to have your thoughts on my case.

Burmese ; PR since Primary 3 -> Sec school -> Singapore Poly -> NS
ORD(SAF) August 22'
Full time job (1 year contract) August 22'
Applied for Citizenship Sep 22'
Uni placing and accepted in to SIT April 23' school starting in Aug 23'

Been waiting for my outcome for 8 months now , as i've seen people getting approved less than 5 months ~

I'd say you stand a pretty good chance, you've been educated in Singapore since young, a PR since nine years old, and have served the country in NS. You've made your contribution.

[四月.樱花]

Hi, I am Burmese too and married to SC. PR since 2013 and just gotten citizenship approval after waiting time of 13 months. During my recent SCJ activities, learnt from the fellow SCs to be, that application process took about 13,14 months.

Wish you get the good news soon.

[htet]

Hi, I am Burmese too and married to SC. PR since 2013 and just gotten citizenship approval after waiting time of 13 months. During my recent SCJ activities, learnt from the fellow SCs to be, that application process took about 13,14 months.

Wish you get the good news soon.

HI , i see ! thank you .. just the diff is im not married to sc yet HAHA

[htet]

Hi, I am Burmese too and married to SC. PR since 2013 and just gotten citizenship approval after waiting time of 13 months. During my recent SCJ activities, learnt from the fellow SCs to be, that application process took about 13,14 months.

Wish you get the good news soon.

I see , just that im not married yet , just starting uni haha

[dandeiloo99]

Hi all,

Just want to have your thoughts on my case.

Burmese ; PR since Primary 3 -> Sec school -> Singapore Poly -> NS
ORD(SAF) August 22'
Full time job (1 year contract) August 22'
Applied for Citizenship Sep 22'
Uni placing and accepted in to SIT April 23' school starting in Aug 23'

Been waiting for my outcome for 8 months now , as i've seen people getting approved less than 5 months ~

High chance since you completed NS. Shouldn't take more than a year to approve or something is wrong

[Priya1]

Hi All,

Indian household
husband and wife working - Banking, Insurance- Technology , Risk & Governance
Age - 42, 36
Combined income ~400k sgd
9 year old daughter in local primary school
PR approved - 2023
Overall stay in Singapore since 2010.

What are your honest opinions if we apply for SC next year after the 2 years completion?

I might be internally transferred to Australia for a couple of years and I am the not the main sponsor for the PR. Will it have any impact?

Please provide your insights.

[hopeislife]

Hi All,

Indian household
husband and wife working - Banking, Insurance- Technology , Risk & Governance
Age - 42, 36
Combined income ~400k sgd
9 year old daughter in local primary school
PR approved - 2023
Overall stay in Singapore since 2010.

What are your honest opinions if we apply for SC next year after the 2 years completion?

I might be internally transferred to Australia for a couple of years and I am the not the main sponsor for the PR. Will it have any impact?

Please provide your insights.

My honest opinion is that it is not going to be easy, and it will not happen so soon. I can vouch for it. Especially if you are going to be transferred overseas (But i also think this may not be the main reason for rejection).
I can openly say you may get it only after a REP renewal, which means you can apply somewhere around the 4th year mark. I dont think SC will be approved for you within 5 years. I dont know when will us indians realize that high salary is not the only criteria for SC approval.

Kindly note the above is just my opinion

[Strong Eagle]

My honest opinion is that...

I'm glad that you're not giving a dishonest opinion!

[singaporeflyer]

Hi All,

Indian household
husband and wife working - Banking, Insurance- Technology , Risk & Governance
Age - 42, 36
Combined income ~400k sgd
9 year old daughter in local primary school
PR approved - 2023
Overall stay in Singapore since 2010.

What are your honest opinions if we apply for SC next year after the 2 years completion?

I might be internally transferred to Australia for a couple of years and I am the not the main sponsor for the PR. Will it have any impact?

Please provide your insights.

Based on your details, You will surely need 5 years on PR to have a reasonable chance. Apart from this, all look good. And yes, SC application outcome will take 12-24 months.

[Opalescent]

Singapore PR since 2006
Indian national but in Singapore for last 22 years.
Cannot think of settling anywhere else- this is 'our home'.
Applied citizenship twice in 2010 - rejected in 2014
Second application in 2018 - they asked us our parents and siblings details after one week so had a glimmer of hope but again rejected in 2021.
Now applying again - daughter is now 22 and will apply on her own- she was always in International School and now in US but wants to come back , do masters/ work here in NUS or NTU
tech field.
Own 2 properties- stay in one and rent out another
Me aged 56 , spouse 58 now ; came here in 2003 and 2005 respectively
Family income combined - 500k / year
Spouse -High profile job in MNC n I am a Senior Lecturer in Polytechnic
Now we will start volunteering for our GRC
We are very frustrated and genuine applicants - no intentions of hopping off to any other place.
Is there any way to appeal, if rejected? Do not see any appeal portal on ICA and against going to any agents for this - prefer doing our own
What do you suggest - apply apply until they give it to you?
Thanks in advance for your time and any replies.

[sundaymorningstaple]

The only real nasty I see, and it can be a deal breaker, is the fact that you have always kept your daughter in an International School. This gives the impression that regardless of your tenure here, it was never viewed by ICA as being permanent, hence the International school gives the wrong impression.

If you search the archives here hard enough back 15 years or more you can learn what a problem it became for a certain card-carrying PAP member who has a Polish wife (SG-PR) for over 30 years and they had two British Born children while the Father was working in the UK as an investment banker on High Street for a Japanese Bank. When they came back to SG, The daughter was made a PR and went through the local system (she is now around 40 and is the MD of the father's company as the father now has health issues) The son, however, was put on a Student Visa and when through the International Schools here and both children went back to the UK after graduating to go to universities there (One at Cambridge and the other at Oxford). Now the problem. The daughter got her law degree from Cambridge and did her 6 months with one of the best legal firms in Singapore (Daddy's connections). The son did his BS and MS in Civil Engineering and when he came back to work in the company, his EP was rejected, and no matter how many times we tried or high the salary was, it was rejected. Why? In his case he didn't do NS as he wasn't a PR here and was a UK citizen so wasn't required to do NS. The problem was the government was aware who his father was and the reason for the Student Visa was to avoid NS. I told him (the Father-who was my boss) what was going to happen when the son was only 14 years old if he persisted-his son and my son were the same age. Every rejection came back with the same reason. (You have Unresolved Issues with MINDEF. Get them sorted out first and then reapply). I retired from the company 6 months before covid after 15 years with them. We created a new Company in Myanmar and made him the MD of that company where's he been since around 2018. He can still come to Singapore on a Standard Tourist Visa, but they will not extend it. ICA and MOM have VERY LONG MEMORIES.

Basically, you appear to be creating a way of avoiding your daughter becoming a Baby Oven for the Singapore Military. While there is nothing wrong in what she has done, it probably appears to ICA that you had ulterior motives. What isn't obvious in your ample data provided is whether or not she has PR considering she was in the international school.

As a side note, With regard to volunteering with the GRC, only do so if it is something you feel strongly about, and not as a way to gain brownie points as it is no long a benefit. Certain nationalities here burned those bridges a dozen years ago in their quests to gain PR and/or SGC by volunteering with the various government link or religious groups then leaving shortly after gaining their PR/SGC. Now it doesn't mean anything to ICA at all so only do it if is something you WANT to do. (I've been a PR since 1995 but I joined the Resident Committee in 2009 and have been with them for 16 years and have been an office holder for the past 14 years. But I didn't join it for any reason other than to help my estate and our residents (I am also an anomaly in as much as I'm a Caucasian (Yank) so I kind of stand out in functions.

But, at the end of the day, continue to apply and do NOT use agencies or lawyers as I can tell you that it turns them off at ICA (I was originally rejected for my PR with a Singapore wife and 2 Singapore born children in public schools.) I made the mistake of applying via a lawyer in 1988 (this was long before online applications). After I did get PR in 1995, about 10 years later I ran into the ICA officer who interviewed me in 95 at the SICC at a Xmas party. He gave me a lot of low downs on the way they think.

[Opalescent]

Thank you so much for your detailed reply.
My daughter has been a PR with us ever since 2006. All three of us have PR status. The reason we enrolled her in International School from beginning is that we did not think too deeply into it and just sent her since all our friends kids went there. Some of her friends who also studied there have got citizenship with their parents, while we were being rejected. My daughter, now 22 is also applying independantly for SC now and having grown up here since she was 2.5 years old has heart set up on Singapore - she is impatient to finish her graduation in US and return back home. Each holiday she has returned she has expressed how she misses being here. This is what happens some mistakes made by people earlier can colour the opinions for others. No choice. I am a senior lecturer in healthcare and teach frontline workers. Husband is in high post- we pay heavy taxes. We all want to really belong here. Well, if they still reject us we will keep applying until they ' die die ' must give us. ( the local lingo that is like second skin to us as it conveys our thoughts correctly) . Praying for a miracle that atleast they approve my 22 year old daughter's SC as we know how much she loves Singapore and would hate to see her heart broken. Praying to the Universe to set this right for us. Thanks.

[Opalescent]

@sundaymorningstaple to add on as I forgt to answer some queries.
I love volunteering and often take my poly students on youth expedition programmes. My daughter is grown up and I can use my time productively working for my GRC- it will give me a sense of fulfillment. I did not plan to do it just for my SC - have been exploring it for years now and now finding a way in. This year I saw a banner asking people to join and I immediately responded.
I can only continue doing what I believe in, cannot help if ICA looks at that as something for getting SC. It does not really matter ; as long as I stay here I will continue doing what I beleive in. Hopefully they will keep renewing my REP every 5 years. And yes, I will keep applying. Someone suggested to attach my MP's appeal letter - will it help? Thanks