From what you wrote above it appears you know each other for a very short time and met only during some single visit of yours to Thailand. I would expect this could be the main reason for the disapproval.visionaryz wrote: ↑Sat, 29 Apr 2023 4:47 amHi Everyone,
I have been reading the forum quietly for the past 1 month while waiting for me and my future wife (thai) PMLA assessment approval.
Background of situation;
1. SC (Chinese), 34 this year
2. Working for the past 11 years in the telecommunicaion sector
3. Average monthly pay 9-10k/mth (Basic & commission based with commission liable for cpf deduction). Basic pay is 6.5k/mth
4. Spouse to be : Thai nationality, 32 this year
5. We have known each other for more than a year during my trip to bangkok back in 2022.
6. She is not working at the moment.
Issue:
We have applied for PMLA on 10th April 2023 and recieved the result on 28th April 2023 that it is not successful. I’m puzzled by the approval criteria set by ICA as i have seen many cases that was approved (I think sometimes luck play a huge part).
Question:
1. Can i apply the PLMA the 2nd time and show past 2 years income assessment to prove that i have the ability to support her as a sponsor?
2. I personally have a applied BTO (4 room) under family scheme (together with my mum as she is widowed) and the house will be ready by end of Q4 2023. Does it help in the assessment criteria and i can show that i already have a flat for both me and my future spouse?
3. We have booked our ROM in this coming August 18th 2023, if the PMLA doesn’t approve for the second time then should i go ahead with the ROM then apply LTVP? (In this case to ignore the PMLA as there are few cases that even though PMLA was rejected but LTVP was approved.
Me and my spouse are really devastated upon recieving the rejection email and we do not know what we can do next. Thank you everyone in advance for any advices.
1. It would be better if she has a reasonably paid job and the fact she can sustain herself allowing her living on preferably above average level is clear.visionaryz wrote: ↑Sat, 29 Apr 2023 11:24 pmThanks malcontent for the inputs!
1) your advice will be to ask her to get a job in bangkok first so that her profile will look better? Our plan will be for her to do some home based business or manage an online store when she come into Singapore?
2) Just curious, many people comment that PMLA/LTVP solely depends on the sponsor’s ability, how true is this to a certain extend?
3) She has around 6-7k SGD savings in her own bank account, she lives alone in Bangkok and not in contact with her mum as her mum re-marry after her dad passed away when she is very young. She is closer to her aunt that is staying in bangkok.
4) We discussed about sin sod and she is not very interested as she mention she is not very close with her family. The decision to be together and get married will be solely based on us. My family members (mum and sister) have met her before and approved our relationship of being together.
visionaryz wrote: ↑Sat, 29 Apr 2023 10:29 amThanks x9200 for the quick reply!
1. I have travel to bangkok a few times to meet her and we even travelled to taiwan during our 1st year anniversary. We have been seeing each other quite often throughout the past 1 year and spending time together. I am curious how ICA will determine and assume that being together for a short time dictate the main reason of rejection. Even in Singapore there are couples who just met each other for 1-2 months then get married for a very long time(just sharing my thoughts).
2. Is there anyway to prove to ICA that this is not a marriage of convenience because as a sponsor with a good track records will not want to break the law and get into such involvement.
3. The reason why we indicate she is not working but she manage an online store that have enough money for her every month.
4. She has not been to Singapore before and I am planning to bring her somewhere in the middle of May. I initially thought that with the PMLA approval it will be easier for her to come as I read online there as many instances whereby Thai ladies have been profile by ICA that they are coming Singapore to work.
I wonder during the PMLA do the officer check my income and qualifications etc before rejecting the application? If not why we have cases whereby PMLA not successful but during LTVP application where they ask for proof of income then it gets approved?
Really appreciate everyone’s input and advices as I know it will help so much!
It doesn’t have to be a job, but she should have an income source. You said she lives alone in Bangkok… how can she afford that without any income? Why isn’t she staying together with her aunt? She has 6-7k SGD savings, where did it come from?visionaryz wrote: ↑Sat, 29 Apr 2023 11:24 pmThanks malcontent for the inputs!
1) your advice will be to ask her to get a job in bangkok first so that her profile will look better? Our plan will be for her to do some home based business or manage an online store when she come into Singapore?
2) Just curious, many people comment that PMLA/LTVP solely depends on the sponsor’s ability, how true is this to a certain extend?
3) She has around 6-7k SGD savings in her own bank account, she lives alone in Bangkok and not in contact with her mum as her mum re-marry after her dad passed away when she is very young. She is closer to her aunt that is staying in bangkok.
4) We discussed about sin sod and she is not very interested as she mention she is not very close with her family. The decision to be together and get married will be solely based on us. My family members (mum and sister) have met her before and approved our relationship of being together.
Hi, the similarities I see is between our spouse's income & education level.visionaryz wrote: ↑Mon, 01 May 2023 4:13 am
@GTR1307 thanks bro for the inputs.
1) understand your situation and mine is somehow similar, did you apply PMLA and not successful? What is the next steps you took?
2) she did not have any sponsor that did any application of visa. I’m her first Singapore boyfriend and now we are in the midst of planning our marriage. I do plan to bring her to visit Singapore somewhere in Mid May but i am afraid ICA will reject her entry. Can anyone share any inputs on this?
That’s because the US requests that. SG does not. And with current technology, these can be deepfaked.malcontent wrote: ↑Mon, 01 May 2023 11:29 amI don’t know how Singapore evaluates the risks of marriage of convenience, but I helped my brother get his Filipino gf a K1 visa to bring her to the US and get married.
What we submitted in his case was a history of chats all the way back from the beginning - not all of them, but selected ones over time to show consistency. He also bought her some things and shipped it to her - we included proof of that. For the times they met, we included air tickets, photos together plus with family. They also included a signed statement that explained how they met, how their relationship evolved and how they had been in continuous daily contact, etc.
Agree, and the US has a 2 year probationary period (conditional green card), during which they can revoke and send the spouse packing. It’s not perfect, but there are safeguards.MOCHS wrote: ↑Mon, 01 May 2023 3:52 pmThat’s because the US requests that. SG does not. And with current technology, these can be deepfaked.malcontent wrote: ↑Mon, 01 May 2023 11:29 amI don’t know how Singapore evaluates the risks of marriage of convenience, but I helped my brother get his Filipino gf a K1 visa to bring her to the US and get married.
What we submitted in his case was a history of chats all the way back from the beginning - not all of them, but selected ones over time to show consistency. He also bought her some things and shipped it to her - we included proof of that. For the times they met, we included air tickets, photos together plus with family. They also included a signed statement that explained how they met, how their relationship evolved and how they had been in continuous daily contact, etc.
I can imagine ICA maybe looking through the social media pages for proof of relationship? I know US customs did look through my LinkedIn profile just before my global entry interview with them and I did not list any social media accounts on the application form. They can search for you if they want to.
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