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PR chances 2023

Post by Pfr346 » Fri, 28 Apr 2023 1:31 pm

Posting for a friend. Chances of PR success?
Nationality: British
Race: Chinese male + Caucasian female couple with 2 boys
Age: 36, 34, 8, 3
Education: Bachelors in medical field, wife has diploma in medical science
Time in SG: 2.5 years
Occupation: medical + housewife
Basic Salary: 25k per month+ wife is not working.
Pass level: E Pass
Background: over 10 years work experience.

Can mixed race kids count as part of Chinese quota?

Thank you

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Re: PR chances 2023

Post by malcontent » Fri, 28 Apr 2023 3:15 pm

Pfr346 wrote:
Fri, 28 Apr 2023 1:31 pm
Posting for a friend. Chances of PR success?
Nationality: British
Race: Chinese male + Caucasian female couple with 2 boys
Age: 36, 34, 8, 3
Education: Bachelors in medical field, wife has diploma in medical science
Time in SG: 2.5 years
Occupation: medical + housewife
Basic Salary: 25k per month+ wife is not working.
Pass level: E Pass
Background: over 10 years work experience.

Can mixed race kids count as part of Chinese quota?

Thank you
Do they intend to send their boys to NS?
Are we talking British Born Chinese?
What school is the 8yo boy attending?

By default, mixed race kids take the race of the father. However, on the application they have to fill out the race of their children - so they can put whatever race they feel is most appropriate. The options for mixed race kids here (hyphenated, etc.) are well documented.

Others can correct me if I am wrong, but if they were to list the kids’ race as Chinese-Caucasian, I believe that only the first race listed counts.
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Re: PR chances 2023

Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 28 Apr 2023 6:44 pm

I thought that you have to pick one to be used on official documents...

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Re: PR chances 2023

Post by malcontent » Fri, 28 Apr 2023 7:35 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Fri, 28 Apr 2023 6:44 pm
I thought that you have to pick one to be used on official documents...
Once they ask, then yes… like for my PR daughter, I picked Eurasian. I know that choice is controversial — historically Eurasians here have their own sub-culture. But the way I see it… Chinese from China are also culturally very different than local Chinese - - try telling them they can’t put Chinese as their race! I consider my daughter a neo-Eurasian (not the devil’s curry eating kind). Ethnically, the shoe fits; she can make her own history.

However, for my son he has never been asked for his race because he is still on DP. When I check his DP in Singpass, it says Caucasian. I never picked that, they just defaulted it from the father on his birth cert.
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Re: PR chances 2023

Post by Pfr346 » Sat, 29 Apr 2023 10:18 pm

Oh great. So they can select Chinese race for their kids. But it will be a disadvantage that one is a causasian. Is it possible they will accept 3 and reject 1 application, even if they apply all together?

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Re: PR chances 2023

Post by malcontent » Sat, 29 Apr 2023 11:10 pm

Pfr346 wrote:
Sat, 29 Apr 2023 10:18 pm
Oh great. So they can select Chinese race for their kids. But it will be a disadvantage that one is a causasian. Is it possible they will accept 3 and reject 1 application, even if they apply all together?
You are reading way too much into the idea that Chinese race is some all important box to tick on PR applications. You are looking at the process far too simplistically.

The couple is British, first and foremost, that will be the first consideration. It is highly probable that they would have zero advantage over any other British couple. There is more to being Chinese than ticking a box.
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Re: PR chances 2023

Post by Pfr346 » Sun, 30 Apr 2023 7:06 pm

So how would you estimate their chances? Good/bad/50/50 : D

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Re: PR chances 2023

Post by malcontent » Sun, 30 Apr 2023 7:34 pm

Pfr346 wrote:
Sun, 30 Apr 2023 7:06 pm
So how would you estimate their chances? Good/bad/50/50 : D
I doubt that anyone can answer that with any level of accuracy. The number of PRs granted at any given time varies based on the needs of the country. Sometimes the seemingly perfect candidate gets rejected. Happens all the time.

Their time in SG is short, but he is earning in the top 10% of all EP holders in a desirable field. If they intend to sink roots here and want PR they should just apply. No need to ask about their chances - if unsuccessful, wait 2 years and try again.
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Re: PR chances 2023

Post by Pfr346 » Mon, 01 May 2023 4:57 pm

Thank you. That is great advice.

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