Not sure whether to renounce citizenship yet

[sundaymorningstaple]

For minors that received SC by descent or registration, they need to take the Oath (ORAL) after turning 21 years old (and before they turn 22 years old). That is clear in 122(4) and 126(3) of the Constitution.

For minors that obtained SC by birth and foreign by descent (or possibly birth depending on how the birth certificate was issued), you need to read 134(1)(a), 135(1)(a)-(b), 135(2) of the Constitution. 134 deals with acquiring or retaining a foreign citizenship after the age of 18 and 135 deals with the exercise of rights of foreign nationals.

She was born in Singapore, and acquired American citizenship by descent, so she falls in to the second group.

Yeah, that was changed by the US sometime after 1989 when my 2nd child was born. Both of my children were dual citizens by birth in both countries when they were born here. The heading of her US Birth Cert is entitled:
"Certification of Birth Abroad of a Citizen
of the United States of America"

[Lisafuller]

For minors that received SC by descent or registration, they need to take the Oath (ORAL) after turning 21 years old (and before they turn 22 years old). That is clear in 122(4) and 126(3) of the Constitution.

For minors that obtained SC by birth and foreign by descent (or possibly birth depending on how the birth certificate was issued), you need to read 134(1)(a), 135(1)(a)-(b), 135(2) of the Constitution. 134 deals with acquiring or retaining a foreign citizenship after the age of 18 and 135 deals with the exercise of rights of foreign nationals.

She was born in Singapore, and acquired American citizenship by descent, so she falls in to the second group.

Yeah, that was changed by the US sometime after 1989 when my 2nd child was born. Both of my children were dual citizens by birth in both countries when they were born here. The heading of her US Birth Cert is entitled:
"Certification of Birth Abroad of a Citizen
of the United States of America"

Have they retained both citizenships? If not, which one did they pick?

[sundaymorningstaple]

No idea, I timed their renewing of their US passports so ultimately I renewed them just before the age of 21 (10 Yr PPs). As far as I know they have never advertised the fact that they are USC but what they did after the age of 30 I don't know and I don't ask. Obviously they kept their SGC which is their prerogative and I don't blame them, both have married local spouses - one native born - the other got his SGC while doing his NS because MINdef wanted to put him in OCS so he took it and became a Training Capt on P.Tekong. His parents are still PR's like me and have been here over 30 years.

[Lisafuller]

No idea, I timed their renewing of their US passports so ultimately I renewed them just before the age of 21 (10 Yr PPs). As far as I know they have never advertised the fact that they are USC but what they did after the age of 30 I don't know and I don't ask. Obviously they kept their SGC which is their prerogative and I don't blame them, both have married local spouses - one native born - the other got his SGC while doing his NS because MINdef wanted to put him in OCS so he took it and became a Training Capt on P.Tekong. His parents are still PR's like me and have been here over 30 years.

My daughter will soon be in the same position, and like you, I won't ask about her decision

On the off chance that someone gets discovered as holding dual citizenship, what are the repercussions?

[sundaymorningstaple]

I think they will give them the choice and they will have to go one way or the other. Depending on how long they have been living and where will certainly help on that point. I know my kids will opt for local citizenship and frankly I don't blame them. In fact, as I'm now retired, should I decide to give up my USC they will be acting as my sponsors which is, as I understand it, easily doable especially seeing I've already give 40 years of my life to this country. They've only visited the US. They've never actually lived there.

[Lisafuller]

I think they will give them the choice and they will have to go one way or the other. Depending on how long they have been living and where will certainly help on that point. I know my kids will opt for local citizenship and frankly I don't blame them. In fact, as I'm now retired, should I decide to give up my USC they will be acting as my sponsors which is, as I understand it, easily doable especially seeing I've already give 40 years of my life to this country. They've only visited the US. They've never actually lived there.

I'm actually not sure where my daughter will end up picking if forced to choose. She's lived in SG her whole life, but has gone back to the US for two months out of the year every year since birth (excluding Covid). Even though she's gone to local schools all her life, she still sounds completely American, and is very well read on US history and familiar with current events. At the same time, I know she has a soft spot for Singapore, so I really don't know what it'll be.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Well, As I've often told my kids when they were still kids until they married, You have to make your own bed in this life and YOU have to sleep in it so don't grab the cheapest or prettiest mattress as it could get really lumpy later. I've always told them I cannot live your lives for you and I cannot tell you what to do or if your way or decision is better than mine (doG knows I've made my share of mistakes along the way!). I can only offer advice which you will take or not. So far they are doing okay. and by mid-July I should have 4 grandkids! The odds of me staying here are pretty good, but SGC is still an up in the air question.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Affairs of the heart will make her decision eventually. On whichever side of the Big Pond it is.

[jalanjalan]

Affairs of the heart will make her decision eventually. On whichever side of the Big Pond it is.

When I met first my spouse back in the early 90s, I didn't know where Singapore was - I had a vague notion it was somewhere near Thailand. I had to look it up in the encyclopedia (no google then). You never know where life is going to take you

[malcontent]

I’ve lived over half of my life here, my kids have lived their entire lives here and my wife nearly her whole life (since early primary). Yet none of us are citizens and I am still on EP.

Singapore looks at it through a WIFM lens, so I have always felt compelled to do the same. I don’t blame her, but I am not under any illusions either. I think everyone has to look out for #1 and use your head rather than your heart. Just my two cents.

[malcontent]

Affairs of the heart will make her decision eventually. On whichever side of the Big Pond it is.

When I met first my spouse back in the early 90s, I didn't know where Singapore was - I had a vague notion it was somewhere near Thailand. I had to look it up in the encyclopedia (no google then). You never know where life is going to take you

You and I both - met my spouse in 1992 in the US while in college. I still remember her asking me if I knew where Singapore was, and my response was “somewhere in the orient” . Really have to laugh thinking back on it.