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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by jalanjalan » Wed, 03 May 2023 6:28 pm

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I fully support the zero tolerance stand that Singapore has on drugs. However, if someone stuffs something in a zipped pouch of my luggage… I might become an unsuspecting mule on death row — that is a concern.
Do you really think that's likely, in the land of 100k cameras? :wink:

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by jalanjalan » Wed, 03 May 2023 6:29 pm

tiktok wrote:
Wed, 03 May 2023 6:26 pm
It's a government website - cannot be trusted.
Yes it can.

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by tiktok » Wed, 03 May 2023 6:36 pm

Do you trust the government to tell you exactly what happened in Operation Coldstore too?
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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by NYY1 » Wed, 03 May 2023 6:42 pm

malcontent wrote:
Wed, 03 May 2023 1:42 pm
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The worst part of it all - she won’t even get proper credit for it. Because an A in Singapore is so hard to get, it is wasted effort when she goes outside Singapore, college admissions view easy A or a hard A as equal. Grade inflation around the world is making lesser students appear to be her equals. I know grades aren’t everything, but if you knew the amount of time and dedication she put into it… she has no life, and now it feels like it was all for nothing.
The last part is a challenge and I started to detect this among various kids over the past couple of years (that had finished). Regardless of which school the kids are in and whether the target is Oxbridge, Ivys(+), local medicine, etc, some very hard working and very talented kids won’t get what they want. Unfortunately, it’s a simple imbalance between too few vacancies and too many applicants.

If it’s any consolation, the story is the same in the US. I think there are schools there that can go toe to toe with the IP schools here in terms of curriculum and what not (they may cost US$40,000 – US$60,000 per year though), and not even they can get everyone to where they want to go (maybe 30% - 40% of the cohort to Top 20/30 in some places). The student life/experience may be somewhat different (although I believe it’s less different than you’d think), but the end result is the same; unfortunately some have to move forward with Plan B.

You guys are pretty close to the end, but the sooner one accepts this the easier it is to deal with.

Option 1: know you may not get what you want/be prepared to go with a reasonable backup, and be really happy if the letters come back favourably.

Option 2: complain that something isn’t fair, be upset, and try again (which may or may not work).

Even if one sticks with Option 2 and gets lucky, in some ways the problem isn't really solved. So you get in to wherever, but what happens when you can't get the Tier 1 jobs after uni, etc? At some point, there can't be so much riding on the mere fact of winning or obtaining what is of the highest social status (among your current peers).

The good thing is your kid seems reasonably bright and hard working. There’s always been a place for those people to excel in the US. Good luck.

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by malcontent » Wed, 03 May 2023 6:42 pm

Love this interview:

https://youtu.be/-PXAOZwvv04
It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows - Epictetus

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by x9200 » Wed, 03 May 2023 6:57 pm

tiktok wrote:
Wed, 03 May 2023 5:34 pm
Requires clarification, yes.
32% support mandatory death penalty for drug trafficking (what Singapore has).
54% support discretionary death penalty for drug trafficking.

And "likely guilty" is not a high enough bar for taking someone's life. Mistakes will always be made, especially with low educated drug mules.
Drug trafficking - 86.9% support. C'man, hard to believe you don't see what is in this table? You expect that those who support mandatory penalty opt for no death penalty if mandatory penalty is not in place?
And "likely guilty" is not a high enough bar for taking someone's life.
Pity you don't offer the same empathy for the victims. Better 100 dead from drugs each year than one low educated mule in 10 years.
Yes, mistakes are going to happen. Mistakes happen all around us causing people to die. I see it not too different from the law related mistakes. Shall we ban people from driving (for example)?

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by tiktok » Wed, 03 May 2023 7:04 pm

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Can't be bothered to figure out how to post an image on this retarded site.

Anyway 86.9% is number of people who agree with the death penalty in general for drug trafficking.

When the questions are more specific, i.e people give it a second thought, the numbers are much lower.
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Wed, 03 May 2023 6:57 pm
Pity you don't offer the same empathy for the victims. Better 100 dead from drugs each year than one low educated mule in 10 years.
Yes, mistakes are going to happen. Mistakes happen all around us causing people to die. I see it not too different from the law related mistakes. Shall we ban people from driving (for example)?
You make it sound like people are so malleable that they'll take any substance on offer and overdose on it. Frankly if someone is that stupid they will be doing humanity a favour.

Mind you, this is the way most Singaporeans lap up government misinformation, so there would be a lot of drug deaths. The PAP voter base would be depleted.
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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by x9200 » Wed, 03 May 2023 7:17 pm

jalanjalan wrote:
Wed, 03 May 2023 6:28 pm
malcontent wrote:
Wed, 03 May 2023 5:41 pm
I fully support the zero tolerance stand that Singapore has on drugs. However, if someone stuffs something in a zipped pouch of my luggage… I might become an unsuspecting mule on death row — that is a concern.
Do you really think that's likely, in the land of 100k cameras? :wink:
I know it happens, but is there any known case in Singapore where someone maintained his innocence and got executed? I mean the case with some reasonable doubts? I think it takes more than some pouches with drugs to end up on gallows.

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by tiktok » Wed, 03 May 2023 7:38 pm

The guy who just got executed never even touched the drugs and maintained his innocence to the end.
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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by x9200 » Wed, 03 May 2023 7:41 pm

tiktok wrote:
Wed, 03 May 2023 7:04 pm
x9200 wrote:
Wed, 03 May 2023 6:57 pm
Pity you don't offer the same empathy for the victims. Better 100 dead from drugs each year than one low educated mule in 10 years.
Yes, mistakes are going to happen. Mistakes happen all around us causing people to die. I see it not too different from the law related mistakes. Shall we ban people from driving (for example)?
You make it sound like people are so malleable that they'll take any substance on offer and overdose on it. Frankly if someone is that stupid they will be doing humanity a favour.
But when it comes to the drug traffickers, low educated mules and such, the same logic does not apply. Right.

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by tiktok » Wed, 03 May 2023 7:48 pm

Exactly, guess what, every situation is different. If someone makes the choice to self harm nobody can stop them. Taking drugs is always a choice. Do you think you'll be irresistibly drawn to stick a needle in you arm if you get too close to some heroin?

Very different than some uneducated gullible fool trying to make a quick buck.
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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by x9200 » Wed, 03 May 2023 7:56 pm

tiktok wrote:
Wed, 03 May 2023 7:38 pm
The guy who just got executed never even touched the drugs and maintained his innocence to the end.
Beyond reasonable doubts?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution ... ju_Suppiah

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by x9200 » Wed, 03 May 2023 8:02 pm

tiktok wrote:
Wed, 03 May 2023 7:48 pm
Exactly, guess what, every situation is different. If someone makes the choice to self harm nobody can stop them. Taking drugs is always a choice. Do you think you'll be irresistibly drawn to stick a needle in you arm if you get too close to some heroin?

Very different than some uneducated gullible fool trying to make a quick buck.
He has no choice? Was forced?
Nobody takes drugs with the intention of harming himself or herself. Most of the victims think they would not get addicted. Some were looking for solution to their problems. You are saying that a need for quick buck is more noble and justifying?

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by jalanjalan » Wed, 03 May 2023 8:12 pm

and then there's the issue of kids getting their hands on drugs. From today's ST:

"She took cannabis when she was 12 years old, attended drug parties for three years and got hooked on heroin after her boyfriend introduced it to her."
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ ... ug-abusers

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by tiktok » Wed, 03 May 2023 8:13 pm

I've been offered hard drugs and always said no. Even at the age of 16. Thinking you're not going to get addicted is stupid. Thinking it's a solution to your problems is stupid.

Anyway I don't even support legalising hard drugs. Cannabis is not a card hard drug. And Singapore executes people over it. That's stupid.
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