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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by tiktok » Wed, 29 Mar 2023 9:45 pm

https://theindependent.sg/singapore-res ... re-of-rna/

Headline: Singapore researchers develop AI-based method to reveal molecular architecture of RNA

A totally wrong summary of the work which is more about using AI to predict changes in AI. The "molecular architecture" of RNA has been known for many decades. And the jingoism "Singapore researchers" is probably misleading when the researchers names are Hendra, Pratanwanich, and Göke.
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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by Lisafuller » Thu, 30 Mar 2023 3:02 am

They like to play with words, a singapore researcher (to them) refers to any researcher on SG soil.

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 30 Mar 2023 5:07 pm

Original researchers here also included Raffles (Sir), Marshall, and a host of others with Malay, Indian, Israeli, Armenian and other names from around the world who made this island home. Just look at the streets named after them. Just like my family name is growing here. was only me when I arrived on these shores. now there are half a dozen here.
All can be researchers.
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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by tiktok » Thu, 30 Mar 2023 5:52 pm

Of course, but the probability of someone named Göke living in Singapore not being a Singaporean is high.
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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by Lisafuller » Thu, 30 Mar 2023 7:25 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Thu, 30 Mar 2023 5:07 pm
Original researchers here also included Raffles (Sir), Marshall, and a host of others with Malay, Indian, Israeli, Armenian and other names from around the world who made this island home. Just look at the streets named after them. Just like my family name is growing here. was only me when I arrived on these shores. now there are half a dozen here.
All can be researchers.
I just think it's odd that all the names seem foreign, not just one out of many local names.

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by Lisafuller » Thu, 30 Mar 2023 7:25 pm

tiktok wrote:
Thu, 30 Mar 2023 5:52 pm
Of course, but the probability of someone named Göke living in Singapore not being a Singaporean is high.
Really? I've met 5 Gökes in my condo alone.

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by tiktok » Thu, 30 Mar 2023 8:40 pm

Maybe one of them co-wrote the paper! Ask them if they're a citizen ;)
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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 31 Mar 2023 12:46 am

They could be PRs. For jingoism PR is as good as a SGC.
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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 31 Mar 2023 12:49 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Fri, 31 Mar 2023 12:46 am
They could be PRs. For jingoism PR is as good as a SGC.
Not wrong, they didn't use the word Singaporeans, but rather Singapore so there technically is no issue with misrepresentation there.

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 31 Mar 2023 12:50 am

tiktok wrote:
Thu, 30 Mar 2023 8:40 pm
Maybe one of them co-wrote the paper! Ask them if they're a citizen ;)
LOL! :P

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by Kimmig » Thu, 06 Apr 2023 1:34 am

tiktok wrote:
Wed, 29 Mar 2023 9:45 pm
https://theindependent.sg/singapore-res ... re-of-rna/

Headline: Singapore researchers develop AI-based method to reveal molecular architecture of RNA

A totally wrong summary of the work which is more about using AI to predict changes in AI. The "molecular architecture" of RNA has been known for many decades. And the jingoism "Singapore researchers" is probably misleading when the researchers names are Hendra, Pratanwanich, and Göke.
Another proof of how careful we have to be with articles from the internet. There are many wrong interpretations, fake news and half-knowledge people who think they know it all. Usually I try to find 2 or more sources for one astonishing news in order to check if the text is true. Anyways I love how powerful AI became and what cool results it can deliver us.

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by x9200 » Thu, 06 Apr 2023 7:43 am

tiktok wrote:
Wed, 29 Mar 2023 9:45 pm
https://theindependent.sg/singapore-res ... re-of-rna/

Headline: Singapore researchers develop AI-based method to reveal molecular architecture of RNA

A totally wrong summary of the work which is more about using AI to predict changes in AI. The "molecular architecture" of RNA has been known for many decades.
You mean double helix structure?

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by tiktok » Thu, 06 Apr 2023 7:53 am

That's DNA, not RNA. RNA has a single helix structure.
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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by x9200 » Thu, 06 Apr 2023 8:09 am

tiktok wrote:
Thu, 30 Mar 2023 5:52 pm
Of course, but the probability of someone named Göke living in Singapore not being a Singaporean is high.
I don't see the names in the article so can not check within the context, but it seems fair generalization. It is always a team work and even if those mentioned above are not true-blue Singaporeans I am very sure many Singaporeans contributed some way to this very research.

Also, the wording is Singapore researchers not Singaporean researchers. Compare for example Apple, Philips, Pfizer researchers.

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Re: Stupid news articles

Post by x9200 » Thu, 06 Apr 2023 8:22 am

tiktok wrote:
Thu, 06 Apr 2023 7:53 am
That's DNA, not RNA. RNA has a single helix structure.
Nope, not really. RNA has zillions of different structures including double helix, so I simply wonder what is in your opinion known for X0 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA

To cut this short, for me this article looks pretty credible. There are some simplifications as this is stuff for general public, but I don't see anything that is obviously wrong. Including the summary.

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