PR Application Chances - 2023

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PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by djwatch92 » Sun, 05 Feb 2023 12:42 pm

Hello. I have been living / working in Singapore since Jan 2020. Below is my profile:

Ethnicity: Malaysian Chinese
Education: CFA Charterholder and Bachelor's Degree
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Visa: EP, Investment Manager
Salary: - > SGD100K p.a. + Variable bonus
Employer: Singapore GLC
Total work experience: 9 years overall, 25 months in SG

I applied for my PR in Aug 2020, which on hindsight is likely a mistake given the general advice I've seen on the forums is > 24 months (EP renewal). I also joined my current company (Singapore GLC) in Jun 2021, given that the role had a significant salary increase and upward career advancement (i.e. more responsibilities, better opportunities). One other unique fact was that I was born in Singapore (under a dependent pass as my parents were then PRs, then moved back to Malaysia when I was 2 - unsure if this is a negative factor).

Appreciate any input / advice on my case. Current status of PR is still pending. Would just like to primarily understand if it's just a waiting game, as from what I have gathered here, my profile is generally quite good.

Thanks and have a great Sunday!

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Re: PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by MOCHS » Sun, 05 Feb 2023 3:39 pm

Isn’t any male offspring of a PR liable for NS? Sounds like you did not do NS which could be an issue… Unless the rules were different 30 years ago?

Also, you mentioned you applied PR in 2020… are you still waiting for a result or you got rejected?

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Re: PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by djwatch92 » Sun, 05 Feb 2023 4:08 pm

Hi,

Based on my understanding and conversation with ICA, I was under LTVP and not automatically a PR from birth. I would have been required to register for NS at age 16. My parents would have been required to separately apply for a PR for me, subject to approval as per the usual process. My parents moved back to Malaysia so obtaining a PR was not an option at all for me then.

Current PR application submitted in 2020 is still pending. My thought process was if it was an issue I would have either been rejected or hauled up by the ICA for not enlisting in NS. I also don't think they would have granted me my EP as well.

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Re: PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by singaporeflyer » Sun, 05 Feb 2023 5:05 pm

MOCHS wrote:
Sun, 05 Feb 2023 3:39 pm
Isn’t any male offspring of a PR liable for NS? Sounds like you did not do NS which could be an issue… Unless the rules were different 30 years ago?

Also, you mentioned you applied PR in 2020… are you still waiting for a result or you got rejected?
If male kid is born after the parents were given PR, they still need to get LTVP or apply for PR for the kid. Kid does not automatically get PR or is not guaranteed a PR if applied too.

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Re: PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by singaporeflyer » Sun, 05 Feb 2023 5:07 pm

djwatch92 wrote:
Sun, 05 Feb 2023 4:08 pm
Hi,

Based on my understanding and conversation with ICA, I was under LTVP and not automatically a PR from birth. I would have been required to register for NS at age 16. My parents would have been required to separately apply for a PR for me, subject to approval as per the usual process. My parents moved back to Malaysia so obtaining a PR was not an option at all for me then.

Current PR application submitted in 2020 is still pending. My thought process was if it was an issue I would have either been rejected or hauled up by the ICA for not enlisting in NS. I also don't think they would have granted me my EP as well.
If you were only on LTVP and never on PR, you would not have to do NS is my understanding. So, please check if you were ever a PR or always on LTVP.

When in 2020 did you move to SG and when did you submit your PR?

If you were only on LTVP in the past, I think you have a more than decent chance of getting PR now. It is just matter of time.

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Re: PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by djwatch92 » Sun, 05 Feb 2023 6:11 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Sun, 05 Feb 2023 5:07 pm
djwatch92 wrote:
Sun, 05 Feb 2023 4:08 pm
Hi,

Based on my understanding and conversation with ICA, I was under LTVP and not automatically a PR from birth. I would have been required to register for NS at age 16. My parents would have been required to separately apply for a PR for me, subject to approval as per the usual process. My parents moved back to Malaysia so obtaining a PR was not an option at all for me then.

Current PR application submitted in 2020 is still pending. My thought process was if it was an issue I would have either been rejected or hauled up by the ICA for not enlisting in NS. I also don't think they would have granted me my EP as well.
If you were only on LTVP and never on PR, you would not have to do NS is my understanding. So, please check if you were ever a PR or always on LTVP.

When in 2020 did you move to SG and when did you submit your PR?

If you were only on LTVP in the past, I think you have a more than decent chance of getting PR now. It is just matter of time.
Hi, thanks for the response.

I was only under LTVP, never previously a PR.

I moved in SG in Jan 2020. PR application was submitted in Aug 2020 (which on hindsight, was too early, but what is done is done).

Current status of PR application is still pending.

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Re: PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by djwatch92 » Mon, 06 Feb 2023 4:40 pm

Hi,

Just a quick edit to the timeline of events for proper reference (got my years mixed up, the pandemic has thrown me for a loop):

Jan 2021 - Started working in SG
Aug 2021 - PR application submitted
Jun 2022 - Started new job at Singapore GLC
Feb 2023 - PR application status still pending

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Re: PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by Shilabitsz » Thu, 09 Feb 2023 9:39 pm

Hi, everyone. I was wondering what my chances for PR could be. Here is my profile:

Nationality: Brazilian
Race: Caucasian
Age: 36
Education: PhD in Economics at SMU
Occupation: Research Fellow / Postdoc.
Current Pass type: S-Pass (previously on a student visa while doing PhD at SMU)
Living in Singapore since 2018
Unmarried, no children, but getting married in July this year to my Singaporean Chinese fiancee.

Since I am not married yet, I plan to apply on a PTS scheme. From what I hear, being a Brazilian / Caucasian is very unfavorable, but hopefully my education here can help. I was wondering if my occupation as an academic would impact (either positively or negatively) my chances. Also, should I include referral letters / testimonials on my application? I have a good number of friends and work colleagues here, and my fiancee is insisting that I should get them to write letters for me.

Thank you very much in advance for any helpful comments!

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Re: PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 09 Feb 2023 11:38 pm

Shilabitsz wrote:
Thu, 09 Feb 2023 9:39 pm
Hi, everyone. I was wondering what my chances for PR could be. Here is my profile:

Nationality: Brazilian
Race: Caucasian
Age: 36
Education: PhD in Economics at SMU
Occupation: Research Fellow / Postdoc.
Current Pass type: S-Pass (previously on a student visa while doing PhD at SMU)
Living in Singapore since 2018
Unmarried, no children, but getting married in July this year to my Singaporean Chinese fiancee.

Since I am not married yet, I plan to apply on a PTS scheme. From what I hear, being a Brazilian / Caucasian is very unfavorable, but hopefully my education here can help. I was wondering if my occupation as an academic would impact (either positively or negatively) my chances. Also, should I include referral letters / testimonials on my application? I have a good number of friends and work colleagues here, and my fiancee is insisting that I should get them to write letters for me.

Thank you very much in advance for any helpful comments!
If you are on S Pass along with the ethnic Quota very low or nil chance. Apply 2 years after marriage. Why the rush ?

Friends or colleagues testimonials will be of no use.

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Re: PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by MOCHS » Thu, 09 Feb 2023 11:57 pm

Shilabitsz wrote:
Thu, 09 Feb 2023 9:39 pm
getting married in July this year to my Singaporean Chinese fiancee.



my fiancee is insisting that I should get them to write letters for me.
Don’t bother wasting money and applying via PTS while you are single. You will definitely be rejected due to marital status and ethnic quota.

Marry your fiancée and get her to sponsor you via family ties scheme after two years of marriage. If she is of child bearing age (below 35), the government will want her to give birth to the next generation instead of losing her overseas.

Many Singaporeans have a misconception that testimonials and recommendation letters will help to get PR. If you read through this forum, you will find that many members will tell you this is bullish!t because ICA does not request for letters in the first place. If you try to sneakily submit these letters in the application, ICA will assume you do not understand simple instructions and reject you.

I am a Singaporean myself and have successfully sponsored PR for my Caucasian husband without any misguided nonsense like volunteering, blood/monetary donation, investment, property/car/insurance purchase, or recommendation/PR letters.

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Re: PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by Shilabitsz » Fri, 10 Feb 2023 11:31 am

Thank you very much for the replies, "singaporeflyer" and "MOCHS". I really appreciate them. I am/was a bit in a rush for getting PR so that I can make more long term plans here. It helps finding jobs, as I become a cheaper worker, and it can also help us to apply for a BTO instead of a resale flat. All in all, it would make our next years much smoother. But again, that is a concern for us, not for ICA. Thank you once again for the quick and helpful replies.

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Re: PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by MOCHS » Fri, 10 Feb 2023 1:57 pm

Shilabitsz wrote:
Fri, 10 Feb 2023 11:31 am
it can also help us to apply for a BTO instead of a resale flat.
You and your partner have to change your mindset here. The onus is on both of you to be financially stable enough to afford a house without the subsidies. Subsidies are considered a bonus, not a right. Sorry if you feel that is harsh but that is the truth. If ICA knows you want PR for a BTO, all the more they will reject.

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Re: PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by sgpt0369699 » Sun, 12 Feb 2023 6:53 pm

Hi All. I am wondering if my chance of applying PR in Singapore would be. Below is my profile.

Has been staying in SG for 7 years far (4 years for study and 3 years for working)
Annual salary: Around 100k SGD
Currently holding Employment Pass.
Education: Master degree in NUS (Computer Science) and Bachelor degree in an Australian university which has a campus in Singapore.
Just finished my 3-year service obligation in Singapore (because I received the tuition grant from Singapore Government and was obliged to work in Singapore 3 years after graduation)
Occupation: Senior Data Engineer in a government-related company that manages all the electronic payment systems in Singapore.
Specialisation: BigData/ Data Warehouse (Data Engineering)
Nationality: Vietnamese
Race: Vietnamese
Marital status: Single
Age: 26

Really appreciate if anyone can help assess my chance of getting PR in Singapore. Thank you in advance.

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Re: PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by singaporeflyer » Sun, 12 Feb 2023 8:09 pm

sgpt0369699 wrote:
Sun, 12 Feb 2023 6:53 pm
Hi All. I am wondering if my chance of applying PR in Singapore would be. Below is my profile.

Has been staying in SG for 7 years far (4 years for study and 3 years for working)
Annual salary: Around 100k SGD
Currently holding Employment Pass.
Education: Master degree in NUS (Computer Science) and Bachelor degree in an Australian university which has a campus in Singapore.
Just finished my 3-year service obligation in Singapore (because I received the tuition grant from Singapore Government and was obliged to work in Singapore 3 years after graduation)
Occupation: Senior Data Engineer in a government-related company that manages all the electronic payment systems in Singapore.
Specialisation: BigData/ Data Warehouse (Data Engineering)
Nationality: Vietnamese
Race: Vietnamese
Marital status: Single
Age: 26

Really appreciate if anyone can help assess my chance of getting PR in Singapore. Thank you in advance.
You can apply, but chances may be low due to ethnic Quota. But the local education, service obligation completion and occupation in a in demand job are positives which may tilt the application outcome in your favour

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Re: PR Application Chances - 2023

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 16 Feb 2023 5:03 pm

John Goh wrote:
Thu, 16 Feb 2023 4:11 pm
djwatch92 wrote:
Sun, 05 Feb 2023 12:42 pm
Hello. I have been living / working in Singapore since Jan 2020. Below is my profile:

Ethnicity: Malaysian Chinese
Education: CFA Charterholder and Bachelor's Degree
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Visa: EP, Investment Manager
Salary: - > SGD100K p.a. + Variable bonus
Employer: Singapore GLC
Total work experience: 9 years overall, 25 months in SG

I applied for my PR in Aug 2020, which on hindsight is likely a mistake given the general advice I've seen on the forums is > 24 months (EP renewal). I also joined my current company (Singapore GLC) in Jun 2021, given that the role had a significant salary increase and upward career advancement (i.e. more responsibilities, better opportunities). One other unique fact was that I was born in Singapore (under a dependent pass as my parents were then PRs, then moved back to Malaysia when I was 2 - unsure if this is a negative factor).

Appreciate any input / advice on my case. Current status of PR is still pending. Would just like to primarily understand if it's just a waiting game, as from what I have gathered here, my profile is generally quite good.

Thanks and have a great Sunday!
Hi. I can help you with your PR approval. Don't mind pm me to discuss further over there?
Don't promote your PR services here.

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