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Re: Explicit books in international school libraries

Post by DavidC1 » Wed, 13 Mar 2024 5:17 am

I’m glad I chanced upon your post.

I too was concerned about Gender Queer.

I’ve seen its age inappropriate contents, which can be easily found on Google Images. It shows oral boy on boy cartoon sex and a lot of homosexual material. How this is available to 11 year olds is just mind blowing.

It can be found in Tanglin Trust and Singapore American School.

Parents who permit this usually either have kids from the queer community, are queer themselves, or don’t care that much about their kids or are too afraid to speak up.

A complaint can be made to the Ministry of Education. International Schools may have a separate curriculum from the local program, but they are still on foreign soil and ought to operate under the laws of the country they are in.

I too am upset about this and may soon be raising this to the authorities.

Is your friend’s child still in UWC? Perhaps we should all connect and raise this issue as a group to the relevant government body. Either way, with or without the group, I’ll likely be filing a complaint soon.

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Re: Explicit books in international school libraries

Post by DavidC1 » Wed, 13 Mar 2024 5:25 am

Lisafuller wrote:
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One of my nephews (age 9) who visited us during CNY was slapping other kids on their buttocks and making sexual innuendos. My son (age 14) told him gently to stop and that it was inappropriate. Proud of my son for that, but I also think it illustrates what matters is the guidance — exposure is inevitable and sometimes unavoidable. If you raise your kids right, they will know right from wrong… and hopefully choose what is right.
Eek, good on your son. I believe this illustrates exactly what I was saying, which you seem to agree with, that exposure is inevitable. Arguably, then, controlled exposure is the lesser of two evils.
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I've met a lot of 22 year old fresh graduates who shouldn't be allowed to read them. I've also read about 14 year old's graduating from University. One size fits all? Therein lies the problem.
Great point, that being said, the books are not being forced on any students. They simply exist as a resource for those who are curious to tap on, which I think is not problematic in itself.
I’m sorry but I don’t understand how you could be so apathetic to your child reading books about young boys having oral and anal sex. Have you checked out the contents of Gender Queer? It’s disgusting for adults, let alone for children.

While they can get stuff from the internet, a school should be a place for academia and sports.

These books are what sexual predators do to groom kids. Already it’s becoming a trend for queer counselors and teachers in school indoctrinating children to question their gender identity without their parents knowing. There are already cases of parents who were completely blindsided by counselors and teachers in school who secretly transitioned their children.

Again, I just can’t understand how you can accept this.

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Re: Explicit books in international school libraries

Post by Strong Eagle » Wed, 13 Mar 2024 12:02 pm

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Wed, 13 Mar 2024 5:25 am
I’m sorry but I don’t understand how you could be so apathetic to your child reading books about young boys having oral and anal sex. Have you checked out the contents of Gender Queer? It’s disgusting for adults, let alone for children.

While they can get stuff from the internet, a school should be a place for academia and sports.

These books are what sexual predators do to groom kids. Already it’s becoming a trend for queer counselors and teachers in school indoctrinating children to question their gender identity without their parents knowing. There are already cases of parents who were completely blindsided by counselors and teachers in school who secretly transitioned their children.

Again, I just can’t understand how you can accept this.
How woefully ignorant and bigoted you are. I don't know where you get your information but for a fact, it's nonsense. It's worse. It's bullshit.

WTF is a "sexual predator"? WTF is a "groomer"? Do you know that anti-LGBTQ+ extremists have misappropriated a legitimate term related to sexual abuse in order to demonize LGBTQ+ people? I'll bet money you don't have any idea of the origin of the terms or how they are misused by the hard right. Are you aware that the vast majority of pedophiles are heterosexual males? No, obviously, you are not aware.

Are you aware that homosexuality is not a choice, that people are born the way they are, just as they are born left handed or right, just as they have blue eyes or brown? Sure, you know that, but you reject that because some ignorant religious idiot has told to you hate queers. Are you a QAnon conspiracy theorist? They spout this garbage all the time.

I'll bet you still think that Hilary Clinton is still running a pedophilia ring in the non-existent basement of the Comet Ping Pong Pizzeria in Washington DC, don't you?

Time for you to wake up... but it's going to take a lot of work for a bigoted fool like you to understand how sorely misguided you are.

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Re: Explicit books in international school libraries

Post by DavidC1 » Wed, 13 Mar 2024 2:01 pm

I have no problems with trans people. My own relative is a trans and EVEN SHE does not approve of sexually charged books in school, which is meant for learning and academia.

1) Tell us, what do you gain for having such books as Gender Queer in school ? Why are you insistent on kids as young as 10 seeing oral and anal s*x ?
https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-im ... ross-iowa/

2) The first of many cases soon to come of parents winning lawsuits against schools for SECRETLY transitioning their children without parental consent
https://www.newsweek.com/california-mom ... er-1823317

3) Woke schools lead to students' grades falling off a cliff
https://fosterfollynews.net/2024/02/12/ ... -teachers/

Trans kids should be respected in schools. LGB students too. All kids matter. But leave sexually charged books and rainbow icons out of school, which again is for academia and sports.

Back off and leave our children alone!!

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Re: Explicit books in international school libraries

Post by malcontent » Wed, 13 Mar 2024 11:17 pm

While I agree that kids are going to be exposed to this stuff eventually, putting it on the shelf at schools sends the wrong signal — doesn’t matter if it’s hetero or whatevero.

SAS has gone way too far with their mandatory indoctrination classes, and peppering the school with rainbows and pro-LGBTQ paraphernalia.

Just because someone is born with atypical sexual desires does not mean it needs to be embraced/promoted by society or that they should be encouraged to act on it.

In second grade one of the girls in my class accidentally tipped over her desk trying to kiss another girl. In today’s society she probably would have been encouraged to explore her sexuality beyond the normal boundaries of human nature, but fortunately the incident was quickly swept under the rug and never spoken of again. She is now living a wonderful life in Wisconsin with her husband and 3 kids, who are now teens. She might not even remember the incident, but my mind is like a steel trap (plus I had a crush on her too).
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Re: Explicit books in international school libraries

Post by DavidC1 » Sun, 17 Mar 2024 9:30 pm

malcontent wrote:
Wed, 13 Mar 2024 11:17 pm
While I agree that kids are going to be exposed to this stuff eventually, putting it on the shelf at schools sends the wrong signal — doesn’t matter if it’s hetero or whatevero.

SAS has gone way too far with their mandatory indoctrination classes, and peppering the school with rainbows and pro-LGBTQ paraphernalia.

Just because someone is born with atypical sexual desires does not mean it needs to be embraced/promoted by society or that they should be encouraged to act on it.

In second grade one of the girls in my class accidentally tipped over her desk trying to kiss another girl. In today’s society she probably would have been encouraged to explore her sexuality beyond the normal boundaries of human nature, but fortunately the incident was quickly swept under the rug and never spoken of again. She is now living a wonderful life in Wisconsin with her husband and 3 kids, who are now teens. She might not even remember the incident, but my mind is like a steel trap (plus I had a crush on her too).
So the rumours I've heard are true.

Well said. Just because someone is born with atypical sexual desires does not mean it needs to be embraced/promoted by society or that they should be encouraged to act on it. In 99% of the cases, such same-sex crushes go away and these kids end up normal / straight. But in today's SAS, kids are encouraged to convert into the cult we know as 2SLGBTQ.

What's even more shocking is that despite Singapore's ultra-conservative laws, which state that all sex-related books are banned within the country. It might be an International School, but the school is still not immune to the laws of the country in which it operates.

Gender affirming care should be to encourage confused kids to love and accept who they already are and that they were already born beautiful to begin with. Rather than encourage them to believe they were born in the wrong body and transitioning is the way to go.

It appears the teachers, principal and counselors are maintaining 2 separate accounts. One for the students and one for parents. They tell parents one thing such as "we only have 1 semester of sex education class" then behind closed doors indoctrinate children daily with pride flags and LGBTQ paraphernalia. And because teachers aren't telling parents anything, kids can end up leading a 'double life'.

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Post by malcontent » Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:01 pm

I wouldn’t have known myself if it were not for my son who has no qualms about giving me the play-by-play he experiences on a daily basis. I have raised this directly with the school and even spoken to the principal on this matter. I even asked: I can’t be the first person who has raised this.. what have you done in previous cases? The response: we just talk to the parents until we come to an understanding… in other words, they truly believe they are taking the higher ground and anyone who doesn’t see it the same way just needs to be fed more bs until they give in or give up. It’s definitely good to be aware what kind of cesspool your kid is swimming in, so at least you can guide them. And, considering the world we live in today, they’ll be swimming in it sooner or later, so might as well start preparing them now.
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Post by PNGMK » Mon, 18 Mar 2024 8:51 am

I'll check with my close relative if those books are on the ICS libary shelf but I doubt so. If you are concerned that you cannot safely raise these issues with the school etc I would move the kids into ICS where your concerns will be heard and acted on.

We did give my daughter and son two general sex ed books which explained homosexuality and gender issues from a fairly neutral perspective.

In the early 2000's I had to manage an Indian lad who became an Indian lass. It certainly changed my frame of mind about intersex people - he simply wasn't either Male or Female by either genitalia or chromosones and it was quite sad.
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Post by malcontent » Mon, 18 Mar 2024 10:33 am

PNGMK wrote:
Mon, 18 Mar 2024 8:51 am
I'll check with my close relative if those books are on the ICS libary shelf but I doubt so. If you are concerned that you cannot safely raise these issues with the school etc I would move the kids into ICS where your concerns will be heard and acted on.

We did give my daughter and son two general sex ed books which explained homosexuality and gender issues from a fairly neutral perspective.

In the early 2000's I had to manage an Indian lad who became an Indian lass. It certainly changed my frame of mind about intersex people - he simply wasn't either Male or Female by either genitalia or chromosones and it was quite sad.
Giving kids the facts of life at an appropriate age makes sense, but in this internet age, they will probably get them earlier. My parents gave me “the talk” after I already knew everything, so it was kind of an eye roll.

Hermaphroditism is extremely rare, but I can imagine it would be tough for them.
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Post by Strong Eagle » Mon, 18 Mar 2024 12:05 pm

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SAS has gone way too far with their mandatory indoctrination classes, and peppering the school with rainbows and pro-LGBTQ paraphernalia.
"Mandatory indoctrination classes"? "Pro LGBTQ paraphernalia"? What are you? Some kind of bible banger? This is exactly the kind of shit tossed about by hard right "Christians" who refuse to acknowledge that being gay is not a choice. Neither do gay people, in spite of more fundamentalist bullshit, "groom" children for the "lifestyle".

Your post reeks of homosexual bigotry.

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Re: Explicit books in international school libraries

Post by malcontent » Mon, 18 Mar 2024 1:26 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:
Mon, 18 Mar 2024 12:05 pm
malcontent wrote:
Wed, 13 Mar 2024 11:17 pm
SAS has gone way too far with their mandatory indoctrination classes, and peppering the school with rainbows and pro-LGBTQ paraphernalia.
"Mandatory indoctrination classes"? "Pro LGBTQ paraphernalia"? What are you? Some kind of bible banger? This is exactly the kind of shit tossed about by hard right "Christians" who refuse to acknowledge that being gay is not a choice. Neither do gay people, in spite of more fundamentalist bullshit, "groom" children for the "lifestyle".

Your post reeks of homosexual bigotry.
My son was forced to watch a video of some kids shooting up hormones to stave off the effects of puberty. Mind you, this was a strict graduation requirement which he was not allowed to opt out of… is that not taking things too far?

I agree that sexual inclinations are not a choice; almost everyone is born with them, but like with many things, there is a spectrum - it’s often not simply black or white. One young adult in my extended family admitted outright that they are on the fence about which way to go. When they listed the pros/cons they sited societal acceptance as a pro for going the other way.
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Re: Explicit books in international school libraries

Post by DavidC1 » Mon, 18 Mar 2024 8:31 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:
Mon, 18 Mar 2024 12:05 pm
malcontent wrote:
Wed, 13 Mar 2024 11:17 pm
SAS has gone way too far with their mandatory indoctrination classes, and peppering the school with rainbows and pro-LGBTQ paraphernalia.
"Mandatory indoctrination classes"? "Pro LGBTQ paraphernalia"? What are you? Some kind of bible banger? This is exactly the kind of shit tossed about by hard right "Christians" who refuse to acknowledge that being gay is not a choice. Neither do gay people, in spite of more fundamentalist bullshit, "groom" children for the "lifestyle".

Your post reeks of homosexual bigotry.
Bigot, hater, transphobic - all this is getting old and boring. It doesn't work on most people anymore.

And frankly, you're being cisgenderphobic yourself.

It's one thing for everyone to be accepting of the queer community. It's another thing to force everyone to embrace and celebrate it. What you do in your adult life is your business and I think most would agree that's all fine and good.

Hate on the Christians all you want. But even atheists have enough of a conscience to know that there is a special place in hell for people who corrupt the innocence of children. Even atheists dare not tread towards such evil.

Even those from the LGB community are questioning all this madness of child indoctrination from the queer community.

Tell us, what do you gain from putting up LGBTQ paraphernalia, sexually explicit books in libraries and indoctrination classes in school for kids as young as 4 years old?

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Re: Explicit books in international school libraries

Post by DavidC1 » Mon, 18 Mar 2024 8:33 pm

malcontent wrote:
Mon, 18 Mar 2024 1:26 pm
Strong Eagle wrote:
Mon, 18 Mar 2024 12:05 pm
malcontent wrote:
Wed, 13 Mar 2024 11:17 pm
SAS has gone way too far with their mandatory indoctrination classes, and peppering the school with rainbows and pro-LGBTQ paraphernalia.
"Mandatory indoctrination classes"? "Pro LGBTQ paraphernalia"? What are you? Some kind of bible banger? This is exactly the kind of shit tossed about by hard right "Christians" who refuse to acknowledge that being gay is not a choice. Neither do gay people, in spite of more fundamentalist bullshit, "groom" children for the "lifestyle".

Your post reeks of homosexual bigotry.
My son was forced to watch a video of some kids shooting up hormones to stave off the effects of puberty. Mind you, this was a strict graduation requirement which he was not allowed to opt out of… is that not taking things too far?

I agree that sexual inclinations are not a choice; almost everyone is born with them, but like with many things, there is a spectrum - it’s often not simply black or white. One young adult in my extended family admitted outright that they are on the fence about which way to go. When they listed the pros/cons they sited societal acceptance as a pro for going the other way.
Well said. This doesn't have to be forced upon everyone. Neither does it have to be celebrated in front of kids.

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Re: Explicit books in international school libraries

Post by Strong Eagle » Tue, 19 Mar 2024 11:05 am

DavidC1 wrote:
Mon, 18 Mar 2024 8:31 pm
Hate on the Christians all you want. But even atheists have enough of a conscience to know that there is a special place in hell for people who corrupt the innocence of children. Even atheists dare not tread towards such evil.
More of your bullshit that gays corrupt and indoctrinate children. You are a bigot and it's so hard to change a bigot's mind.

https://kitthornton.substack.com/p/unde ... ng-bigotry

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Re: Explicit books in international school libraries

Post by Edge007 » Tue, 19 Mar 2024 11:59 am

Strong Eagle wrote:
Tue, 19 Mar 2024 11:05 am
DavidC1 wrote:
Mon, 18 Mar 2024 8:31 pm
Hate on the Christians all you want. But even atheists have enough of a conscience to know that there is a special place in hell for people who corrupt the innocence of children. Even atheists dare not tread towards such evil.
More of your bullshit that gays corrupt and indoctrinate children. You are a bigot and it's so hard to change a bigot's mind.

https://kitthornton.substack.com/p/unde ... ng-bigotry
Adults encouraging kids to question their gender identity and telling kids its OK to have sex is evil.

You're knee deep in this so obviously you can't you see that.

Tell us - What do you gain from putting up sexually explicit books in libraries?

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