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Re: Marrying a work permit Singapore

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 05 Jan 2023 12:09 am

Anybody have feelings of deja vu of china repeating itself almost identically as it did in Jan of 2020 (just before the CYN holiday). Let their borders open up so a mass exodus of newly infected Covid carriers with a new version can land in countries around the world creating the same scenario as what happen at the start of the pandemic 3 years ago. And they wonder why the world is closing it's borders to them?
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Re: Marrying a work permit Singapore

Post by MOCHS » Thu, 05 Jan 2023 7:51 am

True, my interactions with PRC folk are already biased since they are mostly students or research staff who can afford to go overseas. Another ex-colleague of mine married a Tibetan guy back in the 80s/90s who is now a SC via her sponsorship. From what she told me, if he ever steps into China (or was it Tibet) again, a “guide” has to follow him wherever he goes. I was inspired & fascinated with her story since she has a foreigner husband and I was still unmarried back then and thinking of my future plans.

I got a new Indian PhD student who used to be a medical doctor in China during the covid period… He told us lots of interesting tales. The foreigners who were stuck in China, some didn’t want to be treated by PRC docs. He specialises in surgery and was asked to help deliver a baby for a foreigner ‘cos she didn’t want a PRC doc touching her. He delivered with his PRC gynae colleague standing beside him to give instructions.

Foreigners could get Pfizer/Moderna vaccines, but only at their respective embassies. He said there were some docs that died of COVID in his hospital and those that died took Sinovac while the other foreigner docs that took P or M were fine.

HCWs there are treated shabbily too. Singles had to work 12h shifts 6 days a week while those who were married with kids only worked 12h shifts 4-5 days a week. They could not bring in their phones during their shifts. He and his colleagues just slept at the hospital in a room with multiple beds instead of going home during the week. One of his colleagues who was a hardcore CCP supporter before covid, became resentful towards the govt during this period.

The govt did give the docs covid bonuses in the end. Locals got RMB but foreigners received them in USD for some weird reason. The PhD student can’t withdraw it online and can only do so in person at the bank.

But we are going off topic… Bottom line is OP can just apply for permission first and wait for the outcome. If negative result then OP has to think of plan B which is living overseas indefinitely with him or plan C which is break up.

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Re: Marrying a work permit Singapore

Post by PNGMK » Thu, 05 Jan 2023 7:37 pm

MOCHS wrote:
Thu, 05 Jan 2023 7:51 am
True, my interactions with PRC folk are already biased since they are mostly students or research staff who can afford to go overseas. Another ex-colleague of mine married a Tibetan guy back in the 80s/90s who is now a SC via her sponsorship. From what she told me, if he ever steps into China (or was it Tibet) again, a “guide” has to follow him wherever he goes. I was inspired & fascinated with her story since she has a foreigner husband and I was still unmarried back then and thinking of my future plans.

I got a new Indian PhD student who used to be a medical doctor in China during the covid period… He told us lots of interesting tales. The foreigners who were stuck in China, some didn’t want to be treated by PRC docs. He specialises in surgery and was asked to help deliver a baby for a foreigner ‘cos she didn’t want a PRC doc touching her. He delivered with his PRC gynae colleague standing beside him to give instructions.

Foreigners could get Pfizer/Moderna vaccines, but only at their respective embassies. He said there were some docs that died of COVID in his hospital and those that died took Sinovac while the other foreigner docs that took P or M were fine.

HCWs there are treated shabbily too. Singles had to work 12h shifts 6 days a week while those who were married with kids only worked 12h shifts 4-5 days a week. They could not bring in their phones during their shifts. He and his colleagues just slept at the hospital in a room with multiple beds instead of going home during the week. One of his colleagues who was a hardcore CCP supporter before covid, became resentful towards the govt during this period.

The govt did give the docs covid bonuses in the end. Locals got RMB but foreigners received them in USD for some weird reason. The PhD student can’t withdraw it online and can only do so in person at the bank.

But we are going off topic… Bottom line is OP can just apply for permission first and wait for the outcome. If negative result then OP has to think of plan B which is living overseas indefinitely with him or plan C which is break up.

Interesting stuff. I suggest OP move to Canada. It's clear the sinovac is crap and it's clear than the P and M vaccines DO work because we don't have the deaths China does. The Chinese should hang Xi and the CCP for that alone.

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https://www.ft.com/content/67d7c3fb-ccd ... 818eba6c0e



China is mourning a growing number of public figures lost to Covid-19, from academics to opera singers, whose deaths have complicated the government’s efforts to minimise the scale of the unfolding outbreak sweeping across the country.

Since authorities last month scrapped most restrictions instituted to keep the virus at bay, coronavirus has rampaged through China’s vulnerable population with unparalleled speed, leaving hospitals inundated with the sick and elderly and crematoria overwhelmed with demand.

The havoc has left China’s propaganda organs struggling to shape a coherent narrative and defend the rollback of president Xi Jinping’s signature zero-Covid strategy, especially after spending two years playing up the death toll in the west as evidence of China’s superior governance.

In the past few weeks, a slew of obituaries published by companies, institutes, schools and families has undermined the official narrative that the outbreak is under control and the variants prevalent in China are less severe by illustrating the human toll of the easing of restrictions.

Shanghai Kehua Bio-Engineering announced last week that its founder Tang Weiguo, 66, who built the group over more than three decades into one of China’s leading clinical testing companies, had died of Covid-19 and underlying disease on December 25.

“Old boss Tang, have a good onward journey,” the company, which recently shifted into producing millions of rapid Covid tests, wrote in an obituary posted on its website.

Covid-related complications also claimed the lives in Beijing of 39-year-old opera singer Chu Lanlan and famous dancer and politician Zhao Qing, who died at 87, according to friends and relatives. Wang Tao, 52, a deputy dean at Inner Mongolia University of Science and Technology, died of Covid on December 30, the school announced.

At Nanjing university, former students mourned the death of 87-year-old Hu Fuming, a philosopher and retired professor and author of a famous article that sparked criticism of former leader Mao Zedong following the Cultural Revolution.

“Changing history and guiding the people — this is truly what a great scholar should be,” wrote one of Hu’s students in a social media post.

Some of the tributes mentioned Covid, but most have attributed deaths to unspecified diseases, another source of controversy in the government’s efforts to play down the exit wave.

Top health officials have sharply narrowed the definition of Covid deaths to only patients with respiratory failure or pneumonia, excluding those who died with other conditions despite testing positive for the virus.

China has reported 5,258 Covid deaths nationwide as of Tuesday, including just 25 since December 1, despite projections of as many as 1mn fatalities in the current wave. No deaths have been reported in Shanghai, Nanjing and Inner Mongolia since the infection rate exploded last month.

The National Health Commission later said the published death totals were only for “research and study references”. 

The implausible official statistics have led Chinese internet sleuths to begin recording deaths independently, with some online obituaries turning into virtual bulletin boards as users anonymously added news of lost relatives.

Students at Tsinghua and Peking universities in Beijing and other academic institutions have been tallying deaths among retired professors, while other internet sleuths have counted at least 16 deaths among the 1,831 top figures at China’s sciences and engineering academies.

In response to the growing attention, the Chinese Academy of Engineering deleted tributes it had posted to social media for five deceased engineers on December 23.

“The academicians who died these past few days got obituaries. It’s unclear if any more will though,” commented one social media user. The academy did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The clamour has forced Chinese officials to qualify widely discredited public data.

Wu Zunyou, chief epidemiologist at the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, said last week that he would lead a team to calculate excess mortality data and “figure out what could have potentially been underestimated”.

Excess mortality, or the number of deaths from all causes above “normal” circumstances, is a relatively reliable gauge of the toll of Covid outbreaks.
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Re: Marrying a work permit Singapore

Post by MOCHS » Thu, 05 Jan 2023 10:34 pm

Most bizarre thing is the PhD student received a few PhD offers from various unis in China but the PRC govt did not want to give him a student visa. Like… he already studied medicine in China, still physically working as a MD there during the COVID period, and they refused to grant him a visa so he came to SG instead for his PhD. That’s when I learned it’s pretty common for Indians to study medicine in China of all places, where the exams and everything is done in Mandarin. I take my hat off to him.

My colleague’s entire family that remained in PRC got covid within a week after China lifted their restrictions. Their symptoms were pretty bad, fevers easily reaching 39.5°C, body aches, sore throat, etc. but they are slowly recovering much to her relief.

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