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Lisafuller
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Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore

Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 30 Dec 2022 1:59 pm

therat wrote:
Fri, 30 Dec 2022 11:22 am
Lisafuller wrote:
Fri, 30 Dec 2022 11:09 am
tiktok wrote:
Fri, 30 Dec 2022 6:49 am
They use a combination of soft brainwashing (media control, education) and punishment (POFMA, defamation suits) to stop the population taking about it.. Of course there's the PM salary, senior government positions stuffed with relatives, and much more than would be an outrage in other countries.
Yup. Some parts of the way things are done in SG are really not right, like all the ways they silence opponents and the small things they do (gerrymandering/right to hold elections whenever they want) to give themselves the upper hand.
I think all government act the same.

Which government will give opp upper hand?
That may be true, but I still think their tactics are quite extreme.

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Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore

Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 30 Dec 2022 2:00 pm

tiktok wrote:
Fri, 30 Dec 2022 11:30 am
Of course no government will give the opposition the upper hand. But other governments don't or can't sue anyone who criticizes them, pay themselves massive salaries, put all their relatives in senior government posts, manipulate the electoral process to make it almost impossible for the opposition to win votes, suppress freedom of information and public expression.

But hey if people here are ok with that, carry on.
Supposedly the salaries are so high to deter corruption.

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Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore

Post by therat » Fri, 30 Dec 2022 3:43 pm

tiktok wrote:
Fri, 30 Dec 2022 11:30 am
Of course no government will give the opposition the upper hand. But other governments don't or can't sue anyone who criticizes them, pay themselves massive salaries, put all their relatives in senior government posts, manipulate the electoral process to make it almost impossible for the opposition to win votes, suppress freedom of information and public expression.

But hey if people here are ok with that, carry on.
May be you can read
Things that Mahathir Mohamad did to Anwar and Lim Guan Eng

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Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore

Post by Wd40 » Sun, 01 Jan 2023 2:54 pm

I think I heard this in Bloomberg, about China. In China the social contract between the govt and the people is different from other countries. The CCP gave very good governance and brought prosperity to the people, so the people are okay to forego some civil liberties. It doesnt hurt them in their day to day life anyways. But the Covid Zero, property market crash etc changed that whole thing upside down. The Chinese citizens were like "Hey this is not what we signed up for". Thats why you had protests and the CCP had to quickly backtrack.

So I think Singapore is a bit similar on a much smaller scale. The govt performs very well, just look at their covid management, Singapore is like a role model for other countries, so in return people also follow what the govt says. I see so many people still wearing masks even though it is not mandatory. In most first world countries people like to revolt at any new rule the govt brings, because there is a deep distrust. But that is not the case with Singapore.

In Singapore too, we had that population whitepaper related outcry and people didnt like it, gahmen got lower votes in the election. Then the gahmen quickly changed course and listened to the people and then the next election people are happy again.So as long as you perform well,all good, people care about their day to day lives, they dont care about anything else.

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