SC Approval Chances

[Lisafuller]

Thanks SF for the assessment. We are in "others" category.

More details on job scope:
Me- research and design of machineries that sg exports worldwide while my wife is a programmer. Not sure if it contributes to our case.

We were already rooted here in SG and plan B is hard to do. I guess we just stay as long as we could and hopefully the kids can get theirs when they graduate here.

I am also in the 'others' category. In fact, everybody who doesn't fit into the C, M, or I ethnic grouping is also in the other's category. However, we do know that the other's category is further subdivided (not officially) but it can be seen often. Is that why you don't divulge your ethnicity/nationality here? By your evasiveness, are you trying to evade bad news? To give you reasonable assessment, we need forthcoming information. I, for one, am not......{I do have the beard though..}

crystal-ball-merlin.jpg

Something that I'm getting increasingly curious about is how mixed race applicants are classified in the eyes of the ICA. If an applicant is Chinese-French for example, would they be able to select the ethnicity that offers them the best chance (in terms of quota)?

[Lisafuller]

Hi NYY1, i have tried online app and included my wife but it didnt proceed. She needs to be PR.

Hi SF, yes i am a mechanical engineer and was hired as an engineer 15yrs ago.

Given my family's recent PR rejection, is it too soon to apply for SC or it doesnt matter? Or is it better to improve first our salary?

Waiting 2 years also allows you time to improve your profile + increase your time in SG to show your commitment (which in your case won't make much of a difference as you've already been here 15 years).

[NYY1]

Thanks SF for the assessment. We are in "others" category.

More details on job scope:
Me- research and design of machineries that sg exports worldwide while my wife is a programmer. Not sure if it contributes to our case.

We were already rooted here in SG and plan B is hard to do. I guess we just stay as long as we could and hopefully the kids can get theirs when they graduate here.

Any reason why your wife doesn't want to convert (to SC) as well? Not saying this is the gating issue but it probably isn't helping either.

Your older son in the local school can apply after passing a national exam (i.e. PSLE), although hard to say what the odds are.

In addition to housing, I guess another challenge is schooling for the younger child (can get in local system) and the higher ASEAN fees vs. PR fees.

Wish you luck! Understand here is home; unfortunately some factors may not be stacked in your favour (can still happen though).

Could probably try for the same school as the brother and get in that way.

I think the question/issue is that International Students (IS) do not qualify for Phase 1 (Sibling) and IS are no longer allowed to approach the school directly to apply (everything is centralized by MOE). I believe all they can do is apply for Phase 3; MOE may give them the same school or they may not (same school or any school). If the younger one can obtain PR before P1 registration, he will qualify for Phase 1.

[sliverchair13]

Hi NYY1, yes your are right. My younger son will still go thru phase3 on his current status.

[sliverchair13]

Hi NYY1, i have tried online app and included my wife but it didnt proceed. She needs to be PR.

Hi SF, yes i am a mechanical engineer and was hired as an engineer 15yrs ago.

Given my family's recent PR rejection, is it too soon to apply for SC or it doesnt matter? Or is it better to improve first our salary?

Waiting 2 years also allows you time to improve your profile + increase your time in SG to show your commitment (which in your case won't make much of a difference as you've already been here 15 years).

Hi Lisa, I have an impression that once the age of 40 is crossed, the chances will be lower (similar to PR application on some countries where the points drastically reduced).

[singaporeflyer]

Hi NYY1, i have tried online app and included my wife but it didnt proceed. She needs to be PR.

Hi SF, yes i am a mechanical engineer and was hired as an engineer 15yrs ago.

Given my family's recent PR rejection, is it too soon to apply for SC or it doesnt matter? Or is it better to improve first our salary?

Waiting 2 years also allows you time to improve your profile + increase your time in SG to show your commitment (which in your case won't make much of a difference as you've already been here 15 years).

Hi Lisa, I have an impression that once the age of 40 is crossed, the chances will be lower (similar to PR application on some countries where the points drastically reduced).

But if you apply immediately, the outcome will be the same as before.

[sliverchair13]

Hi SF, yes that's true.
Apply early but no significant change on status
Apply later but older already

[smoulder]

Thanks SF for the assessment. We are in "others" category.

More details on job scope:
Me- research and design of machineries that sg exports worldwide while my wife is a programmer. Not sure if it contributes to our case.

We were already rooted here in SG and plan B is hard to do. I guess we just stay as long as we could and hopefully the kids can get theirs when they graduate here.

I am also in the 'others' category. In fact, everybody who doesn't fit into the C, M, or I ethnic grouping is also in the other's category. However, we do know that the other's category is further subdivided (not officially) but it can be seen often. Is that why you don't divulge your ethnicity/nationality here? By your evasiveness, are you trying to evade bad news? To give you reasonable assessment, we need forthcoming information. I, for one, am not......{I do have the beard though..}

crystal-ball-merlin.jpg

Something that I'm getting increasingly curious about is how mixed race applicants are classified in the eyes of the ICA. If an applicant is Chinese-French for example, would they be able to select the ethnicity that offers them the best chance (in terms of quota)?

Not sure how it's done for people coming in on EP, but for my daughter, while registering her for Singapore citizenship, the double barrelled race system was applied. Therefore, we were able to choose from

1. Chinese - Indian (primary secondary) , which is what we chose
2. Indian - Chinese
3. Chinese (only primary, no secondary)
4. Indian

[Lisafuller]

Any reason why your wife doesn't want to convert (to SC) as well? Not saying this is the gating issue but it probably isn't helping either.

Your older son in the local school can apply after passing a national exam (i.e. PSLE), although hard to say what the odds are.

In addition to housing, I guess another challenge is schooling for the younger child (can get in local system) and the higher ASEAN fees vs. PR fees.

Wish you luck! Understand here is home; unfortunately some factors may not be stacked in your favour (can still happen though).

Could probably try for the same school as the brother and get in that way.

I think the question/issue is that International Students (IS) do not qualify for Phase 1 (Sibling) and IS are no longer allowed to approach the school directly to apply (everything is centralized by MOE). I believe all they can do is apply for Phase 3; MOE may give them the same school or they may not (same school or any school). If the younger one can obtain PR before P1 registration, he will qualify for Phase 1.

Oh, missed that

[Lisafuller]

Hi NYY1, i have tried online app and included my wife but it didnt proceed. She needs to be PR.

Hi SF, yes i am a mechanical engineer and was hired as an engineer 15yrs ago.

Given my family's recent PR rejection, is it too soon to apply for SC or it doesnt matter? Or is it better to improve first our salary?

Waiting 2 years also allows you time to improve your profile + increase your time in SG to show your commitment (which in your case won't make much of a difference as you've already been here 15 years).

Hi Lisa, I have an impression that once the age of 40 is crossed, the chances will be lower (similar to PR application on some countries where the points drastically reduced).

I don't believe there's a hard cut off in terms of age, but I will say that chances decrease as age increases. Reapplying now will do you no good though.

[Lisafuller]

Hi SF, yes that's true.
Apply early but no significant change on status
Apply later but older already

In this case, it would be better to apply later since you already know what their answer is with your current profile. When you get rejected again, the clock for reapplying will reset, putting you even further from your goal.

[Lisafuller]

Hi NYY1, yes your are right. My younger son will still go thru phase3 on his current status.

Do you have a particular school in mind?

[Lisafuller]

I am also in the 'others' category. In fact, everybody who doesn't fit into the C, M, or I ethnic grouping is also in the other's category. However, we do know that the other's category is further subdivided (not officially) but it can be seen often. Is that why you don't divulge your ethnicity/nationality here? By your evasiveness, are you trying to evade bad news? To give you reasonable assessment, we need forthcoming information. I, for one, am not......{I do have the beard though..}

crystal-ball-merlin.jpg

Something that I'm getting increasingly curious about is how mixed race applicants are classified in the eyes of the ICA. If an applicant is Chinese-French for example, would they be able to select the ethnicity that offers them the best chance (in terms of quota)?

Not sure how it's done for people coming in on EP, but for my daughter, while registering her for Singapore citizenship, the double barrelled race system was applied. Therefore, we were able to choose from

1. Chinese - Indian (primary secondary) , which is what we chose
2. Indian - Chinese
3. Chinese (only primary, no secondary)
4. Indian

Your wife is Chinese then? And good choice, puts her in the basket of applicants with the highest quota, while still representing her true ethnicity.

[sliverchair13]

Hi NYY1, yes your are right. My younger son will still go thru phase3 on his current status.

Do you have a particular school in mind?

Hi Lisa, for phase 3 applicant, we can't choose schools. We just accept or reject what MOE has given.
I know some folks got same school as their siblings while some were offered with a school on opposite side of SG.

[smoulder]

Something that I'm getting increasingly curious about is how mixed race applicants are classified in the eyes of the ICA. If an applicant is Chinese-French for example, would they be able to select the ethnicity that offers them the best chance (in terms of quota)?

Not sure how it's done for people coming in on EP, but for my daughter, while registering her for Singapore citizenship, the double barrelled race system was applied. Therefore, we were able to choose from

1. Chinese - Indian (primary secondary) , which is what we chose
2. Indian - Chinese
3. Chinese (only primary, no secondary)
4. Indian

Your wife is Chinese then? And good choice, puts her in the basket of applicants with the highest quota, while still representing her true ethnicity.

Yup