You can try after 1-2 years, but salary alone is the not the only factor. Your back and forth between multiple times between SG and other country will be a significant factor too.midnight999 wrote: ↑Sat, 22 Oct 2022 11:11 pmI submitted my application for Singapore citizenship in January 2021 and got a rejection letter and email in March 2022
My Profile:
30 years old / Male
Pakistani, single and unmarried
Applied for myself only
General Manager in an Oil & Gas company with operations in Singapore and Pakistan and the US
My salary at the time of application: $5,000 a month ($60,000 annually)
I was born in Singapore and have lived here until I was 16. Then I did A Levels and university in the UK and then worked at my family's company (which is an MNC) for a year and then went to the UK for my Masters degree and then came back to Singapore and worked at Telstra (Australian telecommunications company) in Singapore as part of its Graduate Program for 2 years and then I went back to work in my family's company where I am currently working.
When I emailed them about my rejection they said the following
"We regret to advise we are unable to share more information.
We wish to highlight that each Singapore Citizenship (SC) application is carefully considered and reviewed before a decision is made. When assessing applications, we take into account factors such as the applicant's present economic contributions in Singapore, ability to integrate into the society and commitment to sink roots. If there would be any changes in any of these circumstances for the better, the applicant would have then an improved probability of a positive result."
At the time of applying my salary was $5,000 a month but now my salary is $10,300 a month.
Do you think I have a chance of being successful to apply in future?
How can I have a successful application in the future and have my citizenship application approved?
What exactly can I do to show my present economic contributions to Singapore, integrate into society and commit to sink roots?
I got my PR like 28 or 29 years ago since I was 1 or 2 years old. Tbh I don’t know exactly when I got it but I have had it for the vast majority of my life. I got it through my parents as they are PRs and had been PRs before I was born.singaporeflyer wrote: ↑Sun, 23 Oct 2022 3:05 amYou can try after 1-2 years, but salary alone is the not the only factor. Your back and forth between multiple times between SG and other country will be a significant factor too.midnight999 wrote: ↑Sat, 22 Oct 2022 11:11 pmI submitted my application for Singapore citizenship in January 2021 and got a rejection letter and email in March 2022
My Profile:
30 years old / Male
Pakistani, single and unmarried
Applied for myself only
General Manager in an Oil & Gas company with operations in Singapore and Pakistan and the US
My salary at the time of application: $5,000 a month ($60,000 annually)
I was born in Singapore and have lived here until I was 16. Then I did A Levels and university in the UK and then worked at my family's company (which is an MNC) for a year and then went to the UK for my Masters degree and then came back to Singapore and worked at Telstra (Australian telecommunications company) in Singapore as part of its Graduate Program for 2 years and then I went back to work in my family's company where I am currently working.
When I emailed them about my rejection they said the following
"We regret to advise we are unable to share more information.
We wish to highlight that each Singapore Citizenship (SC) application is carefully considered and reviewed before a decision is made. When assessing applications, we take into account factors such as the applicant's present economic contributions in Singapore, ability to integrate into the society and commitment to sink roots. If there would be any changes in any of these circumstances for the better, the applicant would have then an improved probability of a positive result."
At the time of applying my salary was $5,000 a month but now my salary is $10,300 a month.
Do you think I have a chance of being successful to apply in future?
How can I have a successful application in the future and have my citizenship application approved?
What exactly can I do to show my present economic contributions to Singapore, integrate into society and commit to sink roots?
When did you get your PR and how? Were you first generation PR or later? Did you serve NS?
I have a feeling that you are lucky being a PR already.
Doesn't look right. Something is missing.midnight999 wrote: ↑Sun, 23 Oct 2022 10:57 amI got my PR like 28 or 29 years ago since I was 1 or 2 years old. Tbh I don’t know exactly when I got it but I have had it for the vast majority of my life. I got it through my parents as they are PRs and had been PRs before I was born.singaporeflyer wrote: ↑Sun, 23 Oct 2022 3:05 amYou can try after 1-2 years, but salary alone is the not the only factor. Your back and forth between multiple times between SG and other country will be a significant factor too.midnight999 wrote: ↑Sat, 22 Oct 2022 11:11 pmI submitted my application for Singapore citizenship in January 2021 and got a rejection letter and email in March 2022
My Profile:
30 years old / Male
Pakistani, single and unmarried
Applied for myself only
General Manager in an Oil & Gas company with operations in Singapore and Pakistan and the US
My salary at the time of application: $5,000 a month ($60,000 annually)
I was born in Singapore and have lived here until I was 16. Then I did A Levels and university in the UK and then worked at my family's company (which is an MNC) for a year and then went to the UK for my Masters degree and then came back to Singapore and worked at Telstra (Australian telecommunications company) in Singapore as part of its Graduate Program for 2 years and then I went back to work in my family's company where I am currently working.
When I emailed them about my rejection they said the following
"We regret to advise we are unable to share more information.
We wish to highlight that each Singapore Citizenship (SC) application is carefully considered and reviewed before a decision is made. When assessing applications, we take into account factors such as the applicant's present economic contributions in Singapore, ability to integrate into the society and commitment to sink roots. If there would be any changes in any of these circumstances for the better, the applicant would have then an improved probability of a positive result."
At the time of applying my salary was $5,000 a month but now my salary is $10,300 a month.
Do you think I have a chance of being successful to apply in future?
How can I have a successful application in the future and have my citizenship application approved?
What exactly can I do to show my present economic contributions to Singapore, integrate into society and commit to sink roots?
When did you get your PR and how? Were you first generation PR or later? Did you serve NS?
I have a feeling that you are lucky being a PR already.
I didn’t serve NS as I was never called up to serve. I actually left to a boarding school in the UK to do my A Levels when I was 16 because I did not want to be in Singapore if they were to call me up for NS but they never called me up.
What exactly does not look right?singaporeflyer wrote: ↑Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:28 amDoesn't look right. Something is missing.midnight999 wrote: ↑Sun, 23 Oct 2022 10:57 amI got my PR like 28 or 29 years ago since I was 1 or 2 years old. Tbh I don’t know exactly when I got it but I have had it for the vast majority of my life. I got it through my parents as they are PRs and had been PRs before I was born.singaporeflyer wrote: ↑Sun, 23 Oct 2022 3:05 am
You can try after 1-2 years, but salary alone is the not the only factor. Your back and forth between multiple times between SG and other country will be a significant factor too.
When did you get your PR and how? Were you first generation PR or later? Did you serve NS?
I have a feeling that you are lucky being a PR already.
I didn’t serve NS as I was never called up to serve. I actually left to a boarding school in the UK to do my A Levels when I was 16 because I did not want to be in Singapore if they were to call me up for NS but they never called me up.
Do you mean that some people of certain nationalities who are Singapore PRs do not have to serve NS due to national security reasons?mystic_river wrote: ↑Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:41 amHe’s the same case as I am. Didn’t get called up for NS because of his nationality.
OP, I’m a Pakistani PR too. Wasn’t called up for NS either. A veteran here (Mad Scientist) mentioned that some people of certain nationalities do not have to serve NS due to national security reasons.
But I would not consider that to be a blocker. I know of 2nd gen Pakistani PRs who were never called up for NS and still went on to become SG citizens.
Having said that, whether you ever actually get approved for SGC is another matter. I myself just got rejected a few months back even though I’ve been a PR since 2005 and spent a better part of my life in Singapore (studied in locals schools too). Will you or I ever get approved? I don’t know. But I’d make a plan B if you want to get rid of your Pakistani passport.
Does anyone have any idea of suggestions at all about what exactly can I do to show my present economic contributions to Singapore, integrate into society and commit to sink roots?midnight999 wrote: ↑Sat, 22 Oct 2022 11:11 pmI submitted my application for Singapore citizenship in January 2021 and got a rejection letter and email in March 2022
My Profile:
30 years old / Male
Pakistani, single and unmarried
Applied for myself only
General Manager in an Oil & Gas company with operations in Singapore and Pakistan and the US
My salary at the time of application: $5,000 a month ($60,000 annually)
I was born in Singapore and have lived here until I was 16. Then I did A Levels and university in the UK and then worked at my family's company (which is an MNC) for a year and then went to the UK for my Masters degree and then came back to Singapore and worked at Telstra (Australian telecommunications company) in Singapore as part of its Graduate Program for 2 years and then I went back to work in my family's company where I am currently working.
When I emailed them about my rejection they said the following
"We regret to advise we are unable to share more information.
We wish to highlight that each Singapore Citizenship (SC) application is carefully considered and reviewed before a decision is made. When assessing applications, we take into account factors such as the applicant's present economic contributions in Singapore, ability to integrate into the society and commitment to sink roots. If there would be any changes in any of these circumstances for the better, the applicant would have then an improved probability of a positive result."
At the time of applying my salary was $5,000 a month but now my salary is $10,300 a month.
Do you think I have a chance of being successful to apply in future?
How can I have a successful application in the future and have my citizenship application approved?
What exactly can I do to show my present economic contributions to Singapore, integrate into society and commit to sink roots?
Based on whatever you have said in this thread, I feel your chance is going to be low. Hope to be wrong.midnight999 wrote: ↑Mon, 24 Oct 2022 1:14 amDo you mean that some people of certain nationalities who are Singapore PRs do not have to serve NS due to national security reasons?mystic_river wrote: ↑Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:41 amHe’s the same case as I am. Didn’t get called up for NS because of his nationality.
OP, I’m a Pakistani PR too. Wasn’t called up for NS either. A veteran here (Mad Scientist) mentioned that some people of certain nationalities do not have to serve NS due to national security reasons.
But I would not consider that to be a blocker. I know of 2nd gen Pakistani PRs who were never called up for NS and still went on to become SG citizens.
Having said that, whether you ever actually get approved for SGC is another matter. I myself just got rejected a few months back even though I’ve been a PR since 2005 and spent a better part of my life in Singapore (studied in locals schools too). Will you or I ever get approved? I don’t know. But I’d make a plan B if you want to get rid of your Pakistani passport.
I personally do not think that not doing NS should not be a blocker because they never called me up for NS in the first place.
I actually went to an International School in Singapore and not a local school but nevertheless did go to school here and did so for 13 years.
What plan B do you suggest if I want to get rid of my Pakistani passport because I really have not been able to think of or come up with any?
I really want SG citizenship because I intend to stay in Singapore in the long-term and do not want to return to Pakistan. It is also very convenient in terms of not needing a visa for most countries (has been classed as the world's best passport) compared to the Pakistani passport which needs a visa for almost everywhere. Plus, although I want to stay in Singapore for the long-term, if I was ever able to get a job outside of Singapore then I would be able to move back to Singapore whenever I want without having to worry about my PR and the likelihood of being able to renew my PR (due to living out of the country). As you can see there are so many freedoms, flexibilities and benefits of SG citizenship.
If you don't mind, would you be able to share your biodata at the time of submitting your SG citizenship application in terms of work industry and job, monthly and annual salary, when you moved to Singapore, whether or not you spent quite some time outside of the country since being a PR and if you were on student pass before PR etc?
I am asking because I am curious to know how similar or different your situation is to mine especially since we are both Pakistani PRs?
Some of the questions you have asked regarding plan B, CV of another person, comment on NS which is only your view and not the government's view, international school won't make any difference, etc makes me feel you are little lost. Sorrymidnight999 wrote: ↑Mon, 24 Oct 2022 1:14 amDo you mean that some people of certain nationalities who are Singapore PRs do not have to serve NS due to national security reasons?mystic_river wrote: ↑Sun, 23 Oct 2022 11:41 amHe’s the same case as I am. Didn’t get called up for NS because of his nationality.
OP, I’m a Pakistani PR too. Wasn’t called up for NS either. A veteran here (Mad Scientist) mentioned that some people of certain nationalities do not have to serve NS due to national security reasons.
But I would not consider that to be a blocker. I know of 2nd gen Pakistani PRs who were never called up for NS and still went on to become SG citizens.
Having said that, whether you ever actually get approved for SGC is another matter. I myself just got rejected a few months back even though I’ve been a PR since 2005 and spent a better part of my life in Singapore (studied in locals schools too). Will you or I ever get approved? I don’t know. But I’d make a plan B if you want to get rid of your Pakistani passport.
I personally do not think that not doing NS should not be a blocker because they never called me up for NS in the first place.
I actually went to an International School in Singapore and not a local school but nevertheless did go to school here and did so for 13 years.
What plan B do you suggest if I want to get rid of my Pakistani passport because I really have not been able to think of or come up with any?
I really want SG citizenship because I intend to stay in Singapore in the long-term and do not want to return to Pakistan. It is also very convenient in terms of not needing a visa for most countries (has been classed as the world's best passport) compared to the Pakistani passport which needs a visa for almost everywhere. Plus, although I want to stay in Singapore for the long-term, if I was ever able to get a job outside of Singapore then I would be able to move back to Singapore whenever I want without having to worry about my PR and the likelihood of being able to renew my PR (due to living out of the country). As you can see there are so many freedoms, flexibilities and benefits of SG citizenship.
If you don't mind, would you be able to share your biodata at the time of submitting your SG citizenship application in terms of work industry and job, monthly and annual salary, when you moved to Singapore, whether or not you spent quite some time outside of the country since being a PR and if you were on student pass before PR etc?
I am asking because I am curious to know how similar or different your situation is to mine especially since we are both Pakistani PRs?
I know a couple of families whose kids study in International Schools but still do their NS as usual. International school in Sg is not related to NS eligibility or call, if it was so many will go that route to avoid NS.MOCHS wrote: ↑Mon, 24 Oct 2022 5:43 amYou went to International School for most of your life before going abroad “so you won’t be called up to serve NS”
From ICA’s POV, how does that count as integrating into society? You’re surrounded by mostly expats, not locals. It’s already a red flag.
Did your parents convert to citizenship after all these years? If they didn’t, again, it’s another red flag since it kind of indicates they want to settle elsewhere.
Maybe marrying a local Singaporean can improve your chances but only apply after 2 years of marriage or it will look like a marriage of convenience.
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