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Re: Is it even worth living in SG anymore as a foreigner?

Post by x9200 » Sun, 30 Oct 2022 7:34 pm

Wd40 wrote:
Fri, 28 Oct 2022 12:07 am
Malaysia has really screwed up with the MM2H minimum salary requirements. The people governing the country are so pathetic, which is one of the reason why Singapore thrives.

Malaysia should ideally take advantage of the WFH crowd in Singapore and allow anyone who has a work visa in Singapore or PR/SC to live and WFH from Malaysia, in return pay some sort of tax. I think this could be a win win for both Singapore, Malaysia and also the expats who live here. This would do wonders for the Malaysian economy and kind of reduce the arbitrage that currently exists b/w Singapore and Malaysia.
Would it really be THAT impactful to Malaysia's economy? Any possible political side effects? The later does not need to be any rational at all, you know. Look at the Singapore anti-foreigner sentiments and Singapore I believe is still more tolerant within the whole spectra of possible side effects.

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Re: Is it even worth living in SG anymore as a foreigner?

Post by Lisafuller » Sun, 30 Oct 2022 8:40 pm

the observer wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 9:25 am
Singapore rental gains partly driven by Hong Kong residents

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... g-bargains
Rents in SG rose "31%" compared to last year :???:

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Re: Is it even worth living in SG anymore as a foreigner?

Post by the observer » Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:00 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 8:40 pm
the observer wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 9:25 am
Singapore rental gains partly driven by Hong Kong residents

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... g-bargains
Rents in SG rose "31%" compared to last year :???:
Old expats will blame the new expats on this

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Re: Is it even worth living in SG anymore as a foreigner?

Post by Lisafuller » Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:07 pm

x9200 wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 7:34 pm
Wd40 wrote:
Fri, 28 Oct 2022 12:07 am
Malaysia has really screwed up with the MM2H minimum salary requirements. The people governing the country are so pathetic, which is one of the reason why Singapore thrives.

Malaysia should ideally take advantage of the WFH crowd in Singapore and allow anyone who has a work visa in Singapore or PR/SC to live and WFH from Malaysia, in return pay some sort of tax. I think this could be a win win for both Singapore, Malaysia and also the expats who live here. This would do wonders for the Malaysian economy and kind of reduce the arbitrage that currently exists b/w Singapore and Malaysia.
Would it really be THAT impactful to Malaysia's economy? Any possible political side effects? The later does not need to be any rational at all, you know. Look at the Singapore anti-foreigner sentiments and Singapore I believe is still more tolerant within the whole spectra of possible side effects.
True, but you can't deny that it would do a lot to induce spending within the Malaysian economy, which would certainly help to improve things. Not that I really care as I'm perfectly happy here.

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Post by Lisafuller » Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:09 pm

the observer wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:00 pm
Lisafuller wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 8:40 pm
the observer wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 9:25 am
Singapore rental gains partly driven by Hong Kong residents

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... g-bargains
Rents in SG rose "31%" compared to last year :???:
Old expats will blame the new expats on this
There's no one to blame honestly, a lot of it is just the economy recovering from COVID.

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Re: Is it even worth living in SG anymore as a foreigner?

Post by the observer » Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:17 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:07 pm
x9200 wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 7:34 pm
Wd40 wrote:
Fri, 28 Oct 2022 12:07 am
Malaysia has really screwed up with the MM2H minimum salary requirements. The people governing the country are so pathetic, which is one of the reason why Singapore thrives.

Malaysia should ideally take advantage of the WFH crowd in Singapore and allow anyone who has a work visa in Singapore or PR/SC to live and WFH from Malaysia, in return pay some sort of tax. I think this could be a win win for both Singapore, Malaysia and also the expats who live here. This would do wonders for the Malaysian economy and kind of reduce the arbitrage that currently exists b/w Singapore and Malaysia.
Would it really be THAT impactful to Malaysia's economy? Any possible political side effects? The later does not need to be any rational at all, you know. Look at the Singapore anti-foreigner sentiments and Singapore I believe is still more tolerant within the whole spectra of possible side effects.
True, but you can't deny that it would do a lot to induce spending within the Malaysian economy, which would certainly help to improve things. Not that I really care as I'm perfectly happy here.
If they really wanted more foreign visitors/spending, they’d fixed the causeway jam decades ago.

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Re: Is it even worth living in SG anymore as a foreigner?

Post by Lisafuller » Mon, 31 Oct 2022 1:06 am

the observer wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:17 pm
Lisafuller wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:07 pm
x9200 wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 7:34 pm

Would it really be THAT impactful to Malaysia's economy? Any possible political side effects? The later does not need to be any rational at all, you know. Look at the Singapore anti-foreigner sentiments and Singapore I believe is still more tolerant within the whole spectra of possible side effects.
True, but you can't deny that it would do a lot to induce spending within the Malaysian economy, which would certainly help to improve things. Not that I really care as I'm perfectly happy here.
If they really wanted more foreign visitors/spending, they’d fixed the causeway jam decades ago.
Easier said than done, and also that's a 2 way street (literally). Though it's undeniable that the jam on the Malaysian end is MUCH worse.

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Re: Is it even worth living in SG anymore as a foreigner?

Post by x9200 » Mon, 31 Oct 2022 9:01 am

the observer wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:17 pm
Lisafuller wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:07 pm
x9200 wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 7:34 pm

Would it really be THAT impactful to Malaysia's economy? Any possible political side effects? The later does not need to be any rational at all, you know. Look at the Singapore anti-foreigner sentiments and Singapore I believe is still more tolerant within the whole spectra of possible side effects.
True, but you can't deny that it would do a lot to induce spending within the Malaysian economy, which would certainly help to improve things. Not that I really care as I'm perfectly happy here.
If they really wanted more foreign visitors/spending, they’d fixed the causeway jam decades ago.
Or even reconsider the infrastructure/approach at their side targeting the Singapore visitors. Long time ago, I think it was 15 years back, we visited Langkawi for the first time. We rented a car at the airport and on the way to our resort and nowhere near the airport, by complete accident we found a duty free liquor store. Imagine our shock coming from Singapore and seeing prices for wines a few times cheaper. Now having something like this in JB, surely it would boost tremendously weekend tourism industry :) But I doubt it is going to happen.

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Re: Is it even worth living in SG anymore as a foreigner?

Post by tiktok » Mon, 31 Oct 2022 11:54 am

My ll is asking for 60% increase. It's in line with other recent rentals in the condo. But a pretty disgusting statement of greed.
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Me no expat. Me foreigner.

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Re: Is it even worth living in SG anymore as a foreigner?

Post by NYY1 » Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:01 pm

tiktok wrote:
Mon, 31 Oct 2022 11:54 am
My ll is asking for 60% increase. It's in line with other recent rentals in the condo. But a pretty disgusting statement of greed.
Why is it greed? If it is in line with other recent rentals in the condo that sounds like "at market."

I'm not saying the increase is normal or easily handled by everyone, but why is it greed just because it's bad for renters? How many renters were paying landlords more than necessary in the 2013+ glut?

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Re: Is it even worth living in SG anymore as a foreigner?

Post by PNGMK » Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:03 pm

tiktok wrote:
Mon, 31 Oct 2022 11:54 am
My ll is asking for 60% increase. It's in line with other recent rentals in the condo. But a pretty disgusting statement of greed.
Not really. Interest rates are up and rents have been fairly depressed since the GFC. They are approaching more realistic levels for a global city.
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Re: Is it even worth living in SG anymore as a foreigner?

Post by Lisafuller » Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:07 pm

x9200 wrote:
Mon, 31 Oct 2022 9:01 am
the observer wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:17 pm
Lisafuller wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:07 pm


True, but you can't deny that it would do a lot to induce spending within the Malaysian economy, which would certainly help to improve things. Not that I really care as I'm perfectly happy here.
If they really wanted more foreign visitors/spending, they’d fixed the causeway jam decades ago.
Or even reconsider the infrastructure/approach at their side targeting the Singapore visitors. Long time ago, I think it was 15 years back, we visited Langkawi for the first time. We rented a car at the airport and on the way to our resort and nowhere near the airport, by complete accident we found a duty free liquor store. Imagine our shock coming from Singapore and seeing prices for wines a few times cheaper. Now having something like this in JB, surely it would boost tremendously weekend tourism industry :) But I doubt it is going to happen.
If I'm not mistaken, they recently introduced some entry forms that make it even more complex to enter JB, increasing wait times. It's like they don't even want us there (which I'm sure they don't).

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Re: Is it even worth living in SG anymore as a foreigner?

Post by Lisafuller » Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:08 pm

tiktok wrote:
Mon, 31 Oct 2022 11:54 am
My ll is asking for 60% increase. It's in line with other recent rentals in the condo. But a pretty disgusting statement of greed.
On its own, that's absolutely ridiculous. But if it's in line with other units in the condo, then I guess that just makes it market price.

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Re: Is it even worth living in SG anymore as a foreigner?

Post by smoulder » Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:09 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:07 pm
x9200 wrote:
Mon, 31 Oct 2022 9:01 am
the observer wrote:
Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:17 pm


If they really wanted more foreign visitors/spending, they’d fixed the causeway jam decades ago.
Or even reconsider the infrastructure/approach at their side targeting the Singapore visitors. Long time ago, I think it was 15 years back, we visited Langkawi for the first time. We rented a car at the airport and on the way to our resort and nowhere near the airport, by complete accident we found a duty free liquor store. Imagine our shock coming from Singapore and seeing prices for wines a few times cheaper. Now having something like this in JB, surely it would boost tremendously weekend tourism industry :) But I doubt it is going to happen.
If I'm not mistaken, they recently introduced some entry forms that make it even more complex to enter JB, increasing wait times. It's like they don't even want us there (which I'm sure they don't).
Not sure how recent is recent. I went there a couple of months ago and it was BAU.

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Re: Is it even worth living in SG anymore as a foreigner?

Post by Lisafuller » Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:09 pm

NYY1 wrote:
Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:01 pm
tiktok wrote:
Mon, 31 Oct 2022 11:54 am
My ll is asking for 60% increase. It's in line with other recent rentals in the condo. But a pretty disgusting statement of greed.
Why is it greed? If it is in line with other recent rentals in the condo that sounds like "at market."

I'm not saying the increase is normal or easily handled by everyone, but why is it greed just because it's bad for renters? How many renters were paying landlords more than necessary in the 2013+ glut?
Agree, if that's the market price, then charging any less would be to lose out. It's just economics. Still, that doesn't mean the prices are reasonable or justified.

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