PEP application - last drawn salary

[Justgotfired]

I am currently on a EP. My EP expires in Dec, however my last drawn salary will be in Oct. Can I apply for PEP in Dec or do I need to apply in Oct? I won’t be drawing a salary in Nov and Dec but will still have EP. So I’m wondering if MOM cares if my last drawn salary was in Oct if I apply for PEP in Dec. thank you!

[sundaymorningstaple]

Then both you and the employer will have some explaining to do. If your last drawn salary is in Oct, you EP has to be cancelled on your last day of work. If you are not drawing a salary then your EP should be cancelled by the employers. If your employer is holding your salary for tax clearance purposes you are still considered as drawing salary during the period that the salary is being withheld for taxes. You cannot claim you were not drawing salary. If you are not working from Oct to Dec the if the employer doesn't cancel you EP in Oct, the employer will be in trouble. Now, would you like to clarify exactly what you are trying to pull. Your EP expired at the end of October when your employment ceases. By law the employer must cancel your EP on your last day of work regardless of the expirey date printed on the EP.

[Justgotfired]

Then both you and the employer will have some explaining to do. If your last drawn salary is in Oct, you EP has to be cancelled on your last day of work. If you are not drawing a salary then your EP should be cancelled by the employers. If your employer is holding your salary for tax clearance purposes you are still considered as drawing salary during the period that the salary is being withheld for taxes. You cannot claim you were not drawing salary. If you are not working from Oct to Dec the if the employer doesn't cancel you EP in Oct, the employer will be in trouble. Now, would you like to clarify exactly what you are trying to pull. Your EP expired at the end of October when your employment ceases. By law the employer must cancel your EP on your last day of work regardless of the expirey date printed on the EP.

I have 4 months of gardening leave with 2 months of it being paid and 2 months unpaid. So that’s why my last drawn salary will be in Oct but my EP will end in Dec. Is this not allowed by MOM?

[sundaymorningstaple]

I think the best thing for you to do is to confirm with you HR how they intend on handling it as if you leave it till October to find out you might be up the creek without a paddle. Without us knowing what your employer is planning on doing we cannot begin to surmise a possible if any solution. Legally if you are not working and not drawing a salary you cannot be on an employment pass. In theory it has to be canceled when the two month of paid leave have expired as not drawing a salary means you are no longer eligible to hold an employment pass. You best check with your HR before you stick your foot in it up to your waist.

[Justgotfired]

I think the best thing for you to do is to confirm with you HR how they intend on handling it as if you leave it till October to find out you might be up the creek without a paddle. Without us knowing what your employer is planning on doing we cannot begin to surmise a possible if any solution. Legally if you are not working and not drawing a salary you cannot be on an employment pass. In theory it has to be canceled when the two month of paid leave have expired as not drawing a salary means you are no longer eligible to hold an employment pass. You best check with your HR before you stick your foot in it up to your waist.

Yes i will reconfirm with my HR. Thank you. So let’s say my EP will indeed be cancelled in Dec and my last drawn salary is in Oct, will that be a problem when I apply for PEP? Thank you

[NYY1]

Is there a reason you can't just apply for the PEP NOW before you stop drawing a salary? Processing time is not exactly short to begin with and varies, so why cut it so close?

I get that you are probably trying to be able to stay here as long as you can to find a new position. But given the alternative (can't be approved, won't be approved, violate some other rule), just getting the thing approved and activated right before your current drawn salary ends may be the better option.

Hope you can find another position and no need to worry about this. Good luck.

[sundaymorningstaple]

So let’s say my EP will indeed be cancelled in Dec and my last drawn salary is in Oct, will that be a problem when I apply for PEP? Thank you

Remember everything you do when it comes to ICA and MOM is kept electronically and possibly still in hard copy forever or until you get a NRIC (PR or SGC). That means if you become unemployed for any reason whatsoever, go home for as couple of years and come back you will received exactly the same FIN number. It will never change unless it is changed for NRIC.

So if you stuff this up by play-playing around, you could end up stuffing up your future chances of an EP approval as well as SG doesn't really like people who try to play the system. Good Luck. I'm out.

[Justgotfired]

So let’s say my EP will indeed be cancelled in Dec and my last drawn salary is in Oct, will that be a problem when I apply for PEP? Thank you

Remember everything you do when it comes to ICA and MOM is kept electronically and possibly still in hard copy forever or until you get a NRIC (PR or SGC). That means if you become unemployed for any reason whatsoever, go home for as couple of years and come back you will received exactly the same FIN number. It will never change unless it is changed for NRIC.

So if you stuff this up by play-playing around, you could end up stuffing up your future chances of an EP approval as well as SG doesn't really like people who try to play the system. Good Luck. I'm out.

I hear you SMS and I appreciate your advice. I’m not trying to game the system. I confirmed with my HR that my EP will be cancelled in Dec so I will be unpaid for two months on my EP. I am trying to stay in SG for as long as I can to find another job. I had no idea that MOM may frown upon this arrangement…apparently neither did my company…

So I guess I am wondering if my EP is indeed valid until Dec, whether it’s better to apply for PEP soon or wait a couple of months.

[Justgotfired]

Is there a reason you can't just apply for the PEP NOW before you stop drawing a salary? Processing time is not exactly short to begin with and varies, so why cut it so close?

I get that you are probably trying to be able to stay here as long as you can to find a new position. But given the alternative (can't be approved, won't be approved, violate some other rule), just getting the thing approved and activated right before your current drawn salary ends may be the better option.

Hope you can find another position and no need to worry about this. Good luck.

Thank you. It would be ideal to find another role quickly. I just want to be prepared for contingencies.