I think the first part in italics is correct, and it is definitely true that SC application can be rejected (i.e. PR does not guarantee SC x years down the road).gold.spot wrote: ↑Thu, 21 Jul 2022 10:19 amApproximately 30k PR given in a year. Approximately 20k SC given in a year.
If you do the simple math, you can see that PR numbers grow faster than citizenship registrations. If you are PR, your SC application can be rejected. And yes, both PR and SC are given out with a view of balancing the race percentages.
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You got this all wrong with this mentality. ICA already knows what they are looking for and they want people who are willing to sink roots here permanently, hence the name permanent residence. You are the one who has to ensure you can fulfil the PR criteria, not the other way round where you tell ICA to take it or leave it.Personally, I have enjoyed my time in SG, and I think it is time to know if SG people want me or not.
Considering they lose 1 out 3 PRs annually on an average, PR to citizenship grant ratio is 3:2 and number of total PRs remain constant - every PR is going to get guaranteed citizenship if they do what they are supposed to do - sink roots deeper and deeper.sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑Thu, 21 Jul 2022 7:35 pmThe 30K new PR vrs 20K new SGC is like that for a very valid reason. Only a portion of that is due to rejections by ICA for PR applicants to SGC. A very large number of PR EVERY YEAR give up their PR. Has been going on for donkey's years. So many, and I'm sure you can figure it out, apply for PR for the benefits only, but the ability to buy an HDB or any other subsidies they can get. The ability to get reduced medical costs. The ability to change jobs a random without worrying about REP, etc. And some decided they just don't like SG all that much. Or, they still find better, more attractive offers elsewhere. They lose on average, approximately 1 out of three PRs annually. So they grant a full third more that what is required for SGC knowing the PR attrition rates, historically speaking.
ICA does not publish what they are looking for so people don’t try to game the system. If you read the forum though, you can decipher what they want: Married, child-bearing age, integrated into Singapore, able to support themselves financially, etc. Of course, it’s not 100% guaranteed since they look at other stuff we don’t know about.I don't understand what ICA wants in immigrants.
Technically, they do publish what they want. Just that we have no idea how much weightage they give to each of these factors.MOCHS wrote: ↑Fri, 22 Jul 2022 7:50 am
ICA does not publish what they are looking for so people don’t try to game the system. If you read the forum though, you can decipher what they want: Married, child-bearing age, integrated into Singapore, able to support themselves financially, etc. Of course, it’s not 100% guaranteed since they look at other stuff we don’t know about.
It's quite obvious that you're not ideal race for PR. But you can do your best to be an ideal immigrant family and marriage/children are necessary ingredients for that. Also, if you think PR is only granted to rich folks, you should browse through this forum and you'll find PR being given to folks who are not even earning 1/5th of what your earn.vikram_khanna wrote: ↑Fri, 22 Jul 2022 1:54 amAm I not the ideal immigrant family? Do they want rich 1st world folks who can invest and spend a lot of money in SG?
Conversely, there are folks who earn double or triple of what he earns and are still unable to "crack the code"!kjose88 wrote: ↑Fri, 22 Jul 2022 10:54 amIt's quite obvious that you're not ideal race for PR. But you can do your best to be an ideal immigrant family and marriage/children are necessary ingredients for that. Also, if you think PR is only granted to rich folks, you should browse through this forum and you'll find PR being given to folks who are not even earning 1/5th of what your earn.vikram_khanna wrote: ↑Fri, 22 Jul 2022 1:54 amAm I not the ideal immigrant family? Do they want rich 1st world folks who can invest and spend a lot of money in SG?
Regarding bringing in parents, I think SG is one of the best choice in terms of how easy it is to bring parents along with you for long term if you are PR/Citizen. I am comparing with countries like UK, USA and Australia where you can bring parents max for 6 months in a year on tourist visa. Canada is an exception where you can get supervisa or even PR for your parents through a relatively less cumbersome process. As to why people don't bring old age parents as much in SG, I think it might be due to involved medical costs (if required) considering no subsidies for LTVP.smoulder wrote: ↑Fri, 22 Jul 2022 11:32 amThe other point is about bringing your parents here (should you be able to become a PR or citizen) - I'm not sure if that's really something that people do. I'm not quite sure why not, but the fact that it isn't very common, means that there are probably good reasons to not do that.
Yup, I am fully aware of the ease in bringing in parents. I'm a PR and my wife is a citizen. But like you said, the deterrents could be medical costs. I know that it is a factor when we considered my mother in law staying here long term. Obviously it will be troublesome at best to apply for a new medical insurance policy and it would have too many restrictions.kjose88 wrote: ↑Fri, 22 Jul 2022 12:06 pmRegarding bringing in parents, I think SG is one of the best choice in terms of how easy it is to bring parents along with you for long term if you are PR/Citizen. I am comparing with countries like UK, USA and Australia where you can bring parents max for 6 months in a year on tourist visa. Canada is an exception where you can get supervisa or even PR for your parents through a relatively less cumbersome process. As to why people don't bring old age parents as much in SG, I think it might be due to involved medical costs (if required) considering no subsidies for LTVP.smoulder wrote: ↑Fri, 22 Jul 2022 11:32 amThe other point is about bringing your parents here (should you be able to become a PR or citizen) - I'm not sure if that's really something that people do. I'm not quite sure why not, but the fact that it isn't very common, means that there are probably good reasons to not do that.
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