Driving into Malaysia

[x9200]

I am planing to drive to Port Dickson later this year and I was wondering how the situation evolved in the meantime, since we had the discussion in this thread.

1. I have a functional TNG eWallet with some NFC TNG cards attached and I can top them up as needed with my mobile prior to crossing the border.
2. I registered my car and have the VEP registration slip.

Now, I am trying to determine what else is critically needed... Our favorite source of local information also known as the hardware zone reports that the VEP-RFID tag is actually not needed and nobody cares about it (as of August 2023, the VEP registration is the critical part).

3. Actually, I got the tag as now getting it is practically hassle free and they can deliver it to a SG address.
I found rather odd to stick it in the middle of the headlight lamp and thinking what people normally do with it. Many sources also mention left-top side of the windscreen to place it, but what makes me wonder is I almost see no SG cars having such tags so perhaps the HWZ is right that nobody cares or there are even some reasons not to have it installed? Does it have any other practical, benign function besides the automatic toll collection?

[malcontent]

I am planing to drive to Port Dickson later this year and I was wondering how the situation evolved in the meantime, since we had the discussion in this thread.

1. I have a functional TNG eWallet with some NFC TNG cards attached and I can top them up as needed with my mobile prior to crossing the border.
2. I registered my car and have the VEP registration slip.

Now, I am trying to determine what else is critically needed... Our favorite source of local information also known as the hardware zone reports that the VEP-RFID tag is actually not needed and nobody cares about it (as of August 2023, the VEP registration is the critical part).

3. Actually, I got the tag as now getting it is practically hassle free and they can deliver it to a SG address.
I found rather odd to stick it in the middle of the headlight lamp and thinking what people normally do with it. Many sources also mention left-top side of the windscreen to place it, but what makes me wonder is I almost see no SG cars having such tags so perhaps the HWZ is right that nobody cares or there are even some reasons not to have it installed? Does it have any other practical, benign function besides the automatic toll collection?

My BIL crossed the border and went with only an enhanced TnG card a couple of weeks ago…no VEP registration, no RFID.

The only thing that happened is on the way back (while exiting Malaysia) he was told that he should go get the RFID tag over at Danga Bay. No mention of what would happen if he didn’t… maybe some toll collection plazas will stop supporting stop and tap? Wouldn’t put it past ‘em.

Not sure where you heard that VEP is now a must, they have flipped and flopped on that for years now, but nobody has ever confirmed enforcement AFAIK. I just figured they are waiting to spring that on everyone unexpectedly.

[x9200]

I believe you can't get the RFID tag without VEP. How is and whether is enforced, not sure, but it's enough to google to see multiple websites including the mentioned hwz saying you have to have it or your risk being fined.

[malcontent]

I believe you can't get the RFID tag without VEP. How is and whether is enforced, not sure, but it's enough to google to see multiple websites including the mentioned hwz saying you have to have it or your risk being fined.

I’d say, as long as you’ve got a TnG card with at least RM25 balance at a minimum, you are good to go. Don’t forget to fill at least 3/4 tank before you leave.

While you are there, if you have time to stop by and get the RFID at Danga Bay, it’s an option to consider - especially if you intend to go back again anytime soon.

[Lisafuller]

I believe you can't get the RFID tag without VEP. How is and whether is enforced, not sure, but it's enough to google to see multiple websites including the mentioned hwz saying you have to have it or your risk being fined.

I’d say, as long as you’ve got a TnG card with at least RM25 balance at a minimum, you are good to go. Don’t forget to fill at least 3/4 tank before you leave.

While you are there, if you have time to stop by and get the RFID at Danga Bay, it’s an option to consider - especially if you intend to go back again anytime soon.

Do you think they actually check if your tank is full? This has never happened to me before.

[Lisafuller]

I am planing to drive to Port Dickson later this year and I was wondering how the situation evolved in the meantime, since we had the discussion in this thread.

1. I have a functional TNG eWallet with some NFC TNG cards attached and I can top them up as needed with my mobile prior to crossing the border.
2. I registered my car and have the VEP registration slip.

Now, I am trying to determine what else is critically needed... Our favorite source of local information also known as the hardware zone reports that the VEP-RFID tag is actually not needed and nobody cares about it (as of August 2023, the VEP registration is the critical part).

3. Actually, I got the tag as now getting it is practically hassle free and they can deliver it to a SG address.
I found rather odd to stick it in the middle of the headlight lamp and thinking what people normally do with it. Many sources also mention left-top side of the windscreen to place it, but what makes me wonder is I almost see no SG cars having such tags so perhaps the HWZ is right that nobody cares or there are even some reasons not to have it installed? Does it have any other practical, benign function besides the automatic toll collection?

Haven't heard about this, don't think anybody actually cares.

[malcontent]

I believe you can't get the RFID tag without VEP. How is and whether is enforced, not sure, but it's enough to google to see multiple websites including the mentioned hwz saying you have to have it or your risk being fined.

I’d say, as long as you’ve got a TnG card with at least RM25 balance at a minimum, you are good to go. Don’t forget to fill at least 3/4 tank before you leave.

While you are there, if you have time to stop by and get the RFID at Danga Bay, it’s an option to consider - especially if you intend to go back again anytime soon.

Do you think they actually check if your tank is full? This has never happened to me before.

Yes, I have — they used to peer into the driver’s side window to check, but with zoom camera technology, it might not be needed any longer. I’ve also heard they check how low your vehicle riding - because the fuel adds weight. I would definitely not risk that one… but the VEP thing? I’ve seen all of the “hype” online, but my lived experience when I crossed earlier this year and when my BIL crossed last month (with the same vehicle that has no VEP) tells me it’s certainly NOT enforced… yet. I’m subscribed to a thread on HWZ that will light up if it ever does start getting enforced, so not too worried.

[Lisafuller]

I’d say, as long as you’ve got a TnG card with at least RM25 balance at a minimum, you are good to go. Don’t forget to fill at least 3/4 tank before you leave.

While you are there, if you have time to stop by and get the RFID at Danga Bay, it’s an option to consider - especially if you intend to go back again anytime soon.

Do you think they actually check if your tank is full? This has never happened to me before.

Yes, I have — they used to peer into the driver’s side window to check, but with zoom camera technology, it might not be needed any longer. I’ve also heard they check how low your vehicle riding - because the fuel adds weight. I would definitely not risk that one… but the VEP thing? I’ve seen all of the “hype” online, but my lived experience when I crossed earlier this year and when my BIL crossed last month (with the same vehicle that has no VEP) tells me it’s certainly NOT enforced… yet. I’m subscribed to a thread on HWZ that will light up if it ever does start getting enforced, so not too worried.

Some of my friends who live close to the border go in a couple times a month solely for gas. Doubt they go in with more than half a tank. Nothings ever happened to them though.

[PNGMK]

Do you think they actually check if your tank is full? This has never happened to me before.

Yes, I have — they used to peer into the driver’s side window to check, but with zoom camera technology, it might not be needed any longer. I’ve also heard they check how low your vehicle riding - because the fuel adds weight. I would definitely not risk that one… but the VEP thing? I’ve seen all of the “hype” online, but my lived experience when I crossed earlier this year and when my BIL crossed last month (with the same vehicle that has no VEP) tells me it’s certainly NOT enforced… yet. I’m subscribed to a thread on HWZ that will light up if it ever does start getting enforced, so not too worried.

Some of my friends who live close to the border go in a couple times a month solely for gas. Doubt they go in with more than half a tank. Nothings ever happened to them though.

They run the risk until first caught. After then they cannot risk it as they will be inspected every time. I just don't do it. Not worth saving $50 for.

[Lisafuller]

Yes, I have — they used to peer into the driver’s side window to check, but with zoom camera technology, it might not be needed any longer. I’ve also heard they check how low your vehicle riding - because the fuel adds weight. I would definitely not risk that one… but the VEP thing? I’ve seen all of the “hype” online, but my lived experience when I crossed earlier this year and when my BIL crossed last month (with the same vehicle that has no VEP) tells me it’s certainly NOT enforced… yet. I’m subscribed to a thread on HWZ that will light up if it ever does start getting enforced, so not too worried.

Some of my friends who live close to the border go in a couple times a month solely for gas. Doubt they go in with more than half a tank. Nothings ever happened to them though.

They run the risk until first caught. After then they cannot risk it as they will be inspected every time. I just don't do it. Not worth saving $50 for.

Seems logistically challenging. How do they know which cars have offended previously? I can understand scanning the plates but they check so quickly that I can't imagine there's time.

[PNGMK]

Some of my friends who live close to the border go in a couple times a month solely for gas. Doubt they go in with more than half a tank. Nothings ever happened to them though.

They run the risk until first caught. After then they cannot risk it as they will be inspected every time. I just don't do it. Not worth saving $50 for.

Seems logistically challenging. How do they know which cars have offended previously? I can understand scanning the plates but they check so quickly that I can't imagine there's time.

Auto OCR plate reading is very fast now. I have a friend who works with them. They can scam cars at high speed in a continuous stream and identify stolen cars or cars with bad numbers or blacklisted cars at over 60kph.

[Lisafuller]

They run the risk until first caught. After then they cannot risk it as they will be inspected every time. I just don't do it. Not worth saving $50 for.

Seems logistically challenging. How do they know which cars have offended previously? I can understand scanning the plates but they check so quickly that I can't imagine there's time.

Auto OCR plate reading is very fast now. I have a friend who works with them. They can scam cars at high speed in a continuous stream and identify stolen cars or cars with bad numbers or blacklisted cars at over 60kph.

Wow! Seriously. I remember being impressed over a decade ago when I drove into JB for the first time and noticed the way they flashed everybody's carplate numbers on the wall.

[x9200]

Why do they even need to scan the plates if every SG car has the ERP device?

[Lisafuller]

Why do they even need to scan the plates if every SG car has the ERP device?

ERP is just an SG thing, they don't share the same database do they?

[smoulder]

Why do they even need to scan the plates if every SG car has the ERP device?

ERP is just an SG thing, they don't share the same database do they?

Yes it's an SG thing, and the people looking for cars that violated the SG rule that SG cars must leave the country with 3/4th tank full is..... You guessed it SG.....