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PR Approval Chance 2023

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PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by globalhuman » Sun, 17 Jul 2022 3:59 am

Hi,

I would like to ask for your advice on my PR chances. I'm planning to apply mid 2023 and the below would be my profile by then.

Nationality: Indian
Age: 26
Race: Indian
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Applying for: Myself only
Education:
BSc in Industrial Engineering (Philippines)
MBA (awarded by US uni, delivered by a private institute) (Singapore)
MSc Analytics (awarded by top NZ uni, delivered by PSB Academy Singapore)
Achieved manga cum laude/distinction in all my degrees.
I have co-authored 4 peer-reviewed academic journals too.
Length of stay in SG: 4.5 years by mid 2023 (I came to SG in Jan 2019 for my masters and been here since then)
Pass type: EP (Issued Jan 2022, I was on students pass before this)
Occupation: Data Visualization Manager (Analytics role)
Salary: ~ S$70k
Work experience by mid 2023: 4.5 years (2 years in Philippines + 1.5 year remote work in Singapore but for US company during masters (no tax paid in Singapore) + 1.5 years on EP)
SG Tax Assessment: 1 year
Professional Society: INFORMS, I also hold CAP (Certified Analytics Professional) certification and Certified Six Sigma Green Belt certification.

Do I stand any chance and is it worth applying?

Thank you so much!
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Re: PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by mr.green » Sun, 17 Jul 2022 9:47 am

globalhuman wrote:
Sun, 17 Jul 2022 3:59 am
Nationality: Indian
You have a huge competition ahead of you. This is the 7.5% population pool with a ton of EP holders applying.
globalhuman wrote:
Sun, 17 Jul 2022 3:59 am
Education:
BSc in Industrial Engineering (Philippines)
MBA (awarded by US uni, delivered by a private institute) (Singapore)
MSc Analytics (awarded by top NZ uni, delivered by PSB Academy Singapore)
Achieved manga cum laude/distinction in all my degrees.
I have co-authored 4 peer-reviewed academic journals too.
Quite strong education background. However, PSB Academy study is not the same as a local degree. So those will probably be seen as foreign education. You travelled quite a bit!

The research probably doesn't hold much weight at your circumstances. Usually the dissertations you have to do add up, quite common.
globalhuman wrote:
Sun, 17 Jul 2022 3:59 am
Length of stay in SG: 4.5 years by mid 2023 (I came to SG in Jan 2019 for my masters and been here since then)
Pass type: EP (Issued Jan 2022, I was on students pass before this)

Work experience by mid 2023: 4.5 years (2 years in Philippines, 1.5 year remote work for US company during masters (no tax paid in Singapore), 1.5 years on Singapore EP)
SG Tax Assessment: 1 year
The length of stay would be good. However, you may want to wait till you pay 3 years of full time income derived income taxes.
globalhuman wrote:
Sun, 17 Jul 2022 3:59 am
Occupation: Data Visualization Manager (Analytics role)
Salary: ~ S$70k
Your salary is honestly on the low side, especially considering your double masters degrees. Indian EP holders vastly outweigh you on this.
globalhuman wrote:
Sun, 17 Jul 2022 3:59 am
Professional Society: INFORMS, I also hold CAP (Certified Analytics Professional) certification and Certified Six Sigma Green Belt certification.
This really doesn't mean anything to them unless you're an honorable position holder. Simply being a member doesn't add too much weight.

Just my 2 cents! Not an immigration expert.

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Re: PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by gold.spot » Sun, 17 Jul 2022 9:49 am

Close to zero chance.

Reasons:
1) only 1.5 year stay
2) salary is on the low side
3) many applicants of the same race
4) single

You can't change reason 3, so change reasons 1,2,and 4 and you stand a better chance.

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Re: PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by simple_guy » Sun, 17 Jul 2022 10:07 am

what should be his ideal salary then according to you???

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Re: PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by mr.green » Sun, 17 Jul 2022 10:21 am

simple_guy wrote:
Sun, 17 Jul 2022 10:07 am
what should be his ideal salary then according to you???
https://stats.mom.gov.sg/bt/Pages/salar ... loyer.aspx

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Re: PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by simple_guy » Sun, 17 Jul 2022 12:08 pm

thanks... I think he is in 65%+ ; don't think it is less at this age!

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Re: PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by MOCHS » Sun, 17 Jul 2022 1:43 pm

Work experience in other countries that isn’t Singapore holds no water for PR application. They want to see how long you’ve worked in Singapore for a continuous period of time.

Peer review journals also has zero value unless you’re looking for a job in academia. Plenty of PhD holders apply for PR too and fail to get PR so journal papers clearly doesn’t help.

Wait till you have 3 income tax assessments in Singapore then apply. Don’t over-embellish your profile either as a lot of the time, it doesn’t work at all. ICA isn’t school, stellar accomplishments won’t impress them. ICA is looking for people who want to sink roots here.

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Re: PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by davesingapore » Tue, 27 Jun 2023 8:54 pm

Share my PR Experience

in sg from 2013
applied 3 times - Rejected
4th time with proper preparation - 11 month Approved

Race : Indian
Age - 36
Husband and wife working [Aggregate salary of 200k]
2 children

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Re: PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by Lisafuller » Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:51 am

Congrats

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Re: PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by epo_anonymous » Wed, 28 Jun 2023 7:07 am

davesingapore wrote:
Tue, 27 Jun 2023 8:54 pm
Share my PR Experience

in sg from 2013
applied 3 times - Rejected
4th time with proper preparation - 11 month Approved

Race : Indian
Age - 36
Husband and wife working [Aggregate salary of 200k]
2 children

Can you explain the proper preparation part?

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Re: PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by Vicky007 » Mon, 10 Jul 2023 6:11 pm

Hi,

I would like to ask for your advice on my PR chances. I have already applied for it in Dec'21 along with spouse and elder son, and status is still pending. Living in Singapore since 2013 and this is my first attemp to it.

Nationality: Indian
Age: 37
Race: Indian
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Applied : Spouse and Elder Son (currently in K2 and going to Sparkle Totts) ; Younger son was born in 2022 so could not add him in the application but have notified ICA about it.
Education: MA in marketing strategy from University of Greenwich, London
Recently done Post Graduate Diploma in Digital Business from Emeritus (online course)
Occupation: Business Manager in Media company, handling business in APAC.
Salary: ~ Below $10K per month ; Spouse is running her catering business with monthyl salary of $4500 and business is fully registered.

Do I stand any chance?

Thank you so much!

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Re: PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 10 Jul 2023 7:55 pm

Yes. I think you do, but at the same time remember "patience is key".
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by Priya1 » Tue, 11 Jul 2023 10:43 pm

Hi All,
Indian couple, 42 and 36 years; Daughter in local primary school(P2)
Both of us on EP
Combined income ~ 350k annual, excluding bonus
Profile - Banking and Insurance. Risk Manager and Digital Product Owner
We got rejected a few times in the past.
We submitted our last application in Dec 2022.
ICA requested a letter from my daughter's educational institution. The local school has provided the letter.

Any idea if this is a good sign or has no significance?

Appreciate your replies and insights.

Many thanks

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Re: PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 12 Jul 2023 12:48 am

In your case, it is a good thing if she is in the local school system. Primarily because those in the Financial industry as somewhat of a high roller salary wise, are often passed over as potential flight risks (those who might be parachuted into another country due to their expertise and their parent company's expansion needs). I would think that would be the first hurdle as it's usually the elephant in the middle of the room. Then maybe look and the other stuff to cement their decision. OR it might be enough to sway them a bit if it is seen that by putting her into the local system it's pretty obvious that you are looking at permanence here. Good Luck and have patience. I know it's hard.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: PR Approval Chance 2023

Post by Priya1 » Wed, 12 Jul 2023 2:22 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Wed, 12 Jul 2023 12:48 am
In your case, it is a good thing if she is in the local school system. Primarily because those in the Financial industry as somewhat of a high roller salary wise, are often passed over as potential flight risks (those who might be parachuted into another country due to their expertise and their parent company's expansion needs). I would think that would be the first hurdle as it's usually the elephant in the middle of the room. Then maybe look and the other stuff to cement their decision. OR it might be enough to sway them a bit if it is seen that by putting her into the local system it's pretty obvious that you are looking at permanence here. Good Luck and have patience. I know it's hard.
Thanks a lot for your insights! Much appreciated. Hopefully, it's enough for them to see that we are seeing this as permanence as that's infact the case. My spouse has been with the same firm since 2010.

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