PR Approval 2023

[Mrsalt]

Hello all.

Just got rejected thought i’d contribute some data:

Age: 27
Gender: Male
Nationality: Vietnamese
Race: Vietnamese
Education: NUS bachelor
Length of Work Experience: 4 years
Length of Stay in Singapore: 9 years
Salary: ~70k/year
Industry: Aerospace MRO
Marital Status : Single

This is my first PR application - applied in 27/3/2023 rejected 07/8/2023.

Any advice for what changes i need to make before reapplying would be much grateful

[MOCHS]

Any advice for what changes i need to make before reapplying would be much grateful

You didn’t mentioned which pass you’re on. If S-pass, get an EP instead.

Get married, preferably to a local and have some babies. I’m not encouraging a marriage of convenience though.

[Mrsalt]

Any advice for what changes i need to make before reapplying would be much grateful

You didn’t mentioned which pass you’re on. If S-pass, get an EP instead.

Get married, preferably to a local and have some babies. I’m not encouraging a marriage of convenience though.

Im on EP since getting job after student pass.

My current gf is s pass Filipino though… would it still help if i marry her?

[sundaymorningstaple]

Any advice for what changes i need to make before reapplying would be much grateful

You didn’t mentioned which pass you’re on. If S-pass, get an EP instead.

Get married, preferably to a local and have some babies. I’m not encouraging a marriage of convenience though.

Im on EP since getting job after student pass.

My current gf is s pass Filipino though… would it still help if i marry her?

What is her occupation?

[Mrsalt]

You didn’t mentioned which pass you’re on. If S-pass, get an EP instead.

Get married, preferably to a local and have some babies. I’m not encouraging a marriage of convenience though.

Im on EP since getting job after student pass.

My current gf is s pass Filipino though… would it still help if i marry her?

What is her occupation?

Store front receptionist.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Good Luck. You may need it.

[singaporeflyer]

Any advice for what changes i need to make before reapplying would be much grateful

You didn’t mentioned which pass you’re on. If S-pass, get an EP instead.

Get married, preferably to a local and have some babies. I’m not encouraging a marriage of convenience though.

Im on EP since getting job after student pass.

My current gf is s pass Filipino though… would it still help if i marry her?

1. Don't marry thinking it may help for PR
2. Also marrying a foreigner may not help for PR.

[PartyLike-A-Russian]

Hello All,

Unfortunately, my PR got rejected after waiting for 19 months. It was my first time ever and have been living in Singapore since 2013. I applied with my elder son and wife (could not include my younger son as he was born post applying but have intimated the ICA and they had advised to wait for the outcome before i include him as well). The rejection letter says 'we have evaluated your application carefully, taking into consideration all the documents you have submitted'.

- Is this normal update that people get from ICA if their application is not successful?
- I had updated ICA on my salary increment about a month back so they should be aware of this change, can i still appeal?
- Do i need to wait at least for 6 months before i think of applying again?

Hoping to see your suggestions.

Thanks!

There is something I thought of, but nobody suggested it, unfortunately. You said your elder kid was in K2. Put him to a local school and then re-apply. I'm not very experienced in giving PR advice, but in my humble opinion the applicant's kids in a local school is something that is more important than a salary hike.

May God (and ICA) grant your family PR next time!

[hopeislife]

There is something I thought of, but nobody suggested it, unfortunately. You said your elder kid was in K2. Put him to a local school and then re-apply. I'm not very experienced in giving PR advice, but in my humble opinion the applicant's kids in a local school is something that is more important than a salary hike.

May God (and ICA) grant your family PR next time!

Choosing the local school for a foreigner's kid is not under one's control. Its up to the mercy of MOE or the schools to give a slot to a foreigner if any is in excess. If a foreigner's kid cannot find any available seats in a local school, he is forced to send his/her kid to an International School. There are many cases like this, and so if it makes sense, your kid not in local school should not be influencing the pr much.

[PartyLike-A-Russian]

There is something I thought of, but nobody suggested it, unfortunately. You said your elder kid was in K2. Put him to a local school and then re-apply. I'm not very experienced in giving PR advice, but in my humble opinion the applicant's kids in a local school is something that is more important than a salary hike.

May God (and ICA) grant your family PR next time!

Choosing the local school for a foreigner's kid is not under one's control. Its up to the mercy of MOE or the schools to give a slot to a foreigner if any is in excess. If a foreigner's kid cannot find any available seats in a local school, he is forced to send his/her kid to an International School. There are many cases like this, and so if it makes sense, your kid not in local school should not be influencing the pr much.

Sms wouldn't agree with you. In one of his posts he said, "Being in an international school is definitely a minus. But being in a local school might not be a plus." Unfortunately, unable to find the post and provide a link.

hopeislife, any anecdotal evidence Indians/Others with kids in International Schools got PR recently?

[hopeislife]

There is something I thought of, but nobody suggested it, unfortunately. You said your elder kid was in K2. Put him to a local school and then re-apply. I'm not very experienced in giving PR advice, but in my humble opinion the applicant's kids in a local school is something that is more important than a salary hike.

May God (and ICA) grant your family PR next time!

Choosing the local school for a foreigner's kid is not under one's control. Its up to the mercy of MOE or the schools to give a slot to a foreigner if any is in excess. If a foreigner's kid cannot find any available seats in a local school, he is forced to send his/her kid to an International School. There are many cases like this, and so if it makes sense, your kid not in local school should not be influencing the pr much.

Sms wouldn't agree with you. In one of his posts he said, "Being in an international school is definitely a minus. But being in a local school might not be a plus." Unfortunately, unable to find the post and provide a link.

hopeislife, any anecdotal evidence Indians/Others with kids in International Schools got PR recently?

I'm not saying being in international school is a positive, but I'm just saying will ICA see a kids/parents who tried their best to get into local school and failed as a negative point? Yes, may be there is a thumb rule that sometimes pr potential family's kids are given local schools, but that does not mean that all such families can get into local school. The number of families that get pr with kids in international school is not zero, but may be less than the number of familes with kids in local school. The point is you cannot just blame the parent for not sending the kids to local school when it is not in their hands and when they tried their best.

[PartyLike-A-Russian]

I'm not saying being in International School is a positive, but I'm just saying will ICA see a kids/parents who tried their best to get into local school and failed as a negative point? Yes, may be there is a thumb rule that sometimes pr potential family's kids are given local schools, but that does not mean that all such families can get into local school. The number of families that get pr with kids in international school is not zero, but may be less than the number of familes with kids in local school. The point is you cannot just blame the parent for not sending the kids to local school when it is not in their hands and when they tried their best.

Sure thing, I have no right to blame anyone. And as to the rest of the message, we can spend months trying to guess how ICA make decisions, and we will never know how close to the truth we are Instead, let wish you and others God's help, good luck and peace!

[sundaymorningstaple]

Sadly, hopeislife, is our newest wannabe but doesn't have the legs that have traveled the distance like a lot of us. ICA tends to be slow to back off of thumb rules used in years gone by when it was easy to get into the local schools (not necessarily close to where you live but there were sufficient slots and a lot went unfilled because the average expatriate was loath to put their children into local systems as they felt the schooling was inferior but when asked why, then, where local children in math and spelling olympiads at international levels winning everywhere. We know why, but again, most newbies don't as they haven't traveled the distance. This is why it all his "opinion" which actually is of absolutely no help to anybody as I've stated before. I'm one who opted for the local school system way back in the 1980's. Its done well for my offspring. The majority who didn't back then were using the PR not for what was intended, e.g., the pathway to Citizenship. Therefore they rather use the international educational systems more akin to their home countries. Dead giveaway as to their intents. Still much the same. although it's harder to get into the local system now as more are realizing the value of the local education versus 20~40K per child in an International School per year.

[rntheone]

Hi,

I'm a regular reader of this forum and it has been quite helpful to go through multiple threads here. I fairly know my chances and what to expect from my PR application. I'm just posting here for benefit of those looking for information.

Male, aged 38
Nationality and Race: Indian
Length of Stay in Singapore: ~8 years
Education: Masters in India
Pass: EP since arrival
Field of Employment: Semiconductors
Salary: 125K basic + variable $$ / Stocks
Work experience: 6.5 years in Company X, Since then until now in Company Y

Family status: Married and have a 10 year old daughter, all 3 in Singapore since arrival
Spouse: Bachelors(India), Working(EP) in Software, 100K basic pay + variable $

Earlier applications(Applied with family, Primary applicant:Self in all 3 applications):
April 2017: Rejected in 5 months
July 2019: Rejected in 6 months
Now applied in Aug 2022, Been pending for 11 months.

Change from last application:
- Basic salaries increased by over 40%
- Daughter joined Public school, now 3rd consecutive year

Update: Pending still(1 year and 2months+ since appln)

[hopeislife]

Update: Pending still(1 year and 2months+ since appln)

Hmm, but sorry to say it may not be positive this time. Anyway good luck and let us know the outcome here. Personally, i feel it may take a few more years and since you say your daughter is 10yrs old, i think chances will be much higher if she can score well in PSLE, while or before applying for PR for whole family.

I say this because, i personally know an indian family where husband got pr 10yrs before and wife on LTVP now. They have 2 daughters, one of age 12 now and other i think 4 years younger. The older daughter just got her pr just a few months ago after some months of PSLE completion and completed formalities. One of the reasons the family and I felt is that she got good grades in PSLE and might have influenced her approval for pr. The previous applications were not successful before PSLE. I am not sure if they applied for pr for whole family or just for elder daughter alone in the recent application. Also, not to forget the fact that the father is pr.

1 year mark for indian pr applicants is nothing in todays scenario. So keep waiting for the results. It can go either way and if not approved, next time may be good chance with PSLE grades.