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Extension of STVP

Post by David294 » Fri, 08 Jul 2022 8:40 pm

Hi All

I'm nearing the end of a 90 day STVP. I also have an IPA for a PEP for which I have until early October to activate. I would like to extend my STVP by the maximum 89 days allowable so I can delay as late as possible the processing of my PEP.

According to ICA, extensions can be for 30 days or 89 days if you have a Singaporean sponsor. I did a dry run on the ICA online application and what the ICA actually means by sponsor is that you have a family member here who's a citizen or PR. If you click yes to family you get the option of extending by either 30 or 89 days. If you click no, you only get the 30 day option. I don't have family here. There is provision in the online form to add additional remarks where I can explain my circumstances.

Anyone know whether an 89 day extension is possible without family in Singapore? And if I am forced to check the 30 day option, as it's the only option for me, anyone heard of whether ICA takes into consideration the additional remarks to allow for an 89 day extension given the circumstances?

Thanks

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Re: Extension of STVP

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 09 Jul 2022 12:04 am

So, let me see if I understand this correctly. You have been here for 3 months already give or take a week or so. And you currently have a PEP IPA already in hand. Okay so far? Did you get your IPA from abroad or did you apply for it after you landed in Singapore (I have to assume you were not currently working here as you can only get a 30 day SVP once you give up your Employment Pass. I'm also guessing you haven't been able to come up with a suitable job offer thus far. I fail to see how any remarks will make a difference to an ICA officer as to me it looks like you are trying to game the system. As you are on an SVP I can't see any logical circumstance that would warrant an extension. Especially considering it is cheaper to stay in M'sia or other ASEAN countries if you wanted to be close by to return for an Interview. What possible circumstance could/would warrant a 2nd 89 day visa.
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Re: Extension of STVP

Post by David294 » Sat, 09 Jul 2022 11:12 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Sat, 09 Jul 2022 12:04 am
So, let me see if I understand this correctly. You have been here for 3 months already give or take a week or so. And you currently have a PEP IPA already in hand. Okay so far? Did you get your IPA from abroad or did you apply for it after you landed in Singapore (I have to assume you were not currently working here as you can only get a 30 day SVP once you give up your Employment Pass. I'm also guessing you haven't been able to come up with a suitable job offer thus far. I fail to see how any remarks will make a difference to an ICA officer as to me it looks like you are trying to game the system. As you are on an SVP I can't see any logical circumstance that would warrant an extension. Especially considering it is cheaper to stay in M'sia or other ASEAN countries if you wanted to be close by to return for an Interview. What possible circumstance could/would warrant a 2nd 89 day visa.
Seriously this forum sucks balls.

The condescending and holier than thou attitude of this guy is beyond reproach. He seemingly thinks on every post he has some cryptic ability to cut through every OP, casting them as nefarious players while attempting to condescendingly putting them down, as if he is the upholder and safe keeper of Singapore's borders.

Frankly, apart from speculation, guessing, anecdotes, all his posts I see here are based on conjecture. None based on genuine knowledge of the workings on MOM or ICA. And to mask his lack of real knowledge in this space he revels in his snobbish, judgmental and sanctimonious soul in vein attempts to "expose" posters.

A legend in his own mind and a legend on this dying board. And the same can be said for all the minions who support him.

I suspect you will delete this post. And if that power makes you feel better then go right ahead.

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Re: Extension of STVP

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 09 Jul 2022 2:21 pm

Why would I delete this. This only exposes your own insecurity instead of giving us a reason to see if it would hold water or not. We cannot give you anything if you cannot give us something to work with. When it comes to ICA and Immigration officers in EVERY country they are a law unto themselves and keep their cards very close to their chests. So gathering evidence and weighing it against what we have picked up on over a long period of time, often keeps us pretty much in the know but nothing that can be related as a fact other than what you also can read on their website or via phone call to ICA. Sometimes if we know enough, we can and do make speculations. With ICA it is all speculation except what you find on their website or get in writing via email.

Now, if you are finished with your tantrum, feel free to come back to the conversation. But I suspect your foolish pride after you little tirade will prevent that. In either case I hope you can get an extension without a sponsor.
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Re: Extension of STVP

Post by nakatago » Wed, 13 Jul 2022 11:06 am

David294 wrote:
Fri, 08 Jul 2022 8:40 pm
Hi All

I'm nearing the end of a 90 day STVP. I also have an IPA for a PEP for which I have until early October to activate. I would like to extend my STVP by the maximum 89 days allowable so I can delay as late as possible the processing of my PEP.

According to ICA, extensions can be for 30 days or 89 days if you have a Singaporean sponsor. I did a dry run on the ICA online application and what the ICA actually means by sponsor is that you have a family member here who's a citizen or PR. If you click yes to family you get the option of extending by either 30 or 89 days. If you click no, you only get the 30 day option. I don't have family here. There is provision in the online form to add additional remarks where I can explain my circumstances.

Anyone know whether an 89 day extension is possible without family in Singapore? And if I am forced to check the 30 day option, as it's the only option for me, anyone heard of whether ICA takes into consideration the additional remarks to allow for an 89 day extension given the circumstances?

Thanks
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Re: Extension of STVP

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 14 Jul 2022 2:28 am

Thanks Nak. Lately, when I see a thread going south, I just lock the OP's post after they have posted which prevents editing by them. His posts were locked about 20 minutes after he posted the 2nd one. :mrgreen: It's still hard to get folks to quote the opening post. In fact I guilty of it as well (especially at 3 am in the morning (it's 2:30 am at the moment).
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Re: Extension of STVP

Post by malcontent » Thu, 14 Jul 2022 1:25 pm

Back when I first moved here on my own without a job, I tried my luck with SVP extensions for as long as I could. I knew I’d end up in Malaysia if I ever got rejected - but that was always a last resort, because border runs have their limits - and it’s not like I can just go back home easily (22 hour flight!)

Fortunately they kept on extending, even beyond what they were supposed to (later an ICA officer spotted it and remarked to another officer with an eye roll “here is another one… not supposed to extend more than three times”). The other thing that happened on my first extension they only gave 14 days instead of 30. After an appeal, they agreed to revise it to 30 and therefore subsequent extensions were also 30 (that was the reason we didn’t want to accept the initial 14).
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