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Re: PR Chances

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 21 Jun 2022 2:43 pm

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Tue, 21 Jun 2022 1:34 pm
Hi all,

Would be good to get your views/insights on my chances for PR. Please note, my application has already been submitted and has been pending 4+ months.

Application details:

1) salary: $195k + 5 month bonus (variable year on year basis)
2) industry: venture capital
3) age: 31
4) marital status: single, no kids
5) nationality: Indian
6) time in Singapore: 12 years
7) degree: high school from Singapore/bachelor degree from the united states

One point to mention, my family are Singaporean citizens (including my sister). They got their PR and Citzenship while I was studying overseas and my family also offered to fly me back to Singapore/pause my further education to serve NS. However, the immigration officer at the time declined and said I was too old and will need to apply on my own merit (I have highlighted this in the cover letter as well).

Thanks in advance!

However, the immigration officer at the time declined and said I was too old and will need to apply on my own merit (I have highlighted this in the cover letter as well).

Do you have documentation for the above?

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Re: PR Chances

Post by mystic_river » Tue, 21 Jun 2022 3:54 pm

I don’t think it’s going to help whether he has documentation of this. It really just means when his family applied for PR/Citizenship he was above 21 already (correct me if I’m wrong OP) and so whether they flew him back to serve NS didn’t matter.

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Re: PR Chances

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 21 Jun 2022 7:54 pm

mystic_river wrote:
Tue, 21 Jun 2022 3:54 pm
I don’t think it’s going to help whether he has documentation of this. It really just means when his family applied for PR/Citizenship he was above 21 already (correct me if I’m wrong OP) and so whether they flew him back to serve NS didn’t matter.
I had to read it 3x but I came to the same conclusion. He went overseas for his tertiary education before they applied for PR and subsequently SGC. He was never a PR and now he's reached the age of majority (21) he cannot get PR on his parents coattails but must qualify on his own merits.
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Re: PR Chances

Post by Sgtck » Tue, 21 Jun 2022 8:01 pm

Apologies as I wasn’t clear. The immigration officer said he will make a “note of the fact that the family offered to bring the son back in the system”. My parents did ask for documentation but were told they cannot do that.

Mystic_river is correct. I was never PR/overseas for education when my families immigration status changed in sg.

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Re: PR Chances

Post by mystic_river » Tue, 21 Jun 2022 9:35 pm

Sgtck wrote:
Tue, 21 Jun 2022 8:01 pm
Apologies as I wasn’t clear. The immigration officer said he will make a “note of the fact that the family offered to bring the son back in the system”. My parents did ask for documentation but were told they cannot do that.

Mystic_river is correct. I was never PR/overseas for education when my families immigration status changed in sg.
Were you over the age of 21 when your parents first applied for PR? If yes, then I don’t see any issues and barring your ethnicity your chances should be pretty good.

There would be a problem if you were below 21 when your parents applied for PR for themselves and didn’t include you (as that could be construed as you avoiding PR).

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Re: PR Chances

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 24 Jun 2022 10:57 am

Sgtck wrote:
Tue, 21 Jun 2022 8:01 pm
Apologies as I wasn’t clear. The immigration officer said he will make a “note of the fact that the family offered to bring the son back in the system”. My parents did ask for documentation but were told they cannot do that.

Mystic_river is correct. I was never PR/overseas for education when my families immigration status changed in sg.
@sgtck - u deleted the main post. But the post is quoted. So no issues.

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Re: PR Chances

Post by John1541 » Fri, 24 Jun 2022 7:52 pm

Dear All,

Just wanted to get your view. Myself 37 years old from India staying and working in Singapore 10+ years and working for Global Bank with 170k+ Annual salary with Bonus and my wife is 30 Years old, staying in Singapore for 10+ years and she is not working. We were married for 10 years.

We have 2.5 years baby boy who born in India and currently going playschool in SG.

Applied for PR 5 times so far. 5th Attemp status is pending. Applied on May 2021 and updated ICA about my promotion in Dec 2021. In Feb 2022, ICA sent an email for my wife education details and i responded and in May 2022 ICA sent an email for Family Vitae and i responded.

Background of my family details are, My wife does not have siblings and her father in retired teacher now he is 72 years old and mother is 65 years old. They have pension and rental income. So no dependent on us. From my side, father is pass away and mother is in her 60's looking after agriculture farms and i have one younger brother and he is into Business.

After 17th May 2022 , no update from ICA. I know ICA will take time to come back and writing here will not change my outcome also 😊

Here just wanted see any similar cases and their outcome.

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Re: PR Chances

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 24 Jun 2022 11:09 pm

John1541 wrote:
Fri, 24 Jun 2022 7:52 pm
Dear All,

Just wanted to get your view. Myself 37 years old from India staying and working in Singapore 10+ years and working for Global Bank with 170k+ Annual salary with Bonus and my wife is 30 Years old, staying in Singapore for 10+ years and she is not working. We were married for 10 years.

We have 2.5 years baby boy who born in India and currently going playschool in SG.

Applied for PR 5 times so far. 5th Attemp status is pending. Applied on May 2021 and updated ICA about my promotion in Dec 2021. In Feb 2022, ICA sent an email for my wife education details and i responded and in May 2022 ICA sent an email for Family Vitae and i responded.

Background of my family details are, My wife does not have siblings and her father in retired teacher now he is 72 years old and mother is 65 years old. They have pension and rental income. So no dependent on us. From my side, father is pass away and mother is in her 60's looking after agriculture farms and i have one younger brother and he is into Business.

After 17th May 2022 , no update from ICA. I know ICA will take time to come back and writing here will not change my outcome also 😊

Here just wanted see any similar cases and their outcome.
You may get it

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Re: PR Chances

Post by John1541 » Mon, 12 Sep 2022 10:27 am

Just to update all, still my application is pending. Its been 16 months. There was query about my mother in law profile on 4th August. After that no other update. Not sure whats happening. Hopefully some good news 😊

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Re: PR Chances

Post by truthhurts1 » Mon, 12 Sep 2022 5:12 pm

John1541 wrote:
Mon, 12 Sep 2022 10:27 am
Just to update all, still my application is pending. Its been 16 months. There was query about my mother in law profile on 4th August. After that no other update. Not sure whats happening. Hopefully some good news 😊

Seems you will get it this time man.. I have applied 3 times in 9 years and got my rejection exactly in 4 months.. applied the 4th time in June but I know there are no chances at all

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Re: PR Chances

Post by John1541 » Fri, 16 Sep 2022 9:19 am

Hopefully. Its hard to take it if rejected after waited for this much long time.

Last time i did apply in 2020 and rejected in 6 months. With this application included my son and better salary
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Re: PR Chances

Post by gold.spot » Fri, 16 Sep 2022 9:26 am

John1541 wrote:
Fri, 16 Sep 2022 9:19 am
Hopefully. Its hard to take it if rejected after waited for this much long time.

Last time i did apply in 202 and rejected in 6 months. With this application included my son and better salary
You applied in 202x, and you say your son is 2.5 years old. Hmmmmmm. All I can say is that if you applied after your son was born, you kind of screwed yourself over, for that application in 202x as well as for future applications.

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Re: PR Chances

Post by Wd40 » Sat, 17 Sep 2022 3:18 pm

I don't understand why accomplished Indians are applying for PR and ICA would be making a mistake giving PR to 180-250k salary Indians. These people's kids are also going to be accomplished individuals and won't stay in Singapore. They will fly to US, Europe or somewhere for their education and then their parents will also follow them or go back to India and stay near their extended families.

ICA would be better off giving PR to average Indian families, who would most likely stay in Singapore, as they would value Singapore's education system and won't have a lot of money to send their kids overseas either.

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Re: PR Chances

Post by simple_guy » Sat, 17 Sep 2022 9:29 pm

Wd40 wrote:
Sat, 17 Sep 2022 3:18 pm
I don't understand why accomplished Indians are applying for PR and ICA would be making a mistake giving PR to 180-250k salary Indians. These people's kids are also going to be accomplished individuals and won't stay in Singapore. They will fly to US, Europe or somewhere for their education and then their parents will also follow them or go back to India and stay near their extended families.

ICA would be better off giving PR to average Indian families, who would most likely stay in Singapore, as they would value Singapore's education system and won't have a lot of money to send their kids overseas either.
Do you think that accomplished Indian (who are applying for PR) can't get a job outside of Singapore at present ? If they or their kids will think that US/Europe are better, then their parents should make their life easy by immigrating to those countries now, rather than letting their kids struggling (again)to get citizenship of other countries.

So I think every Individual has their own preference. Its subjective and not objective!

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Re: PR Chances

Post by Wd40 » Sun, 18 Sep 2022 3:41 pm

simple_guy wrote:
Sat, 17 Sep 2022 9:29 pm
Wd40 wrote:
Sat, 17 Sep 2022 3:18 pm
I don't understand why accomplished Indians are applying for PR and ICA would be making a mistake giving PR to 180-250k salary Indians. These people's kids are also going to be accomplished individuals and won't stay in Singapore. They will fly to US, Europe or somewhere for their education and then their parents will also follow them or go back to India and stay near their extended families.

ICA would be better off giving PR to average Indian families, who would most likely stay in Singapore, as they would value Singapore's education system and won't have a lot of money to send their kids overseas either.
Do you think that accomplished Indian (who are applying for PR) can't get a job outside of Singapore at present ? If they or their kids will think that US/Europe are better, then their parents should make their life easy by immigrating to those countries now, rather than letting their kids struggling (again)to get citizenship of other countries.

So I think every Individual has their own preference. Its subjective and not objective!
People go with the flow and Singapore has lot of advantages which Indians like, like weather, low taxes etc. But the time to make the decision happens when the kids need to go to college. If it is male child, accomplished Indians would look at NS as a deterrent and even otherwise consider overseas education for college.

Ask anyone in your circle of accomplished Indians what is their plans for their kids college.

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