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PR Chances 2022 if return to Singapore

Post by bear99 » Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:56 pm

Hi,

My spouse and I both previously lived in Singapore but moved to the US in 2015-16. We're thinking about a long-term future and are considering moving back to Singapore, but we would only want to do so if we would have a good chance at settling long-term. Trying to get a sense of odds of us being able to successfully apply for PR as a family within a couple of years if we move back soon.

We have one child, a male preschooler, and we are aware this would mean NS for him.

ME
Age: 37
Nationality: USA
Ethnicity: White
Language: English, proficient Mandarin
Education: BA and MA from prestigious US universities
Current Industry: Finance
Salary in USA: USD 200k+
Time in Singapore previously: 3+ years

Spouse
Age: 42
Nationality: USA, born in China
Ethnicity: Chinese
Language: Native-level in both Mandarin and English
Education: BA in China from top-5 university, MA from highly-ranked university in USA
Current Industry: Finance
Salary in USA: ~USD 175k
Time in Singapore previously: 5+ years

Any help appreciated. Thank you.

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Re: PR Chances 2022 if return to Singapore

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 09 Jun 2022 1:31 pm

bear99 wrote:
Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:56 pm
Hi,

My spouse and I both previously lived in Singapore but moved to the US in 2015-16. We're thinking about a long-term future and are considering moving back to Singapore, but we would only want to do so if we would have a good chance at settling long-term. Trying to get a sense of odds of us being able to successfully apply for PR as a family within a couple of years if we move back soon.

We have one child, a male preschooler, and we are aware this would mean NS for him.

ME
Age: 37
Nationality: USA
Ethnicity: White
Language: English, proficient Mandarin
Education: BA and MA from prestigious US universities
Current Industry: Finance
Salary in USA: USD 200k+
Time in Singapore previously: 3+ years

Spouse
Age: 42
Nationality: USA, born in China
Ethnicity: Chinese
Language: Native-level in both Mandarin and English
Education: BA in China from top-5 university, MA from highly-ranked university in USA
Current Industry: Finance
Salary in USA: ~USD 175k
Time in Singapore previously: 5+ years

Any help appreciated. Thank you.
You can stay and work longterm on EP. PR is surely not going to be easy and you have a history of leaving Singapore for work.

All you past experiences/stay in Sg will now reset to 0 for PR.

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Re: PR Chances 2022 if return to Singapore

Post by bear99 » Thu, 09 Jun 2022 1:53 pm

Thank you.

That's helpful to know that past stays in SG will not matter even though we would be moving back because we now realized that its the place we want to be after moving elsewhere.

I imagine our ages would also be a factor that would make PR more difficult.

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Re: PR Chances 2022 if return to Singapore

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 09 Jun 2022 3:22 pm

bear99 wrote:
Thu, 09 Jun 2022 1:53 pm
Thank you.

That's helpful to know that past stays in SG will not matter even though we would be moving back because we now realized that its the place we want to be after moving elsewhere.

I imagine our ages would also be a factor that would make PR more difficult.
Age - yes. Not an issue now if you are the main applicant

But ethinic quota, moving away from SG in the past will make your chances very low.

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Re: PR Chances 2022 if return to Singapore

Post by NYY1 » Thu, 09 Jun 2022 4:12 pm

I'm not sure what you classify as a "good chance" as the threshold for giving it a shot? Greater than 50:50? Regardless, I think the best you could do is give it a shot and apply somewhere in the 2-5 year timeframe (longer end probably better) and realize you may not be able to get it.

Exactly how old is your kid and are you targeting the local schools or International Schools? For local school, admission is much easier if he can obtain PR by the summer he turns 6 years old. If not, will need to try Phase 3 P1 Registration (spots not guaranteed) or AEIS (pass a test a year later for admission in P2).

One other thing to consider, if you believe the news articles there are a lot of people from HK looking to come here. Not sure what that means for getting finance jobs on EP (unless internal transfer with existing company). It could also mean more competition in one of the buckets for PR in subsequent years.

Out of curiosity, where in the US have you been based since leaving SG in 2015-2016?

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Re: PR Chances 2022 if return to Singapore

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 09 Jun 2022 5:12 pm

NYY1 wrote:
Thu, 09 Jun 2022 4:12 pm
I'm not sure what you classify as a "good chance" as the threshold for giving it a shot? Greater than 50:50? Regardless, I think the best you could do is give it a shot and apply somewhere in the 2-5 year timeframe (longer end probably better) and realize you may not be able to get it.

Exactly how old is your kid and are you targeting the local schools or International Schools? For local school, admission is much easier if he can obtain PR by the summer he turns 6 years old. If not, will need to try Phase 3 P1 Registration (spots not guaranteed) or AEIS (pass a test a year later for admission in P2).

One other thing to consider, if you believe the news articles there are a lot of people from HK looking to come here. Not sure what that means for getting finance jobs on EP (unless internal transfer with existing company). It could also mean more competition in one of the buckets for PR in subsequent years.

Out of curiosity, where in the US have you been based since leaving SG in 2015-2016?
Finance jobs - usually has a pay that meet market standards or exceeds and so I don't forsee any issue with EP, unless the job pays very low.

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Re: PR Chances 2022 if return to Singapore

Post by NYY1 » Thu, 09 Jun 2022 5:29 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 09 Jun 2022 5:12 pm
NYY1 wrote:
Thu, 09 Jun 2022 4:12 pm
I'm not sure what you classify as a "good chance" as the threshold for giving it a shot? Greater than 50:50? Regardless, I think the best you could do is give it a shot and apply somewhere in the 2-5 year timeframe (longer end probably better) and realize you may not be able to get it.

Exactly how old is your kid and are you targeting the local schools or International Schools? For local school, admission is much easier if he can obtain PR by the summer he turns 6 years old. If not, will need to try Phase 3 P1 Registration (spots not guaranteed) or AEIS (pass a test a year later for admission in P2).

One other thing to consider, if you believe the news articles there are a lot of people from HK looking to come here. Not sure what that means for getting finance jobs on EP (unless internal transfer with existing company). It could also mean more competition in one of the buckets for PR in subsequent years.

Out of curiosity, where in the US have you been based since leaving SG in 2015-2016?
Finance jobs - usually has a pay that meet market standards or exceeds and so I don't forsee any issue with EP, unless the job pays very low.
Yes, to meet the statutory requirements should be no problem. I meant more from a) not an infinite supply of these jobs here and b) not sure how many new EPs they want to issue all for one sector at once?

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