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China Eastern plane deliberately downed?

Post by abbby » Wed, 18 May 2022 8:22 pm

It felt so initially when the news came out, why would the plane fly down in such speed and decline.. :???:
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Post by smoulder » Wed, 18 May 2022 9:57 pm

Where's this theory coming from?

OK. Never mind. I just Google searched.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/1 ... sh-reports

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Post by PNGMK » Thu, 19 May 2022 7:51 am

Most planes don't go straight down unless commanded to (i.e. pushed down - with the exception of a spin but then more modern planes have spin correction) so most of the time when you see these events (like the Silk Air flight, the Egypt Air flight off US) it's a suicidal pilot.
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Re: China Eastern plane deliberately downed?

Post by nelyanne » Thu, 19 May 2022 11:02 am

I wouldn't be surprised if more Chinese pilots start doing this...

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Post by smoulder » Thu, 19 May 2022 11:21 am

nelyanne wrote:
Thu, 19 May 2022 11:02 am
I wouldn't be surprised if more Chinese pilots start doing this...
Why would you think that?

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Re: China Eastern plane deliberately downed?

Post by nelyanne » Fri, 20 May 2022 10:14 am

smoulder wrote:
Thu, 19 May 2022 11:21 am
nelyanne wrote:
Thu, 19 May 2022 11:02 am
I wouldn't be surprised if more Chinese pilots start doing this...
Why would you think that?
Crazy Chinese rules, risk of constantly being in a quarantine centre, no plans to reopen the borders, not easy to change a job...

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/ ... ovid-rules - this article is about Hong Kong, but in China it may be even worse

https://www.icao.int/MID/Documents/RPTF ... lights.pdf - rules from China Southern Airlines

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Post by Lisafuller » Tue, 24 May 2022 12:20 am

smoulder wrote:
Wed, 18 May 2022 9:57 pm
Where's this theory coming from?

OK. Never mind. I just Google searched.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/1 ... sh-reports
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Post by Lisafuller » Tue, 24 May 2022 12:21 am

PNGMK wrote:
Thu, 19 May 2022 7:51 am
Most planes don't go straight down unless commanded to (i.e. pushed down - with the exception of a spin but then more modern planes have spin correction) so most of the time when you see these events (like the Silk Air flight, the Egypt Air flight off US) it's a suicidal pilot.
Incredibly sad for all the innocent lives that were lost. Suicide is always a tragedy regardless of the circumstances, but it’s just so selfish to take others down with you.

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Post by Lisafuller » Tue, 24 May 2022 12:23 am

nelyanne wrote:
Fri, 20 May 2022 10:14 am
smoulder wrote:
Thu, 19 May 2022 11:21 am
nelyanne wrote:
Thu, 19 May 2022 11:02 am
I wouldn't be surprised if more Chinese pilots start doing this...
Why would you think that?
Crazy Chinese rules, risk of constantly being in a quarantine centre, no plans to reopen the borders, not easy to change a job...

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/ ... ovid-rules - this article is about Hong Kong, but in China it may be even worse

https://www.icao.int/MID/Documents/RPTF ... lights.pdf - rules from China Southern Airlines
Yup, the situation in China has seemed pretty bleak recently, especially with the forced quarantines. I’ve read about so many frazzled residents jumping to their deaths from their apartment blocks out of desperation.

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Re: China Eastern plane deliberately downed?

Post by Lisafuller » Tue, 24 May 2022 12:23 am

smoulder wrote:
Thu, 19 May 2022 11:21 am
nelyanne wrote:
Thu, 19 May 2022 11:02 am
I wouldn't be surprised if more Chinese pilots start doing this...
Why would you think that?
Have you seen the videos of residents in China screaming out of the windows of their apartment buildings because they’ve been barred from leaving, even to get food?

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Re: China Eastern plane deliberately downed?

Post by nelyanne » Tue, 24 May 2022 10:36 am

Lisafuller wrote:
Tue, 24 May 2022 12:23 am
nelyanne wrote:
Fri, 20 May 2022 10:14 am
smoulder wrote:
Thu, 19 May 2022 11:21 am


Why would you think that?
Crazy Chinese rules, risk of constantly being in a quarantine centre, no plans to reopen the borders, not easy to change a job...

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/ ... ovid-rules - this article is about Hong Kong, but in China it may be even worse

https://www.icao.int/MID/Documents/RPTF ... lights.pdf - rules from China Southern Airlines
Yup, the situation in China has seemed pretty bleak recently, especially with the forced quarantines. I’ve read about so many frazzled residents jumping to their deaths from their apartment blocks out of desperation.
Not sure whether it would make you feel any better, but I've heard that those videos of people jumping out of the windows are some old content, not related to the current lockdown. Yes, many terrible things are happening, but there is some fake news as well. The reality in China is so strange that sometimes it's hard to tell what is true or not...

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Re: China Eastern plane deliberately downed?

Post by Lisafuller » Wed, 25 May 2022 1:21 am

I’ve seen plenty of vids in the news that are supposedly recent, can tell by cam quality too that they are not old incidents.

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