Hi SMS, I am not really familiar with the whole thing about government's attitude toward Vietnamese, so will not comment much on that.sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑Wed, 27 Apr 2022 11:11 pmBased on ethnicity I think your chances are extremely low. I will not say zero, but unless you are ethnically a Chinese Vietnamese (not Kinh) the government here is not too VN friendly when it comes to immigration here. Not saying it doesn't occasionally happen (once in a blue moon) but sadly the PAP led government has 1975 mentality with regard to VN. I am personally well aware of the issues as I worked from 1988 to 1991 with UNHCR during the mass exodus of your people when being finally released from re-education camps there. In addition to that I'm also an AMVET chopper pilot during the war 1966-1968 so had a lot of interaction with the government during the 3.5 years working with UNHCR from the various refugee camps in S.E.Asia (including the Hawkins Road Camp here in Singapore). Singapore was the only country in S.E. Asia that flatly refused to take any refugees for resettlement and also had bad habit of giving boats fuel, water and some food and towed them back out into international waters (SG Navy). My advice is if you are Kinh Vietnamese, look towards Canada, US and possibly Aus. There are huge Vietnamese communities in both Canada and the US as they took the vast majority of the refugees. Even if you were to get PR here, it would be highly unlikely for you to ever get SGC. It is what it is and I'm sorry to be so negative, but it's only fair to you.
NB: I pretty much guessed your were from VN with my second guess being from the 'peens.
I've been here in Singapore for 40 years this coming June. I spent 18 months in your country during the war. Very familiar with the whole thing.
Yeah, I knew about the Scholar invitation thing. I also know if one did not take it up when offered, it was highly unlikely to be successful if you tried after working for a couple of years (regardless of which ASEAN country you were from). In fact, they stopped offering it as too few actually took them up on the offer as most "wanted to keep their options open" thereby sealing their fate with regard to Singapore.
The things about "wanted to keep their options open" is interesting, because that was exactly the mindset of some people in my wife's cohort that time (and the batch before). However, from our (both me and wife) point of view, in 2022, getting the PR back then should actually give you "more options". It's not like they banned PR from going anywhere right?
Hope you have some luck on your next PR application. You sound like somebody who would be an asset to this country. I wish you luck.Pantsgrenadier wrote: ↑Sat, 30 Apr 2022 3:48 pmThe things about "wanted to keep their options open" is interesting, because that was exactly the mindset of some people in my wife's cohort that time (and the batch before). However, from our (both me and wife) point of view, in 2022, getting the PR back then should actually give you "more options". It's not like they banned PR from going anywhere right?
Fair point, but as noted, it does seem to be a 'thing' at that age. A couple of years in the work force soon teaches you the difference but then you tend to get settled in and become more hesitant to make the jump into the unknown. (Kind of like I'm still here after 40 years (albeit I've started my own dynasty here and the third generation is grown to 3 now - I got more blood here than I do in the US now.
Among my tiny circle, I never knew any Vnamese PR who could obtain the PR for their spouse. Either they get PR on their own, or one of them is a citizen. So your accountant's situation may not be too far from common. Regarding SGC, maybe the fact that my wife came here since secondary school, not uni, gave ICA more confidence that she can assimilate in Singapore society better? Just my guess.
Actually I was thinking along those same lines when I was scripting my first reply but was also looking along the baby factory thinking as well. That's why is so easy for M'sian Chinese girls to get PR here, easy assimilation, right ethnicity and fertile. Something the country needs badly.
From what I understand, male student who get PR is required to go NS. Hence, that might be the reason that most of the guys in my wife's cohort is among the 40% who never applied for PR. However, there was this particular guy; he got PR after secondary school and went on to obtain citizenship before completing JC. Everyone was so shocked, because that was the real "sealing other options" that we talked above.
This is what usually stalls most male ASEAN graduates - the NS issue.
My wife, a northerner, never counted the number of students from reach region. But the fact that her group of friends, about 4-5 northerner, all got their PR, may give us the hint that VN communism is no longer a threat by the 2000s haha. In fact, it's quite hard to qualify VN as a communist country nowadays.
This is true.
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