PR Approval Probability 2022

[singaporeflyer]

Overall ok, except for the stay in JB for your husband

Does this mean that ICA will actually consider where the applicants stay?

Ofcourse PR is Permanent Resident / Residence.

[Wd40]

Hi esivauee,

SG Citizen Indian origin here. I am also an immigrant citizen albeit 2+ decades ahead of you in terms of age with two grown-up children (both working professionals)

Trust me - given your background (race, education, professional experience etc) - you will be much better off applying for Australia or Canada PR and moving there once your Australia/Canada PR gets approved (which it should).

ICA has been giving PR/SC to Indians much less these days. If you wait too long, then it becomes difficult to migrate out once you cross 35.

The UK is also a good choice. If you can find a job in the UK and work there for 5 years, you get UK PR automatically which is not the case in Singapore.

Also, from your children's point of view, raising children in countries like Australia, Canada or UK is much better - far less stressful than Singapore is.

I have seen younger Indian friends who earn 200K+ per year, lived in Singapore for more than 10 years and yet can not get PR. Unfortunately, the Singapore immigration process is very opaque.

My two cents worth. Hope this helps.

Brilliant post. I think most Indians who continue to stay here and keep applying for PR, inspite of knowing that the chances are so little, is because, none of the other countries like Canada, UK or Australia etc are like Singapore. I know there are some people who just want to get the hell out of India to somewhere, only those people will consider the other locations. But there are some things about Singapore, if they appeal to you, then you would rather just continue to stay here on EP as long as possible and then eventually go back to India.

So what is it about Singapore that appeals Indians?
1) Biggest factor is racism in SG is not in your face. Most people will not bother you and leave you alone whereever you go in public.
2) Weather, just like India(mainly the south)
3) Real Indian culture, the Indian temples in Singapore are as authentic as those in south India.
4) Very easy availability of fresh Indian groceries and vegetables and almost everything you get in India, you get here. This beats it: the Indian vegetable shops in Singapore give you some corriander and curry leaves free if you buy vegetables worth like $15-20. I mean this is as familiar as it gets to Indian way of doing business I known an Indian family who went to Zurich and were shocked to find out that a small bunch of corriander leaves cost 10CHF, lol.

[Wd40]

Great advice..hope all these indian normies with indian wives and working take this advice, getting a PR is difficult becoz too many Indian normies are applying each and every year and most of them have no intention to stay here long term, this spoils the apple cart for some indian people like me who haven’t been to India for 7+ Years and have no family/ ties in india

The UK is also a good choice. If you can find a job in the UK and work there for 5 years, you get UK PR automatically which is not the case in Singapore.

Also, from your children's point of view, raising children in countries like Australia, Canada or UK is much better - far less stressful than Singapore is.

I have seen younger Indian friends who earn 200K+ per year, lived in Singapore for more than 10 years and yet can not get PR. Unfortunately, the Singapore immigration process is very opaque.

My two cents worth. Hope this helps.

Actually it is the normies who like SG, because SG is a pretty normie country. For non-normies, liberal western countries are even better. I dont know why would you stick around here, you have way better opportunities in the west, both careerwise as well as finding other non-normies

[MOCHS]

Interestingly, one of the Indian researchers I work with got her & husband’s PR recently approved on the first try. No kids though. They were surprised by it since their friends with similar profiles all got rejected. She did her PhD here and has worked in SG research for over 5 years now so she does not work in IT/tech or earning big bucks. Her research is pretty ordinary to me too. So it seems she applied after being here for about 8-9 years instead of rushing to apply within 1-2 years of being here.

She met & married her Iranian-Indian husband in SG too. They are keen to wait 3 years before getting a resale HDB and both do intend to convert to SG citizenship.

She sounds pretty Singaporean to me already, used to life here and goes back to visit her parents 2 weeks max or else she misses the food here in SG. ICA works in mysterious ways. *shrug*

[truthhurts1]

Great advice..hope all these indian normies with indian wives and working take this advice, getting a PR is difficult becoz too many Indian normies are applying each and every year and most of them have no intention to stay here long term, this spoils the apple cart for some indian people like me who haven’t been to India for 7+ Years and have no family/ ties in india

The UK is also a good choice. If you can find a job in the UK and work there for 5 years, you get UK PR automatically which is not the case in Singapore.

Also, from your children's point of view, raising children in countries like Australia, Canada or UK is much better - far less stressful than Singapore is.

I have seen younger Indian friends who earn 200K+ per year, lived in Singapore for more than 10 years and yet can not get PR. Unfortunately, the Singapore immigration process is very opaque.

My two cents worth. Hope this helps.

Actually it is the normies who like SG, because SG is a pretty normie country. For non-normies, liberal western countries are even better. I dont know why would you stick around here, you have way better opportunities in the west, both careerwise as well as finding other non-normies

One important reason I am here coz I wanna get married with my gf whose also a PR and make Singapore my home forever, what’s stopping the marriage is the uncertainty that comes with these PR applications and the fact that so many of us are applying at the same time,I would rather get my PR first and then get married.

[Wd40]

Interestingly, one of the Indian researchers I work with got her & husband’s PR recently approved on the first try. No kids though. They were surprised by it since their friends with similar profiles all got rejected. She did her PhD here and has worked in SG research for over 5 years now so she does not work in IT/tech or earning big bucks. Her research is pretty ordinary to me too. So it seems she applied after being here for about 8-9 years instead of rushing to apply within 1-2 years of being here.

She met & married her Iranian-Indian husband in SG too. They are keen to wait 3 years before getting a resale HDB and both do intend to convert to SG citizenship.

She sounds pretty Singaporean to me already, used to life here and goes back to visit her parents 2 weeks max or else she misses the food here in SG. ICA works in mysterious ways. *shrug*

Wow, good for them! I think the key is they are not the typical template Indian family. So non template Indian families have a better chance I guess. Non template Indian families typically cannot go back to India or to the Spouse's home country, so they are pretty much stuck in Singapore I guess and ICA sees that as a positive. For example an Indian marries a Russian in SG. The Russian will not be able to settle in India and the Indian will not be able to settle in Russia. If it is a marriage with local then it is kind of a given that PR will come through and rightfully so.

[MOCHS]

I would rather get my PR first and then get married.

I advise doing the opposite. Get married, wait 1-2 years after marriage, then ask your PR wife to sponsor you. Easier to get PR via family ties scheme than own merit.

[truthhurts1]

I would rather get my PR first and then get married.

I advise doing the opposite. Get married, wait 1-2 years after marriage, then ask your PR wife to sponsor you. Easier to get PR via family ties scheme than own merit.

That’s a good suggestion that I will seriously think about, thank you very much

[smoulder]

I would rather get my PR first and then get married.

I advise doing the opposite. Get married, wait 1-2 years after marriage, then ask your PR wife to sponsor you. Easier to get PR via family ties scheme than own merit.

That’s a good suggestion that I will seriously think about, thank you very much

I agree with the suggestion. I was kind of in the same boat as you. The only difference was that I never thought of not marrying because I was on an EP. It just wasn't a factor. While in theory we knew that my chances of approval were higher, we were also mentally prepared for the other outcome - that I would never be approved.

[mewithc]

Hi everyone

After 8 years here I've found myself with a Singaporean guy of my dreams, in a serious relationship, planning to get married/house/kids in next 1-2yrs.

So me applying for PR/SC which I have never tried/considered before (but will be a GREAT help for our future together) comes to mind.

Any advise on chances, schemes, resale home purchase, planning etc , anything future related at all , greatly appreciated!

Myself:
31yo Burmese
Degree from University in Myanmar
8years in SG
Employment here:
Nurse, charitable organization/hospital for last 8yrs
Spass @ 30K+ Annual

Not sure if any implications:
Brought half consumed btl of wine back from Malaysia this year (thought open btls were ok). Screening officer found it, was made to pay GST & informed incident will be placed on record.

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Spouse:
35yo Singaporean Chinese
Degree from Singapore University of Social Sciences
Shipping industry @ 55K+ (Basic x 13 months)

Thank you!

[singaporeflyer]

Hi everyone

After 8 years here I've found myself with a Singaporean guy of my dreams, in a serious relationship, planning to get married/house/kids in next 1-2yrs.

So me applying for PR/SC which I have never tried/considered before (but will be a GREAT help for our future together) comes to mind.

Any advise on chances, schemes, resale home purchase, planning etc , anything future related at all , greatly appreciated!

Myself:
31yo Burmese
Degree from University in Myanmar
8years in SG
Employment here:
Nurse, charitable organization/hospital for last 8yrs
Spass @ 30K+ Annual

Not sure if any implications:
Brought half consumed btl of wine back from Malaysia this year (thought open btls were ok). Screening officer found it, was made to pay GST & informed incident will be placed on record.

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Spouse:
35yo Singaporean Chinese
Degree from Singapore University of Social Sciences
Shipping industry @ 55K+ (Basic x 13 months)

Thank you!

Wait and apply after 2 years of marriage. Till then chances are low

[mewithc]

Wait and apply after 2 years of marriage. Till then chances are low

If we have a baby within 2 years of marriage , does it make sense to try during pregnancy / after baby is born for cost savings
Or should we stick to application after 2 years of marriage?

Thank you

[singaporeflyer]

Wait and apply after 2 years of marriage. Till then chances are low

If we have a baby within 2 years of marriage , does it make sense to try during pregnancy / after baby is born for cost savings
Or should we stick to application after 2 years of marriage?

Thank you

After a kid is born is OK. But why the rush?

[mewithc]

Wait and apply after 2 years of marriage. Till then chances are low

If we have a baby within 2 years of marriage , does it make sense to try during pregnancy / after baby is born for cost savings
Or should we stick to application after 2 years of marriage?

Thank you

After a kid is born is OK. But why the rush?

I recall there are significant cost savings eg. with childbirth as SPR vs foreigner , that is why we are trying to do some preplanning for years ahead

[singaporeflyer]

If we have a baby within 2 years of marriage , does it make sense to try during pregnancy / after baby is born for cost savings
Or should we stick to application after 2 years of marriage?

Thank you

After a kid is born is OK. But why the rush?

I recall there are significant cost savings eg. with childbirth as SPR vs foreigner , that is why we are trying to do some preplanning for years ahead

This is one of the reason ICA would want to wait and give. There are many who want to take advantage of the subsidies, etc.

Also spouse is SC, will automatically get benefits for child, assuming the child is also SC