Relocating, travelling or planning to make Singapore home? Discuss the criterias, passes or visa that is required.
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by AmbitionPS » Wed, 12 Jul 2023 12:21 am
hopeislife wrote: ↑Tue, 11 Jul 2023 11:41 am
PrashantSharma3 wrote: ↑Sun, 09 Jul 2023 1:36 am
singaporeflyer wrote: ↑Sat, 08 Jul 2023 6:53 pm
There are many applicants
1. who had inquiry from ICA and were later rejected also
2. No inquiry at all and approved
So, there is no clear pattern, etc.
So, please wait patiently and don't believe in patterns.
Thanks for your inputs. Lets wait

Will update here the outcome here.
Hi Prashant, would just like to know if you have done or doing donations or worked for any charity organization?
I have been doing charity regularly and volunteering when time permits.
However the intention for charity is not to get PR. Rather it is more of my personal reasons.
I donate lump amount every month to organisations doing good work for handicapped old people in SG.
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by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 12 Jul 2023 1:07 am
Charity via money or time is a total waste of both. The Subcontinent so abused this little perk about 15 years ago a number of years after I joined this board. It was so abused it was hard on the organizations as they had dependable (so it seemed) contributors or volunteers until the individual received their PR and then they promptly disappeared into the mists. The abuse was rampant throughout all facets of society from religious organizations to museums to the People's Association groups (Resident's committees, Community Centres) Blood donation drives. You name it. Now, it's a total waste of time and could very well be detrimental to your application as if you happen to be from a South Asian country, you will be assumed to be also an abuser. Your countrymen who came before you, burned the bridges. There are enough old timers on this board who have been through it all and have seen the changes themselves.
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by JoMan » Tue, 18 Jul 2023 6:02 pm
Apologies for asking (probably) the dumbest question - while PR application is under processing, (logically speaking) "Apply for PR link" in My ICA page should be disabled, right? If it is active, is it a sign of impending negative outcome?
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by epo_anonymous » Tue, 18 Jul 2023 8:10 pm
JoMan wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 6:02 pm
Apologies for asking (probably) the dumbest question - while PR application is under processing, (logically speaking) "Apply for PR link" in My ICA page should be disabled, right? If it is active, is it a sign of impending negative outcome?
No. Doesn’t work that way.
Can you still submit documents?
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by hopeislife » Tue, 18 Jul 2023 9:28 pm
JoMan wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 6:02 pm
Apologies for asking (probably) the dumbest question - while PR application is under processing, (logically speaking) "Apply for PR link" in My ICA page should be disabled, right? If it is active, is it a sign of impending negative outcome?
Actually why are you being so stressed and impatient about your PR application? I understand that you have appealed just 1 or 2 months ago. Appeals can take few to several months (to know the result), and most likely the result of the original application wont change (if ICA is not moved by your appeal). My sincere advise is just stay patient, calm, meditate and breath deeply, instead of fidgeting around indirect ways to find whether your appeal is approved or rejected. If in case it is rejected, at least wait till ICA says that decision, and later you can decide on next plan. In the days between now and the result date, you can at least be happy, instead of going crazy to find ways to know the result. So be happy now and if the result comes positive, then you can continue to be happy; if result is not positive then you can overcome and see what can be done.
Anyway, you might have already earned a few crores of Indian rupees in all these years here, and currently you and your wife are making 1.8 crore indian rupees (SGD 300k) per annum. This is good enough for a luxury retirement in India. You can also plan for a good retirement back in India if PR is elusive for you here.
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by AmbitionPS » Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:35 am
hopeislife wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 9:28 pm
JoMan wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 6:02 pm
Apologies for asking (probably) the dumbest question - while PR application is under processing, (logically speaking) "Apply for PR link" in My ICA page should be disabled, right? If it is active, is it a sign of impending negative outcome?
Actually why are you being so stressed and impatient about your PR application? I understand that you have appealed just 1 or 2 months ago. Appeals can take few to several months (to know the result), and most likely the result of the original application wont change (if ICA is not moved by your appeal). My sincere advise is just stay patient, calm, meditate and breath deeply, instead of fidgeting around indirect ways to find whether your appeal is approved or rejected. If in case it is rejected, at least wait till ICA says that decision, and later you can decide on next plan. In the days between now and the result date, you can at least be happy, instead of going crazy to find ways to know the result. So be happy now and if the result comes positive, then you can continue to be happy; if result is not positive then you can overcome and see what can be done.
Anyway, you might have already earned a few crores of Indian rupees in all these years here, and currently you and your wife are making 1.8 crore indian rupees (SGD 300k) per annum. This is good enough for a luxury retirement in India. You can also plan for a good retirement back in India if PR is elusive for you here.
Haha. Nailed it.
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by AmbitionPS » Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:36 am
hopeislife wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 9:28 pm
JoMan wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 6:02 pm
Apologies for asking (probably) the dumbest question - while PR application is under processing, (logically speaking) "Apply for PR link" in My ICA page should be disabled, right? If it is active, is it a sign of impending negative outcome?
Actually why are you being so stressed and impatient about your PR application? I understand that you have appealed just 1 or 2 months ago. Appeals can take few to several months (to know the result), and most likely the result of the original application wont change (if ICA is not moved by your appeal). My sincere advise is just stay patient, calm, meditate and breath deeply, instead of fidgeting around indirect ways to find whether your appeal is approved or rejected. If in case it is rejected, at least wait till ICA says that decision, and later you can decide on next plan. In the days between now and the result date, you can at least be happy, instead of going crazy to find ways to know the result. So be happy now and if the result comes positive, then you can continue to be happy; if result is not positive then you can overcome and see what can be done.
Anyway, you might have already earned a few crores of Indian rupees in all these years here, and currently you and your wife are making 1.8 crore indian rupees (SGD 300k) per annum. This is good enough for a luxury retirement in India. You can also plan for a good retirement back in India if PR is elusive for you here.
Haha. Nailed it.
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by JoMan » Wed, 19 Jul 2023 6:26 am
epo_anonymous wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 8:10 pm
JoMan wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 6:02 pm
Apologies for asking (probably) the dumbest question - while PR application is under processing, (logically speaking) "Apply for PR link" in My ICA page should be disabled, right? If it is active, is it a sign of impending negative outcome?
No. Doesn’t work that way.
Can you still submit documents?
Option to upload/submit new documents was not available from day 1 of appeal processing.
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by JoMan » Wed, 19 Jul 2023 6:38 am
hopeislife wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 9:28 pm
JoMan wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 6:02 pm
Apologies for asking (probably) the dumbest question - while PR application is under processing, (logically speaking) "Apply for PR link" in My ICA page should be disabled, right? If it is active, is it a sign of impending negative outcome?
Actually why are you being so stressed and impatient about your PR application? I understand that you have appealed just 1 or 2 months ago. Appeals can take few to several months (to know the result), and most likely the result of the original application wont change (if ICA is not moved by your appeal). My sincere advise is just stay patient, calm, meditate and breath deeply, instead of fidgeting around indirect ways to find whether your appeal is approved or rejected. If in case it is rejected, at least wait till ICA says that decision, and later you can decide on next plan. In the days between now and the result date, you can at least be happy, instead of going crazy to find ways to know the result. So be happy now and if the result comes positive, then you can continue to be happy; if result is not positive then you can overcome and see what can be done.
Anyway, you might have already earned a few crores of Indian rupees in all these years here, and currently you and your wife are making 1.8 crore indian rupees (SGD 300k) per annum. This is good enough for a luxury retirement in India. You can also plan for a good retirement back in India if PR is elusive for you here.
Hahaha... thanks for going above and beyond and providing life lessons - I thought only my question was dumb till I read your take on luxury retirement in India - To each their own.... Have a good day mate..
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by IndSgp2023 » Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:22 am
JoMan wrote: ↑Wed, 19 Jul 2023 6:38 am
hopeislife wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 9:28 pm
JoMan wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 6:02 pm
Apologies for asking (probably) the dumbest question - while PR application is under processing, (logically speaking) "Apply for PR link" in My ICA page should be disabled, right? If it is active, is it a sign of impending negative outcome?
Actually why are you being so stressed and impatient about your PR application? I understand that you have appealed just 1 or 2 months ago. Appeals can take few to several months (to know the result), and most likely the result of the original application wont change (if ICA is not moved by your appeal). My sincere advise is just stay patient, calm, meditate and breath deeply, instead of fidgeting around indirect ways to find whether your appeal is approved or rejected. If in case it is rejected, at least wait till ICA says that decision, and later you can decide on next plan. In the days between now and the result date, you can at least be happy, instead of going crazy to find ways to know the result. So be happy now and if the result comes positive, then you can continue to be happy; if result is not positive then you can overcome and see what can be done.
Anyway, you might have already earned a few crores of Indian rupees in all these years here, and currently you and your wife are making 1.8 crore indian rupees (SGD 300k) per annum. This is good enough for a luxury retirement in India. You can also plan for a good retirement back in India if PR is elusive for you here.
Hahaha... thanks for going above and beyond and providing life lessons - I thought only my question was dumb till I read your take on luxury retirement in India - To each their own.... Have a good day mate..
Hahahahaha... Exactly my thoughts. Some very wrong misconceptions about luxury retirement in India. Or may the definition of the luxury is poles apart.
But I do agree with not stressing about PR. If it happens, good, but it doesn't, going back is not a bad option either.
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by hopeislife » Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:43 am
JoMan wrote: ↑Wed, 19 Jul 2023 6:38 am
hopeislife wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 9:28 pm
JoMan wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 6:02 pm
Apologies for asking (probably) the dumbest question - while PR application is under processing, (logically speaking) "Apply for PR link" in My ICA page should be disabled, right? If it is active, is it a sign of impending negative outcome?
Actually why are you being so stressed and impatient about your PR application? I understand that you have appealed just 1 or 2 months ago. Appeals can take few to several months (to know the result), and most likely the result of the original application wont change (if ICA is not moved by your appeal). My sincere advise is just stay patient, calm, meditate and breath deeply, instead of fidgeting around indirect ways to find whether your appeal is approved or rejected. If in case it is rejected, at least wait till ICA says that decision, and later you can decide on next plan. In the days between now and the result date, you can at least be happy, instead of going crazy to find ways to know the result. So be happy now and if the result comes positive, then you can continue to be happy; if result is not positive then you can overcome and see what can be done.
Anyway, you might have already earned a few crores of Indian rupees in all these years here, and currently you and your wife are making 1.8 crore indian rupees (SGD 300k) per annum. This is good enough for a luxury retirement in India. You can also plan for a good retirement back in India if PR is elusive for you here.
Hahaha... thanks for going above and beyond and providing life lessons - I thought only my question was dumb till I read your take on luxury retirement in India - To each their own.... Have a good day mate..
Every human is dumb in some way. I am nobody to give a life lesson and you may be more experienced than me as you are quite senior to my age. Sorry if i sounded like giving a life lesson, but i just thought of saying how i might have felt if i was in your position (with your profile), i.e. even if not PR, at least you will have had around INR 20crores at the age of 55 or so. Could be even more.
But yes, it depends on how much you see as a luxury retirement and in which city. INR 20crore or so should be ok for a luxury life in India, unless you have Ambani kind of definition for a luxury life.
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by JoMan » Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:11 pm
hopeislife wrote: ↑Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:43 am
JoMan wrote: ↑Wed, 19 Jul 2023 6:38 am
hopeislife wrote: ↑Tue, 18 Jul 2023 9:28 pm
Actually why are you being so stressed and impatient about your PR application? I understand that you have appealed just 1 or 2 months ago. Appeals can take few to several months (to know the result), and most likely the result of the original application wont change (if ICA is not moved by your appeal). My sincere advise is just stay patient, calm, meditate and breath deeply, instead of fidgeting around indirect ways to find whether your appeal is approved or rejected. If in case it is rejected, at least wait till ICA says that decision, and later you can decide on next plan. In the days between now and the result date, you can at least be happy, instead of going crazy to find ways to know the result. So be happy now and if the result comes positive, then you can continue to be happy; if result is not positive then you can overcome and see what can be done.
Anyway, you might have already earned a few crores of Indian rupees in all these years here, and currently you and your wife are making 1.8 crore indian rupees (SGD 300k) per annum. This is good enough for a luxury retirement in India. You can also plan for a good retirement back in India if PR is elusive for you here.
Hahaha... thanks for going above and beyond and providing life lessons - I thought only my question was dumb till I read your take on luxury retirement in India - To each their own.... Have a good day mate..
Every human is dumb in some way. I am nobody to give a life lesson and you may be more experienced than me as you are quite senior to my age. Sorry if i sounded like giving a life lesson, but i just thought of saying how i might have felt if i was in your position (with your profile), i.e. even if not PR, at least you will have had around INR 20crores at the age of 55 or so. Could be even more.
But yes, it depends on how much you see as a luxury retirement and in which city. INR 20crore or so should be ok for a luxury life in India, unless you have Ambani kind of definition for a luxury life.
Thanks but no thanks

1) My question was no way related to retirement planning - I even had a disclaimer in the beginning that its a dumb question regarding PR application results. 2) I have replied in my previous post - to each his own - still you are making wild assumptions about my saving habits and corpus amount I will end up at the age of 55 - totally unwarranted 3) Your numbers are completely wrong - INR 20 crores is close to 3.3 million SGD - My total earnings for the next 10 years will be that - How can the entire amount be saved? then what about my family's expenses here - rental, Income Tax, School fees, living expenses etc. (now please don't start that you may have saved xx dollars in the last 12 years - my financials are not for public consumption). I rest my case here.. mic drop

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by hopeislife » Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:26 pm
JoMan wrote: ↑Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:11 pm
hopeislife wrote: ↑Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:43 am
JoMan wrote: ↑Wed, 19 Jul 2023 6:38 am
Hahaha... thanks for going above and beyond and providing life lessons - I thought only my question was dumb till I read your take on luxury retirement in India - To each their own.... Have a good day mate..
Every human is dumb in some way. I am nobody to give a life lesson and you may be more experienced than me as you are quite senior to my age. Sorry if i sounded like giving a life lesson, but i just thought of saying how i might have felt if i was in your position (with your profile), i.e. even if not PR, at least you will have had around INR 20crores at the age of 55 or so. Could be even more.
But yes, it depends on how much you see as a luxury retirement and in which city. INR 20crore or so should be ok for a luxury life in India, unless you have Ambani kind of definition for a luxury life.
Thanks but no thanks

1) My question was no way related to retirement planning - I even had a disclaimer in the beginning that its a dumb question regarding PR application results. 2) I have replied in my previous post - to each his own - still you are making wild assumptions about my saving habits and corpus amount I will end up at the age of 55 - totally unwarranted 3) Your numbers are completely wrong - INR 20 crores is close to 3.3 million SGD - My total earnings for the next 10 years will be that - How can the entire amount be saved? then what about my family's expenses here - rental, Income Tax, School fees, living expenses etc. (now please don't start that you may have saved xx dollars in the last 12 years - my financials are not for public consumption). I rest my case here.. mic drop
As you wish my friend........

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by smoulder » Thu, 20 Jul 2023 12:26 am
JoMan wrote: ↑Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:11 pm
hopeislife wrote: ↑Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:43 am
JoMan wrote: ↑Wed, 19 Jul 2023 6:38 am
Hahaha... thanks for going above and beyond and providing life lessons - I thought only my question was dumb till I read your take on luxury retirement in India - To each their own.... Have a good day mate..
Every human is dumb in some way. I am nobody to give a life lesson and you may be more experienced than me as you are quite senior to my age. Sorry if i sounded like giving a life lesson, but i just thought of saying how i might have felt if i was in your position (with your profile), i.e. even if not PR, at least you will have had around INR 20crores at the age of 55 or so. Could be even more.
But yes, it depends on how much you see as a luxury retirement and in which city. INR 20crore or so should be ok for a luxury life in India, unless you have Ambani kind of definition for a luxury life.
Thanks but no thanks

1) My question was no way related to retirement planning - I even had a disclaimer in the beginning that its a dumb question regarding PR application results. 2) I have replied in my previous post - to each his own - still you are making wild assumptions about my saving habits and corpus amount I will end up at the age of 55 - totally unwarranted 3) Your numbers are completely wrong - INR 20 crores is close to 3.3 million SGD - My total earnings for the next 10 years will be that - How can the entire amount be saved? then what about my family's expenses here - rental, Income Tax, School fees, living expenses etc. (now please don't start that you may have saved xx dollars in the last 12 years - my financials are not for public consumption). I rest my case here.. mic drop
More pertinent point is that your chances for approval are not the brightest, to put it mildly. If you do get it, you would be beating tremendous odds. You would probably do well to have a plan B in place, possibly along the lines of what was suggested, or anything else that floats your boat.
To answer your question directly, from what I recall, it's quite normal to have a new application number assigned when you appeal a rejection. It means very little though other than you have a few more weeks or months to dream....
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by JoMan » Thu, 20 Jul 2023 10:44 am
smoulder wrote: ↑Thu, 20 Jul 2023 12:26 am
JoMan wrote: ↑Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:11 pm
hopeislife wrote: ↑Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:43 am
Every human is dumb in some way. I am nobody to give a life lesson and you may be more experienced than me as you are quite senior to my age. Sorry if i sounded like giving a life lesson, but i just thought of saying how i might have felt if i was in your position (with your profile), i.e. even if not PR, at least you will have had around INR 20crores at the age of 55 or so. Could be even more.
But yes, it depends on how much you see as a luxury retirement and in which city. INR 20crore or so should be ok for a luxury life in India, unless you have Ambani kind of definition for a luxury life.
Thanks but no thanks

1) My question was no way related to retirement planning - I even had a disclaimer in the beginning that its a dumb question regarding PR application results. 2) I have replied in my previous post - to each his own - still you are making wild assumptions about my saving habits and corpus amount I will end up at the age of 55 - totally unwarranted 3) Your numbers are completely wrong - INR 20 crores is close to 3.3 million SGD - My total earnings for the next 10 years will be that - How can the entire amount be saved? then what about my family's expenses here - rental, Income Tax, School fees, living expenses etc. (now please don't start that you may have saved xx dollars in the last 12 years - my financials are not for public consumption). I rest my case here.. mic drop
More pertinent point is that your chances for approval are not the brightest, to put it mildly. If you do get it, you would be beating tremendous odds. You would probably do well to have a plan B in place, possibly along the lines of what was suggested, or anything else that floats your boat.
To answer your question directly, from what I recall, it's quite normal to have a new application number assigned when you appeal a rejection. It means very little though other than you have a few more weeks or months to dream....
Thanks Sir - after 12 years and 5 attempts, I am neither delusional nor living in my own lala land dreaming about a positive outcome.. I fully agree on Plan B part as well - I know this is a public forum and apologies if I had sounded harsh.. what irked me was some of the Plan B suggestions provided here were based on wild assumptions and without understanding ground realities - would've appreciated empathy.. All good now.. Thanks again and wishing everyone the best. Have a good day.
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