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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by JoMan » Tue, 13 Jun 2023 3:54 pm

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Fri, 11 Nov 2022 11:54 am
Hi Everyone,
I have submitted my PR application for the 5th time and it is currently under processing.

Nationality: Indian
Age: 43
Race: Indian
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Applied for: Family - Wife and Daughter included
Education: BE (Computer Science Engineering), MBA (Systems & Marketing)
Wife's Education: Bachelor of Science, MBA
Length of stay in SG: 11.5 years
Pass type: PEP
Occupation: Delivery Lead in an European IT company
Salary: ~ S$260k; (5 job switches in 11.5 years; started at S$110K/year in SG) Spouse Salary: $40K
Work experience: 20 years (out of which 11.5 years based out of Singapore)
SG Tax Assessment: 12 years

I have 2 more years left in my PEP; I feel this is our best shot yet at getting the PR. Appreciate if any predictions/suggestions on our chances.. thanks..
My family's PR application was rejected - received rejection letter exactly 4 months after submitting it.. Since my PEP is expiring in Feb'24, I thought of appealing instead of waiting for 2 more years and reapplying.. I also had a 15% increase in my monthly salary and my wife's LOC was converted to WP.. I mentioned these points in the appeal letter (I am aware that all these happened after rejection) and also added some points on why I request for a reconsideration.. Sent the appeal letter through email - I received an acknowledgement letter and I can see a new PR application number opened with the status showing as pending for the last 1.5 months.. is this normal?

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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 13 Jun 2023 9:37 pm

JoMan wrote:
Tue, 13 Jun 2023 3:54 pm
JoMan wrote:
Fri, 11 Nov 2022 11:54 am
Hi Everyone,
I have submitted my PR application for the 5th time and it is currently under processing.

Nationality: Indian
Age: 43
Race: Indian
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Applied for: Family - Wife and Daughter included
Education: BE (Computer Science Engineering), MBA (Systems & Marketing)
Wife's Education: Bachelor of Science, MBA
Length of stay in SG: 11.5 years
Pass type: PEP
Occupation: Delivery Lead in an European IT company
Salary: ~ S$260k; (5 job switches in 11.5 years; started at S$110K/year in SG) Spouse Salary: $40K
Work experience: 20 years (out of which 11.5 years based out of Singapore)
SG Tax Assessment: 12 years

I have 2 more years left in my PEP; I feel this is our best shot yet at getting the PR. Appreciate if any predictions/suggestions on our chances.. thanks..
My family's PR application was rejected - received rejection letter exactly 4 months after submitting it.. Since my PEP is expiring in Feb'24, I thought of appealing instead of waiting for 2 more years and reapplying.. I also had a 15% increase in my monthly salary and my wife's LOC was converted to WP.. I mentioned these points in the appeal letter (I am aware that all these happened after rejection) and also added some points on why I request for a reconsideration.. Sent the appeal letter through email - I received an acknowledgement letter and I can see a new PR application number opened with the status showing as pending for the last 1.5 months.. is this normal?
This is normal, but likely outcome will be the same.

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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by AmbitionPS » Thu, 06 Jul 2023 1:48 am

PrashantSharma3 wrote:
Wed, 07 Jun 2023 8:29 pm
colecules wrote:
Wed, 07 Jun 2023 12:46 am
PrashantSharma3 wrote: There is no enquiry from ICA as such. However, some communication happened during last 15 months with ICA due to salary revision, promotion etc. Change notification. Such communication was initiated from my side not from ICA.
your proceed to upload button still there?


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Yes proceed to upload button still appearing as usual.
Proceed to upload button disappeared today. Lets see what will be the outcome. It is almost 16 months now since we applied for the PR.

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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by hopeislife » Thu, 06 Jul 2023 10:08 am

PrashantSharma3 wrote:
Thu, 06 Jul 2023 1:48 am
PrashantSharma3 wrote:
Wed, 07 Jun 2023 8:29 pm
colecules wrote:
Wed, 07 Jun 2023 12:46 am

your proceed to upload button still there?


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Yes proceed to upload button still appearing as usual.
Proceed to upload button disappeared today. Lets see what will be the outcome. It is almost 16 months now since we applied for the PR.
Well, i have a small intuition that your current application may be rejected and i do have some reasons. But, hey lets be optimistic and let me be proven wrong as your profile looks good too. Do let us know the outcome.

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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by reddotaspirant » Thu, 06 Jul 2023 11:00 am

hopeislife wrote:
Thu, 06 Jul 2023 10:08 am

Well, i have a small intuition that your current application may be rejected and i do have some reasons. But, hey lets be optimistic and let me be proven wrong as your profile looks good too. Do let us know the outcome.
Could you please enlighten us with your theory? Would be interesting I assume. And this will also prove how well (or rather less) do we understand about functioning of this whole system.

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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 06 Jul 2023 10:50 pm

Yesterday nohope was claiming there was little or no luck in ICAs decision making process, today it is saying the small intuition (luck?) that it may be rejected. With only 5 silly posts not really saying much of anything, it's professing a lot. He/she hasn't given us any background or history as to where their knowledge comes from. Nobody but the moderators have any idea who the person is other than they are posting from Government linked server & Sg ISP and what appears to be a throwaway Indian identity for their email.

My advice is if anybody get an DM/PM from this person once this person's DM function activates, I want to know about it and I think most here will understand why.
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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by AmbitionPS » Thu, 06 Jul 2023 11:54 pm

hopeislife wrote:
Thu, 06 Jul 2023 10:08 am
PrashantSharma3 wrote:
Thu, 06 Jul 2023 1:48 am
PrashantSharma3 wrote:
Wed, 07 Jun 2023 8:29 pm

Yes proceed to upload button still appearing as usual.
Proceed to upload button disappeared today. Lets see what will be the outcome. It is almost 16 months now since we applied for the PR.
Well, i have a small intuition that your current application may be rejected and i do have some reasons. But, hey lets be optimistic and let me be proven wrong as your profile looks good too. Do let us know the outcome.
Thanks for sharing your intuition and I appreciate if you can share some rationale or reasoning or logical thoughts behind having intuitions.
It would help me and many others in improving profile for next attempt.

To me personally, failure and success are part and parcel of life. However, one should try to improve always and give a try next time.

I am totally OK to receive a rejection. Ofcourse it hurts but thats a learning of life.
One must improve the profile and try again next time.
Life must go on.
Optimism is the key. If not this time then may be next time.
Cheers !

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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by AmbitionPS » Fri, 07 Jul 2023 12:00 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Thu, 06 Jul 2023 10:50 pm
Yesterday nohope was claiming there was little or no luck in ICAs decision making process, today it is saying the small intuition (luck?) that it may be rejected. With only 5 silly posts not really saying much of anything, it's professing a lot. He/she hasn't given us any background or history as to where their knowledge comes from. Nobody but the moderators have any idea who the person is other than they are posting from Government linked server & Sg ISP and what appears to be a throwaway Indian identity for their email.

My advice is if anybody get an DM/PM from this person once this person's DM function activates, I want to know about it and I think most here will understand why.
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Hello Mate,
I have been following you from quite sometime and honestly would like to thank you for your inputs to this community. Your feedbacks and comments are to point and crisp.
It would be a great help if you can share your feedback about my profile.
Basically, I would like to know which area should be improved further. Before next attempt, I will definitely work on it and give my best shot.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by hopeislife » Fri, 07 Jul 2023 10:57 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Thu, 06 Jul 2023 10:50 pm
Yesterday nohope was claiming there was little or no luck in ICAs decision making process, today it is saying the small intuition (luck?) that it may be rejected. With only 5 silly posts not really saying much of anything, it's professing a lot. He/she hasn't given us any background or history as to where their knowledge comes from. Nobody but the moderators have any idea who the person is other than they are posting from Government linked server & Sg ISP and what appears to be a throwaway Indian identity for their email.

My advice is if anybody get an DM/PM from this person once this person's DM function activates, I want to know about it and I think most here will understand why.
myspideysenseistingling.jpeg
Hi :D , you could have just asked me about myself. I am just an indian guy working in SG who is also applying for PR and also just learning about your inputs as well as other people. I may not be experienced like you so my posts might look silly in your view. I just post or view this site during tea breaks or lunch in a nearby mall. Your description makes me look like some guy who is hiding in sg :-o :) , but i am just an ordinary guy.

I understand what you mean in your last two lines :lol: I am not some agency person who is going to give DM/PM to anyone saying that i will help them with PR application, so dont worry. It is not my field of working.

ICA does not award PR based on luck as they almost know a complete picture of the applicant. Hence, i said ICA's decision may not involve luck. But my decision about some applicant is just intuitive, as we will never know the complete picture of the applicant aside from the outline of the profile that the applicant says here.

I said Prashant's profile may not be favoured based on the number of months his application was pending. I understand that the outcome of application has no relevance to the number of months pending. In my own theory inside my small silly head, i feel the applications are evaluated in several stages, where each stage has a pool of applicants meeting certain criteria. Each stage may occur at different months from the submission of application and it may vary based on applicants profile. One stage may take many number of months depending on other factors. I felt that this 16th month of pending may have some issues as month 4,6,9,12,16,21 likely has been a problem especially for Indians (based on my reading through most of the posts in this forum and also from expat. com).

Actually many things to explain, but i just said it shortly. I DO ACCEPT MY REASONING MAY LOOK SILLY OR NOT MEANINGFUL. But i just said it here as you asked. I also don't encourage anyone to believe what i say here is true, which is why i posted in this thread, to Prashant 'lets be optimistic', 'let me be proven wrong'.

If you think my posts or replies are not good or not fit for this forum, I give you my apologies and you can edit or remove my posts. If I am not allowed to give opinions you can just say so.

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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by hopeislife » Fri, 07 Jul 2023 11:10 am

PrashantSharma3 wrote:
Thu, 06 Jul 2023 11:54 pm
hopeislife wrote:
Thu, 06 Jul 2023 10:08 am
PrashantSharma3 wrote:
Thu, 06 Jul 2023 1:48 am


Proceed to upload button disappeared today. Lets see what will be the outcome. It is almost 16 months now since we applied for the PR.
Well, i have a small intuition that your current application may be rejected and i do have some reasons. But, hey lets be optimistic and let me be proven wrong as your profile looks good too. Do let us know the outcome.
Thanks for sharing your intuition and I appreciate if you can share some rationale or reasoning or logical thoughts behind having intuitions.
It would help me and many others in improving profile for next attempt.

To me personally, failure and success are part and parcel of life. However, one should try to improve always and give a try next time.

I am totally OK to receive a rejection. Ofcourse it hurts but thats a learning of life.
One must improve the profile and try again next time.
Life must go on.
Optimism is the key. If not this time then may be next time.
Cheers !
Hi Prashant, i have given the reason for why i said it may not be favourable in my reply to SMS (in this thread). As i have told already, your profile looks good but sometimes the stages of application is not in our control. I am not someone who is better than you or the moderators here (who have been in sg for decades) to predict ICA's decision. I just thought of giving some opinion as a passerby. We are all just sailing on the same boat for pr application.

May be i should not have said my opinion and i'm sorry if my words "your current application may be rejected" hurts you in anyway and it is not my intention to hurt you and my post was just to say about my guess. Forgive me, my friend. [-o< and hoping to hear good news from you.

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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by AmbitionPS » Fri, 07 Jul 2023 11:39 pm

hopeislife wrote:
Fri, 07 Jul 2023 11:10 am
PrashantSharma3 wrote:
Thu, 06 Jul 2023 11:54 pm
hopeislife wrote:
Thu, 06 Jul 2023 10:08 am


Well, i have a small intuition that your current application may be rejected and i do have some reasons. But, hey lets be optimistic and let me be proven wrong as your profile looks good too. Do let us know the outcome.
Thanks for sharing your intuition and I appreciate if you can share some rationale or reasoning or logical thoughts behind having intuitions.
It would help me and many others in improving profile for next attempt.

To me personally, failure and success are part and parcel of life. However, one should try to improve always and give a try next time.

I am totally OK to receive a rejection. Ofcourse it hurts but thats a learning of life.
One must improve the profile and try again next time.
Life must go on.
Optimism is the key. If not this time then may be next time.
Cheers !
Hi Prashant, i have given the reason for why i said it may not be favourable in my reply to SMS (in this thread). As i have told already, your profile looks good but sometimes the stages of application is not in our control. I am not someone who is better than you or the moderators here (who have been in sg for decades) to predict ICA's decision. I just thought of giving some opinion as a passerby. We are all just sailing on the same boat for pr application.

May be i should not have said my opinion and i'm sorry if my words "your current application may be rejected" hurts you in anyway and it is not my intention to hurt you and my post was just to say about my guess. Forgive me, my friend. [-o< and hoping to hear good news from you.
Good one man and I can see from where you coming from. Pattern wise, yes I have also seen similar stages in my circle for the families have successfully got PR in last couple of years.
And I am not hurt so chill as I am prepared for another rejection.
Lets try next time :)

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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by AmbitionPS » Fri, 07 Jul 2023 11:51 pm

hopeislife wrote:
Fri, 07 Jul 2023 10:57 am
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Thu, 06 Jul 2023 10:50 pm
Yesterday nohope was claiming there was little or no luck in ICAs decision making process, today it is saying the small intuition (luck?) that it may be rejected. With only 5 silly posts not really saying much of anything, it's professing a lot. He/she hasn't given us any background or history as to where their knowledge comes from. Nobody but the moderators have any idea who the person is other than they are posting from Government linked server & Sg ISP and what appears to be a throwaway Indian identity for their email.

My advice is if anybody get an DM/PM from this person once this person's DM function activates, I want to know about it and I think most here will understand why.
myspideysenseistingling.jpeg
Hi :D , you could have just asked me about myself. I am just an indian guy working in SG who is also applying for PR and also just learning about your inputs as well as other people. I may not be experienced like you so my posts might look silly in your view. I just post or view this site during tea breaks or lunch in a nearby mall. Your description makes me look like some guy who is hiding in sg :-o :) , but i am just an ordinary guy.

I understand what you mean in your last two lines :lol: I am not some agency person who is going to give DM/PM to anyone saying that i will help them with PR application, so dont worry. It is not my field of working.

ICA does not award PR based on luck as they almost know a complete picture of the applicant. Hence, i said ICA's decision may not involve luck. But my decision about some applicant is just intuitive, as we will never know the complete picture of the applicant aside from the outline of the profile that the applicant says here.

I said Prashant's profile may not be favoured based on the number of months his application was pending. I understand that the outcome of application has no relevance to the number of months pending. In my own theory inside my small silly head, i feel the applications are evaluated in several stages, where each stage has a pool of applicants meeting certain criteria. Each stage may occur at different months from the submission of application and it may vary based on applicants profile. One stage may take many number of months depending on other factors. I felt that this 16th month of pending may have some issues as month 4,6,9,12,16,21 likely has been a problem especially for Indians (based on my reading through most of the posts in this forum and also from expat. com).

Actually many things to explain, but i just said it shortly. I DO ACCEPT MY REASONING MAY LOOK SILLY OR NOT MEANINGFUL. But i just said it here as you asked. I also don't encourage anyone to believe what i say here is true, which is why i posted in this thread, to Prashant 'lets be optimistic', 'let me be proven wrong'.

If you think my posts or replies are not good or not fit for this forum, I give you my apologies and you can edit or remove my posts. If I am not allowed to give opinions you can just say so.
I have also seen similar pattern in my circle - 4,6,9,12,16,21. But again it is just a theory.

Another reason to have possible rejection for my case could be having no enquiry from ICA yet. But its Ok. Lets be optimistic for next time.

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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by singaporeflyer » Sat, 08 Jul 2023 6:53 pm

PrashantSharma3 wrote:
Fri, 07 Jul 2023 11:51 pm
hopeislife wrote:
Fri, 07 Jul 2023 10:57 am
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Thu, 06 Jul 2023 10:50 pm
Yesterday nohope was claiming there was little or no luck in ICAs decision making process, today it is saying the small intuition (luck?) that it may be rejected. With only 5 silly posts not really saying much of anything, it's professing a lot. He/she hasn't given us any background or history as to where their knowledge comes from. Nobody but the moderators have any idea who the person is other than they are posting from Government linked server & Sg ISP and what appears to be a throwaway Indian identity for their email.

My advice is if anybody get an DM/PM from this person once this person's DM function activates, I want to know about it and I think most here will understand why.
myspideysenseistingling.jpeg
Hi :D , you could have just asked me about myself. I am just an indian guy working in SG who is also applying for PR and also just learning about your inputs as well as other people. I may not be experienced like you so my posts might look silly in your view. I just post or view this site during tea breaks or lunch in a nearby mall. Your description makes me look like some guy who is hiding in sg :-o :) , but i am just an ordinary guy.

I understand what you mean in your last two lines :lol: I am not some agency person who is going to give DM/PM to anyone saying that i will help them with PR application, so dont worry. It is not my field of working.

ICA does not award PR based on luck as they almost know a complete picture of the applicant. Hence, i said ICA's decision may not involve luck. But my decision about some applicant is just intuitive, as we will never know the complete picture of the applicant aside from the outline of the profile that the applicant says here.

I said Prashant's profile may not be favoured based on the number of months his application was pending. I understand that the outcome of application has no relevance to the number of months pending. In my own theory inside my small silly head, i feel the applications are evaluated in several stages, where each stage has a pool of applicants meeting certain criteria. Each stage may occur at different months from the submission of application and it may vary based on applicants profile. One stage may take many number of months depending on other factors. I felt that this 16th month of pending may have some issues as month 4,6,9,12,16,21 likely has been a problem especially for Indians (based on my reading through most of the posts in this forum and also from expat. com).

Actually many things to explain, but i just said it shortly. I DO ACCEPT MY REASONING MAY LOOK SILLY OR NOT MEANINGFUL. But i just said it here as you asked. I also don't encourage anyone to believe what i say here is true, which is why i posted in this thread, to Prashant 'lets be optimistic', 'let me be proven wrong'.

If you think my posts or replies are not good or not fit for this forum, I give you my apologies and you can edit or remove my posts. If I am not allowed to give opinions you can just say so.
I have also seen similar pattern in my circle - 4,6,9,12,16,21. But again it is just a theory.

Another reason to have possible rejection for my case could be having no enquiry from ICA yet. But its Ok. Lets be optimistic for next time.
There are many applicants
1. who had inquiry from ICA and were later rejected also
2. No inquiry at all and approved

So, there is no clear pattern, etc.

So, please wait patiently and don't believe in patterns.

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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by AmbitionPS » Sun, 09 Jul 2023 1:36 am

singaporeflyer wrote:
Sat, 08 Jul 2023 6:53 pm
PrashantSharma3 wrote:
Fri, 07 Jul 2023 11:51 pm
hopeislife wrote:
Fri, 07 Jul 2023 10:57 am


Hi :D , you could have just asked me about myself. I am just an indian guy working in SG who is also applying for PR and also just learning about your inputs as well as other people. I may not be experienced like you so my posts might look silly in your view. I just post or view this site during tea breaks or lunch in a nearby mall. Your description makes me look like some guy who is hiding in sg :-o :) , but i am just an ordinary guy.

I understand what you mean in your last two lines :lol: I am not some agency person who is going to give DM/PM to anyone saying that i will help them with PR application, so dont worry. It is not my field of working.

ICA does not award PR based on luck as they almost know a complete picture of the applicant. Hence, i said ICA's decision may not involve luck. But my decision about some applicant is just intuitive, as we will never know the complete picture of the applicant aside from the outline of the profile that the applicant says here.

I said Prashant's profile may not be favoured based on the number of months his application was pending. I understand that the outcome of application has no relevance to the number of months pending. In my own theory inside my small silly head, i feel the applications are evaluated in several stages, where each stage has a pool of applicants meeting certain criteria. Each stage may occur at different months from the submission of application and it may vary based on applicants profile. One stage may take many number of months depending on other factors. I felt that this 16th month of pending may have some issues as month 4,6,9,12,16,21 likely has been a problem especially for Indians (based on my reading through most of the posts in this forum and also from expat. com).

Actually many things to explain, but i just said it shortly. I DO ACCEPT MY REASONING MAY LOOK SILLY OR NOT MEANINGFUL. But i just said it here as you asked. I also don't encourage anyone to believe what i say here is true, which is why i posted in this thread, to Prashant 'lets be optimistic', 'let me be proven wrong'.

If you think my posts or replies are not good or not fit for this forum, I give you my apologies and you can edit or remove my posts. If I am not allowed to give opinions you can just say so.
I have also seen similar pattern in my circle - 4,6,9,12,16,21. But again it is just a theory.

Another reason to have possible rejection for my case could be having no enquiry from ICA yet. But its Ok. Lets be optimistic for next time.
There are many applicants
1. who had inquiry from ICA and were later rejected also
2. No inquiry at all and approved

So, there is no clear pattern, etc.

So, please wait patiently and don't believe in patterns.
Thanks for your inputs. Lets wait :)
Will update here the outcome here.

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Re: PR approval chances 2022

Post by hopeislife » Tue, 11 Jul 2023 11:41 am

PrashantSharma3 wrote:
Sun, 09 Jul 2023 1:36 am
singaporeflyer wrote:
Sat, 08 Jul 2023 6:53 pm
PrashantSharma3 wrote:
Fri, 07 Jul 2023 11:51 pm


I have also seen similar pattern in my circle - 4,6,9,12,16,21. But again it is just a theory.

Another reason to have possible rejection for my case could be having no enquiry from ICA yet. But its Ok. Lets be optimistic for next time.
There are many applicants
1. who had inquiry from ICA and were later rejected also
2. No inquiry at all and approved

So, there is no clear pattern, etc.

So, please wait patiently and don't believe in patterns.
Thanks for your inputs. Lets wait :)
Will update here the outcome here.
Hi Prashant, would just like to know if you have done or doing donations or worked for any charity organization?

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