PR approval chances 2022

[Lisafuller]

I'm not doing a degree yet...actually I'm doing IGCSEs for a year then going on to do diploma but by that time, I will turn 21 and would have to return back already... So should I try appealing or wait and for 6 months ?

Six months is not enough of a gap, you'd be better off, waiting two years before reapplying.

[Lisafuller]

I read that appealing would need to be based on my circumstance at that point in time when I applied so even if my pay increases by 500 this year, it won’t be considered a change or even significant by that matter right? Does going to MP help? (Didn’t participate in volunteer sessions though)

I know this is hard to hear, but 500 is nothing. You would need a very significant set of changes for your application to be reconsidered so soon.

[korosensei]

I would like to share my profile which my PR application got rejected recently.

Application submitted on July 2022.
Nationality: Vietnamese
Race: Others obviously.
Age: 34 at that time.
Marital status: Married, wife stays home no working.
Kid: a 6 year old daughter going to local kindergarten at the time of application. Now she is going to a local primary school.
Salary: 150k
Job: Software engineer in a very well known local startup.
Experience: 11 years
Education: Master degree
Stay in Singapore: since 2016
Visa: always have been EP

Get the rejected result after sharp 6 months (Jan 2023 just now).

Total 3 attempts of PR application:
1/ Apr 2018, got rejected in Oct 2018
2/ Oct 2019, got rejected in Apr 2020
3/ Waited for 2 years and applied again July 2022, got rejected in Jan 2023.
Changes since the previous time:
- Changed job from an MNC to a very well known local startup
- Salary increased 40%
- Got a Master degree

The reason of rejection might be race quota obviously.

agree, most likely quota issue for race. maybe try also considering other countries like australia, new zealand and canada

How's the baby doing korosensei? Hope you're well.

shes growing too fast. now im doing night feedings. thanks God because she is healthy and growing to be talkative. she is very responsive when you talk to her

[Lisafuller]

agree, most likely quota issue for race. maybe try also considering other countries like australia, new zealand and canada

How's the baby doing korosensei? Hope you're well.

shes growing too fast. now im doing night feedings. thanks God because she is healthy and growing to be talkative. she is very responsive when you talk to her

Glad to hear that! How old is she now? Must be at least a month right?

[korosensei]

How's the baby doing korosensei? Hope you're well.

now she is 3 months and she babbles a lot when you talk to her


shes growing too fast. now im doing night feedings. thanks God because she is healthy and growing to be talkative. she is very responsive when you talk to her

Glad to hear that! How old is she now? Must be at least a month right?

[Lisafuller]

now she is 3 months and she babbles a lot when you talk to her


shes growing too fast. now im doing night feedings. thanks God because she is healthy and growing to be talkative. she is very responsive when you talk to her

Glad to hear that! How old is she now? Must be at least a month right?

Wow, then you should be coming off maternity leave soon. I remember when I finally returned to work, though I missed my girl a lot a part of me felt a little guilty for enjoying the peace and quiet away from home.

[sherlock101]

Hello,

My wife and I have been living in Singapore for 6 years, and have been thinking about applying for a PR. She is pregnant (very early stage).
Should we apply for a PR now, or wait until after the birth of the child? Would like some help to understand the pros and cons of both scenarios (apply now vs apply later).
Ethnicity - European
Both have jobs and are on EP here (Tech and consulting).
We did our undergrads in Europe.

Thanks!

[singaporeflyer]

Hello,

My wife and I have been living in Singapore for 6 years, and have been thinking about applying for a PR. She is pregnant (very early stage).
Should we apply for a PR now, or wait until after the birth of the child? Would like some help to understand the pros and cons of both scenarios (apply now vs apply later). Thanks!

Knowing nothing about both of your work, education, job, ethnicity - how do we advise ?

Apply later - you could include the kid in the application and need not go for a separate PR later for the kid.

[Lisafuller]

Hello,

My wife and I have been living in Singapore for 6 years, and have been thinking about applying for a PR. She is pregnant (very early stage).
Should we apply for a PR now, or wait until after the birth of the child? Would like some help to understand the pros and cons of both scenarios (apply now vs apply later). Thanks!

Locking so much information, what are your ethnicities? How long have you been married? What do you do for work?

[Lisafuller]

Hello,

My wife and I have been living in Singapore for 6 years, and have been thinking about applying for a PR. She is pregnant (very early stage).
Should we apply for a PR now, or wait until after the birth of the child? Would like some help to understand the pros and cons of both scenarios (apply now vs apply later). Thanks!

Knowing nothing about both of your work, education, job, ethnicity - how do we advise ?

Apply later - you could include the kid in the application and need not go for a separate PR later for the kid.

Agree, waiting a couple months may afford them a lot more in terms of chances with the simple addition of a kid.

[sherlock101]

Thanks all. I have added further relevant information above. Look forward to your suggestions.

[MOCHS]

Thanks all. I have added further relevant information above. Look forward to your suggestions.

“Tech and consulting” is so generic. You didn’t provide your annual income either. “European” is also vague as well. Western Europe? Eastern Europe? List out your nationality.

If you want us to help, then you need to lay out your cards on the table instead of withholding information.

[sherlock101]

Thanks all. I have added further relevant information above. Look forward to your suggestions.

“Tech and consulting” is so generic. You didn’t provide your annual income either. “European” is also vague as well. Western Europe? Eastern Europe? List out your nationality.

If you want us to help, then you need to lay out your cards on the table instead of withholding information.

Don’t think it makes a significant difference whether I am Irish or Austrian.
You are missing the point of my question. I am not asking about my chances of PR conversion on an absolute basis. I have read this forum enough to form an independent and informed opinion myself (overall my situation has a low chance of conversion).
I am asking about the pros and cons of the 2 scenarios on a comparative basis. For example, some questions:
1. Would applying now significantly weaken the application compared to applying with a kid (as having a kid may demonstrate willingness to “integrate” in Singapore)?
2. On the flip side, are there significant monetary benefits (from the government) of delivering a kid when the parents have a PR?
3. Is it more or less guaranteed that a kid born to PR parents will get a PR later?
4. Does having a male kid significantly increase chances than having a female kid?

[MOCHS]

Nationality does make a difference. You’ll be surprised. If one is Ukrainian or Russian, be prepared for rejection on first try. You seem to be very secretive about your nationality.

1. It saves on application fee if you apply once compared to applying twice. Having a kid shows some willingness of sinking roots here.

2. If your wife becomes PR, there might be some medical subsidies if she gives birth in government hospitals. However, it is highly unlikely that the PR application will be approved before your wife gives birth. So, back to point 1, just save your application fee money and apply for the whole family at one shot. Also, if your company is generous with medical insurance in the first place, the savings from subsidies won’t be that much…

3. Nothing is guaranteed.

4. Having a male child means a potential soldier to serve mandatory NS so it is looked upon favorably. Think twice if you want your future son serving because absconding without the proper paperwork will cause a lot of trouble for your offspring. Whether male or female baby, SG wants the population boosted either way.

[lsuiug]

I read that appealing would need to be based on my circumstance at that point in time when I applied so even if my pay increases by 500 this year, it won’t be considered a change or even significant by that matter right? Does going to MP help? (Didn’t participate in volunteer sessions though)

I know this is hard to hear, but 500 is nothing. You would need a very significant set of changes for your application to be reconsidered so soon.

Hi, is an increase in 1.5-2k actually significant? Also, I heard of 1-2 cases that an MP's letter actually helped but may be because of their circumstances (One was married to a Singaporean and is Malaysian Chinese and the other is also married to a Singaporean but is Thai). Both are recent, just a few years back. Should I still shoot my shot on the second application 6 months later?