Singapore Expats

Maintaining PR abroad; re apply for PR after REP rejected

Relocating, travelling or planning to make Singapore home? Discuss the criterias, passes or visa that is required.
Post Reply
Skidmarkz
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 15
Joined: Sun, 06 Mar 2022 7:24 am

Re: Maintaining PR abroad; re apply for PR after REP rejected

Post by Skidmarkz » Tue, 14 Feb 2023 1:41 pm

sxsw wrote:
Sat, 16 Apr 2022 1:05 pm
Thanks for the honest advice. We have renewed REP once before and never lived abroad while having the PR. It seems 2-3 years max away, and being gainfully employed 1+ year before REP renewal, is the best approach.
Just like my case.
I have been working for SG company and have been stationed overseas almost a year. I got 1yr renewal last year due to lack of CPF contribution from SG company and physical presence. But now the only factor iam worried only is physical presence while my Cpf from the company has been consistent for almost a year.
In middle of this 2023 my REP will expire and I will renew it, I hope can get 5yrs not 1yr again.

User avatar
singaporeflyer
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4324
Joined: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 9:49 am
Answers: 3

Re: Maintaining PR abroad; re apply for PR after REP rejected

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 14 Feb 2023 2:06 pm

Skidmarkz wrote:
Tue, 14 Feb 2023 1:41 pm
sxsw wrote:
Sat, 16 Apr 2022 1:05 pm
Thanks for the honest advice. We have renewed REP once before and never lived abroad while having the PR. It seems 2-3 years max away, and being gainfully employed 1+ year before REP renewal, is the best approach.
Just like my case.
I have been working for SG company and have been stationed overseas almost a year. I got 1yr renewal last year due to lack of CPF contribution from SG company and physical presence. But now the only factor iam worried only is physical presence while my Cpf from the company has been consistent for almost a year.
In middle of this 2023 my REP will expire and I will renew it, I hope can get 5yrs not 1yr again.
If you pay SG taxes and CPF and are posted overseas by your company in SG, you should be ok for renewal.

User avatar
malcontent
Manager
Manager
Posts: 2952
Joined: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:52 am
Answers: 9
Location: Pacific Rim

Re: Maintaining PR abroad; re apply for PR after REP rejected

Post by malcontent » Tue, 14 Feb 2023 8:10 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Tue, 14 Feb 2023 2:06 pm
If you pay SG taxes and CPF and are posted overseas by your company in SG, you should be ok for renewal.
Are you suggesting to pay SG taxes even if you are no longer a tax resident of Singapore?
It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows - Epictetus

User avatar
singaporeflyer
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4324
Joined: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 9:49 am
Answers: 3

Re: Maintaining PR abroad; re apply for PR after REP rejected

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 14 Feb 2023 8:44 pm

malcontent wrote:
Tue, 14 Feb 2023 8:10 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Tue, 14 Feb 2023 2:06 pm
If you pay SG taxes and CPF and are posted overseas by your company in SG, you should be ok for renewal.
Are you suggesting to pay SG taxes even if you are no longer a tax resident of Singapore?
I meant when I was posted overseas, my salary was still paid in SG and I paid CPF and my taxes in SG. Between, how can he only pay CPF alone in SG? earlier some were doing this. But not sure if this available now.

Skidmarkz
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 15
Joined: Sun, 06 Mar 2022 7:24 am

Re: Maintaining PR abroad; re apply for PR after REP rejected

Post by Skidmarkz » Tue, 14 Feb 2023 11:34 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Tue, 14 Feb 2023 2:06 pm
Skidmarkz wrote:
Tue, 14 Feb 2023 1:41 pm
sxsw wrote:
Sat, 16 Apr 2022 1:05 pm
Thanks for the honest advice. We have renewed REP once before and never lived abroad while having the PR. It seems 2-3 years max away, and being gainfully employed 1+ year before REP renewal, is the best approach.
Just like my case.
I have been working for SG company and have been stationed overseas almost a year. I got 1yr renewal last year due to lack of CPF contribution from SG company and physical presence. But now the only factor iam worried only is physical presence while my Cpf from the company has been consistent for almost a year.
In middle of this 2023 my REP will expire and I will renew it, I hope can get 5yrs not 1yr again.
If you pay SG taxes and CPF and are posted overseas by your company in SG, you should be ok for renewal.
Hi buddy were you that time stationed at overseas (lacking physical presence in Sg for the condition) while employed under Sg company and got it approved for 5yrs? Thx

User avatar
PNGMK
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 9245
Joined: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 9:06 pm
Answers: 11
Location: Sinkapore

Re: Maintaining PR abroad; re apply for PR after REP rejected

Post by PNGMK » Wed, 15 Feb 2023 10:33 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Tue, 14 Feb 2023 8:44 pm
malcontent wrote:
Tue, 14 Feb 2023 8:10 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Tue, 14 Feb 2023 2:06 pm
If you pay SG taxes and CPF and are posted overseas by your company in SG, you should be ok for renewal.
Are you suggesting to pay SG taxes even if you are no longer a tax resident of Singapore?
I meant when I was posted overseas, my salary was still paid in SG and I paid CPF and my taxes in SG. Between, how can he only pay CPF alone in SG? earlier some were doing this. But not sure if this available now.
Sure you can. It's called Voluntary Contributions to CPF ("VC").
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
Your rugrat needs a School? Avoid for profit schools
You need Tax advice? Ask a CPA
You ran away without doing NS? Shame on you!

User avatar
singaporeflyer
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4324
Joined: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 9:49 am
Answers: 3

Re: Maintaining PR abroad; re apply for PR after REP rejected

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 16 Feb 2023 9:36 am

PNGMK wrote:
Wed, 15 Feb 2023 10:33 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Tue, 14 Feb 2023 8:44 pm
malcontent wrote:
Tue, 14 Feb 2023 8:10 pm


Are you suggesting to pay SG taxes even if you are no longer a tax resident of Singapore?
I meant when I was posted overseas, my salary was still paid in SG and I paid CPF and my taxes in SG. Between, how can he only pay CPF alone in SG? earlier some were doing this. But not sure if this available now.
Sure you can. It's called Voluntary Contributions to CPF ("VC").
Yes, but I understand that this is only the employee part and will reflect like a topup rather than an employer contribution which will have the company name.

User avatar
sundaymorningstaple
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 40532
Joined: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 1:26 pm
Answers: 21
Location: Retired on the Little Red Dot

Re: Maintaining PR abroad; re apply for PR after REP rejected

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 16 Feb 2023 9:33 pm

VC does not show employment by a Singapore Company which is the requirement ICA will be looking for.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

Skidmarkz
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 15
Joined: Sun, 06 Mar 2022 7:24 am

Re: Maintaining PR abroad; re apply for PR after REP rejected

Post by Skidmarkz » Fri, 17 Feb 2023 1:43 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Thu, 16 Feb 2023 9:33 pm
VC does not show employment by a Singapore Company which is the requirement ICA will be looking for.
During extension of REP , ICA would ask 2 questions
1. Do you reside in Spore?
2. Do you work for Sg company?

The second questions is very important one

truthhurts1
Chatter
Chatter
Posts: 175
Joined: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 10:06 am

Re: Maintaining PR abroad; re apply for PR after REP rejected

Post by truthhurts1 » Fri, 17 Feb 2023 7:13 am

So singapore likes to give PR to people who stay overseas for years while not giving PR to people who live here and pay Taxes for 10 years +
The systemic racism and bias is too much sometimes, but there is not much can do for people who are born in third world s-hole countries like me

User avatar
malcontent
Manager
Manager
Posts: 2952
Joined: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:52 am
Answers: 9
Location: Pacific Rim

Re: Maintaining PR abroad; re apply for PR after REP rejected

Post by malcontent » Fri, 17 Feb 2023 8:42 am

truthhurts1 wrote:
Fri, 17 Feb 2023 7:13 am
So singapore likes to give PR to people who stay overseas for years while not giving PR to people who live here and pay Taxes for 10 years +
The systemic racism and bias is too much sometimes, but there is not much can do for people who are born in third world s-hole countries like me
Do you fault Singapore for maintaining the status quo on the racial makeup here?

Do you fault Singapore for giving preference to those who have a closer cultural affinity?

Do you fault Singapore for retaining PR for those who have good evidence they will return?

While I can understand the frustration, the scarcity here is real. This is not the land of plenty. Tough decisions have to be made when demand > supply. And this is exactly why I tell my Indian friends who have been on EP for years and years, unable to get PR… look for greener pastures.
It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows - Epictetus

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “PR, Citizenship, Passes & Visas for Foreigners”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 12 guests