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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by PNGMK » Sun, 27 Mar 2022 4:50 pm

The Saudi attacks are result of their general arseholery and wahhabism - that's a cult that needs to disappear from this world for sure. Of course the Houthi's are going to attack now as Saudi will feel pain at these high prices if they can't sell.

As for friends in Russia - they are now starting to mourn the loss of friends and loved ones due to the "Event in U" (they don't dare type out "war in Ukraine' even on Signal or Telegram) and they're also really struggling with money - they simply can't believe they've lost their connections to the world. One friend in particular has lose thousands of dollars on flights and accommodation she had booked and it can't be refunded as it's not legal to send money to Russia. I am trying to send urgent medication to a friend there for her mother but that doesn't seem possible either.

On the other hand a missionary friend in Ukraine is still with her group 45 charges trying to keep them safe and fed as they move around the countryside trying to avoid being shelled. Who is the better one? Neither -they are both victims of a madman with his insane sycophants.

IF you really want to see how bad it is join some telegram chats. Pure uncensored horror. The Russians are losing - without a doubt - hundreds of soldiers a day along with materiel and most of them in very unpleasant ways. The Ukrainians are astonishingly effective at repurposing almost anything they can get into a weapon or delivery system and their morale is amazingly high. The Ukrainians are now, unfortunately, starting to treat POW's poorly (shooting them in the leg if they are otherwise unwounded for example, presumably so stop them having any chance of rejoining the fight) but the Russians are leaving their dead to be eaten by dogs and who knows how badly they treat Ukrainian POW's.

My Grandfather is buried in the Ukraine. He was a conscript who died there fighting the USSR. It's surreal that 110 years since his birth this is happening again.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by smoulder » Sun, 27 Mar 2022 5:04 pm

I was reading that Russia is not taking their dead soldiers. It would ruin their propaganda back home because that way, Putins lies about winning the war would be exposed. So Russian families are being deprived of knowing what happened to their loved ones and are not getting a chance to bury them with dignity.

I'm actually surprised at how badly prepared the Russians appear to be and how well prepared the Ukrainians have been.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by SGBoyxxx » Sun, 27 Mar 2022 5:13 pm

One thing, I have a strong feeling Xi of China during his term will get back taiwan.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by PNGMK » Sun, 27 Mar 2022 5:21 pm

SGBoyxxx wrote:
Sun, 27 Mar 2022 5:13 pm
One thing, I have a strong feeling Xi of China during his term will get back taiwan.
I think his chances of that are very small. He's looking at Ukraine with 44 MM people fighting off Russia and the HUGE impact of the Western sanctions and has probably realized that the same fate awaits him if he trys to take Taiwan with 23MM and the USA explicity supporting TW. Sanctions such as imposed on Russia would destroy China and any legitimacy of Xi's govt.

Personally I await the day for the ROC to reoccupy the PRC and take their place as the rightful govt of China. The CCCP has always been an illegitimate govt operating under the guise of acceptance thanks to people like Nixoon. It is, without a doubt, an illegitimate, corrupt, irresponsible govt that needs to disappear.

This is what is coming if these idiot dictators don't back off:
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by smoulder » Sun, 27 Mar 2022 5:22 pm

SGBoyxxx wrote:
Sun, 27 Mar 2022 5:13 pm
One thing, I have a strong feeling Xi of China during his term will get back taiwan.
Or do you hope for that? China seems to have done things in a more sneaky way unlike what we are seeing with Putin doing it in a brazen way. So I doubt it. The only possibility is if the Taiwanese want it themselves. There is a faction that is pro unification.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by SGBoyxxx » Sun, 27 Mar 2022 5:53 pm

Well I not sure, just feel Xi " might " partly perhaps he wanna make himself to be remember just like Chairman Mao.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by smoulder » Sun, 27 Mar 2022 5:57 pm

Sure. It's possible that he wants to do something. Maybe you are right that he might try some misadventure. Will he be successful? Maybe not.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by Lisafuller » Sun, 27 Mar 2022 8:14 pm

SGBoyxxx wrote:
Sun, 27 Mar 2022 5:13 pm
One thing, I have a strong feeling Xi of China during his term will get back taiwan.
Not sure if he will but he sure as hell will try.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by malcontent » Mon, 28 Mar 2022 1:09 am

It would have been a lot easier to coax Taiwan had they treated HK better. Instead they keep tightening their grip, and when they face protests about it — they say: ah, see how they protest, this is why we need to tighten our grip. It’s a classic abusive relationship! Why would Taiwan want to suffer such abuse?
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by Myasis Dragon » Mon, 28 Mar 2022 1:16 am

Damn right, and exactly spot on. Ruthless and brutal thugs run China, and being ruthless and brutal is the only way to rise to the top in the Chinese Communist party.
PNGMK wrote:
Sun, 27 Mar 2022 5:21 pm
SGBoyxxx wrote:
Sun, 27 Mar 2022 5:13 pm
One thing, I have a strong feeling Xi of China during his term will get back taiwan.
I think his chances of that are very small. He's looking at Ukraine with 44 MM people fighting off Russia and the HUGE impact of the Western sanctions and has probably realized that the same fate awaits him if he trys to take Taiwan with 23MM and the USA explicity supporting TW. Sanctions such as imposed on Russia would destroy China and any legitimacy of Xi's govt.

Personally I await the day for the ROC to reoccupy the PRC and take their place as the rightful govt of China. The CCCP has always been an illegitimate govt operating under the guise of acceptance thanks to people like Nixoon. It is, without a doubt, an illegitimate, corrupt, irresponsible govt that needs to disappear.

This is what is coming if these idiot dictators don't back off:
newmap.jpg

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by x9200 » Mon, 28 Mar 2022 9:39 am

PNGMK wrote:
Sun, 27 Mar 2022 4:50 pm
The Ukrainians are now, unfortunately, starting to treat POW's poorly (shooting them in the leg if they are otherwise unwounded for example, presumably so stop them having any chance of rejoining the fight)
The morale of the Russian troops is very low. If they are shot I would expect they shot themselves to avoid redeployment. Besides, who is shooting in the legs are Russian solders at the civilians protesting against Russian occupation. No solder is going to admit he shot himself so this could be also a part of Russian propaganda based on such stories.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by PNGMK » Mon, 28 Mar 2022 1:44 pm

x9200 wrote:
Mon, 28 Mar 2022 9:39 am
PNGMK wrote:
Sun, 27 Mar 2022 4:50 pm
The Ukrainians are now, unfortunately, starting to treat POW's poorly (shooting them in the leg if they are otherwise unwounded for example, presumably so stop them having any chance of rejoining the fight)
The morale of the Russian troops is very low. If they are shot I would expect they shot themselves to avoid redeployment. Besides, who is shooting in the legs are Russian solders at the civilians protesting against Russian occupation. No solder is going to admit he shot himself so this could be also a part of Russian propaganda based on such stories.
note - NSFW links - graphic violence in all of these subreddits.

https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVide ... allegedly/

https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVide ... g_russian/
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by x9200 » Mon, 28 Mar 2022 2:24 pm

PNGMK wrote:
Mon, 28 Mar 2022 1:44 pm
x9200 wrote:
Mon, 28 Mar 2022 9:39 am
PNGMK wrote:
Sun, 27 Mar 2022 4:50 pm
The Ukrainians are now, unfortunately, starting to treat POW's poorly (shooting them in the leg if they are otherwise unwounded for example, presumably so stop them having any chance of rejoining the fight)
The morale of the Russian troops is very low. If they are shot I would expect they shot themselves to avoid redeployment. Besides, who is shooting in the legs are Russian solders at the civilians protesting against Russian occupation. No solder is going to admit he shot himself so this could be also a part of Russian propaganda based on such stories.
note - NSFW links - graphic violence in all of these subreddits.

https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVide ... allegedly/

https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVide ... g_russian/
Hope these are not regular Ukrainian forces. Unfortunately there are always some sick people.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by smoulder » Mon, 28 Mar 2022 2:34 pm

A large number of the Ukrainians are probably conscripts. But the comments had some good viewpoints. That wars are not one sided. They are ugly and give sick people on all sides opportunities to commit crimes that some of us can't even imagine. Add to that, a feeling of vengeance that some of these Ukrainians might have felt after watching their country, their families and friends getting torn apart. That's what will happen eventually.

The trick is that people shouldn't go around being assholes in the first place by invading other people's territory.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine- thoughts?

Post by Addadude » Mon, 28 Mar 2022 2:47 pm

There was a pretty interesting 1998 movie, The Siege starring Denzel Washington and Bruce Willis, in which a series of terrorist atrocities in Brooklyn leads to a declaration of martial law. Throughout the lead up to the declaration, the army general played by Willis is warning against doing so. When martial law is declared he goes to task and the resulting consequences are pretty dark and unpleasant. I think it's fair to say that hen it comes to wat and violence, there are no true victors. The 'winners' are the ones who lose last.
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