Have a look at the US-Japan Security Treaty - Article 5 commits the United States to defend Japan if it is attacked by a third party. If such an article existed for Taiwan, it would leave no doubt, and could certainly avert a war.Lisafuller wrote: ↑Mon, 28 Feb 2022 1:35 amUpdate it how?malcontent wrote: ↑Sun, 27 Feb 2022 9:46 pmAnd if someone in Washington was paying attention, they would update the Taiwan Relations Act immediately.
Strength deters bad guys. Weakness begets war. ~ Mike Pompeo
The parallels lie in both having a power hungry, egoistic superpower exerting their control on a state that wishes to have nothing to do with them.x9200 wrote: ↑Mon, 28 Feb 2022 7:25 amNot sure. I don't know enough about people of TW and the political situation around to compare and speculate but Russia not only officially recognized Ukraine as an independent state but also was a signing party for 1994 Budapest Memorandum to assure security of Ukraine after Ukraine become a non-nuclear weapon state. I don't see here any clear parallel to TW.Lisafuller wrote: ↑Mon, 28 Feb 2022 1:13 amI think China is quietly watching things unfold so they can do the same thing to TW in time to come.x9200 wrote: ↑Sun, 27 Feb 2022 12:49 pm
Putin was and is a thug what was clear for long time already. Unfortunately some countries, especially Germany helped him to grow in power and make Europe dependent on Russian gas supply. That's what is the core of the problem with the SWIFT ban. It took a lot of diplomatic effort to convince German gov. to speak in one voice with the rest of EU community for the sanctions to be implemented and military equipment support provided to Ukraine.
So I would not be that concerned about the attitude of China. China actually played surprisingly "fair" abstaining (alongside with India and UAE) the recent UN Security Council Resolution condemning Russia. Over last few centuries of European history Germany and Russia brought war and destruction to many European countries acting too often together. This is what worries me most as it appears some things never change.
And the response of China is not supportive to Russia at all. Yes, they didn't ban import/export to Russia and didn't join the variety of sanctions other countries are implementing, but they also didn't vote against condemning Russia in the UN SC resolution. More over, Chinese banks normally follow bans imposed and this what already happens:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ommodities
For China, in respect of TW situation, what happens in Ukraine and around the crisis could be actually deterrent as any subject considering military annexation would probably make the international community reacting stronger than before.
You would have thought they’d learned something from WWII, but unfortunately no.x9200 wrote: ↑Mon, 28 Feb 2022 7:44 amOnly this time it is in the heart of Europe and already woke the old cold war and WW2 demons. It is not something that happens on some remote continent to people you have never heard about. Not for Europeans and Western community. Nothing like this (a country invading unprovoked an independent state) happened in Europe since WW2.smoulder wrote: ↑Mon, 28 Feb 2022 1:35 amDon't get me wrong here. I am not for war. It doesn't matter who's on the receiving end - people who have elected governments or people who don't. I'm merely pointing out that military powers on "both sides" routinely do these kinds of shenanigans and get away with it. Not the first time it has happened and not the first time it will happen.Lisafuller wrote: ↑Mon, 28 Feb 2022 1:08 am
Really? I would think that most would be on the Ukrainian’s side. Especially because the plight of Ukraine is something that resonates with most Singaporeans… right to self-determination and whatnot.
A couple other countries have expressed support for Russia, eg Syria, but they all have one thing in common- they’re all backwards pseudo democracies.ProvenPracticalFlexible wrote: ↑Mon, 28 Feb 2022 7:17 pmNo question about whose fault this war is.
It seems only the other even worse dictator from Belarus who doesn't respect any international laws is openly supporting Russia.
The good thing so far has been that the human rights and democracy respecting countries have pretty much all given they financial and equipment support in short notice. We can only hope that russians in masses go to streets and kick their dictator out of Kreml.
And everyone knows this, even Putin. But that doesn’t stop him.bro75 wrote: ↑Mon, 28 Feb 2022 1:57 pmThe war is Putin's fault. The fact that many of the former Soviet states are more aligned to the West is due to the fact that their experience under the Soviet Union was not a happy one. The former Soviet states still aligned with Russia are those with autocratic leaders.
Yeah, but that applies to any area of their interests equally.Lisafuller wrote: ↑Mon, 28 Feb 2022 9:44 pmThe parallels lie in both having a power hungry, egoistic superpower exerting their control on a state that wishes to have nothing to do with them.x9200 wrote: ↑Mon, 28 Feb 2022 7:25 amNot sure. I don't know enough about people of TW and the political situation around to compare and speculate but Russia not only officially recognized Ukraine as an independent state but also was a signing party for 1994 Budapest Memorandum to assure security of Ukraine after Ukraine become a non-nuclear weapon state. I don't see here any clear parallel to TW.Lisafuller wrote: ↑Mon, 28 Feb 2022 1:13 am
I think China is quietly watching things unfold so they can do the same thing to TW in time to come.
And the response of China is not supportive to Russia at all. Yes, they didn't ban import/export to Russia and didn't join the variety of sanctions other countries are implementing, but they also didn't vote against condemning Russia in the UN SC resolution. More over, Chinese banks normally follow bans imposed and this what already happens:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ommodities
For China, in respect of TW situation, what happens in Ukraine and around the crisis could be actually deterrent as any subject considering military annexation would probably make the international community reacting stronger than before.
I don’t doubt the severity of the situation, my daughter has sent me quite a few tiktok videos taken by people on the ground in both Russia and Ukraine, things look pretty serious.smoulder wrote: ↑Thu, 03 Mar 2022 4:45 pm"Russia says its economy is taking 'serious blows' as isolation grows"
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/business ... index.html
I'm wondering if the effects are as bad as CNN is reporting, which is contrary to some opinions here, and if it is, then would it make much difference to the situation if China tries throw Russia a lifeline?
It's very serious not only because of the sanctions but also from managing the export/import risks perspective. Logistically and financially. Demand for Russian oil is low even at the discounted price because there is increased risk with the payments and transportation. Chinese may try to help some way but even they are affected - for example, the "new silk road" train passage to Europe is heavily affected as insurers are hesitant to insure the goods to be transported.smoulder wrote: ↑Thu, 03 Mar 2022 4:45 pm"Russia says its economy is taking 'serious blows' as isolation grows"
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/business ... index.html
I'm wondering if the effects are as bad as CNN is reporting, which is contrary to some opinions here, and if it is, then would it make much difference to the situation if China tries throw Russia a lifeline?
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