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French EP + PRC Fiance - Long Term Options

Post by Hatem » Fri, 28 Jan 2022 5:24 pm

Good Afternoon to everyone.
I was years away from this forum - I am glad to be back even though I was not particularly active in earlier times.

I am not sure a big intro is needed considering the topic.
However in the last 6 years I have been in Singapore about 4 and an half - changing 3 company.
(I changed job 5 days ago).
1 year and a half approximately was spent in Mainland China and Hong Kong: once with an intra-company transfer, and then for a new employer in order to follow an amazing project.
I always came back to Singapore tho, and effectively this is my 3rd EP.

My profile now: 32 years old.
I work in IT.
My basic salary is around 190.000-200.000SGD.
I have a bachelor degree, a french passport and effectively I have paid several time taxes in the last 6 years as can be imagined.

In the last 3 years and half/four years, I started dating a Chinese girl living in Shenzhen.
She is 29 years old, has her own company and university education.

As you can imagine, with covid is becoming very difficult to meet up.
The Hong Kong/Mainland border was closed, so essentially it's been a while we do not meet up.
Now I moved back to Singapore and she can technically enter the Island without any issue, but going back to China will be painful due to the lengthy quarantine.

Initially we thought she could come with a student visa.
She wanted to improve her English quite a bit, and we thought a Student Visa in a good english school (like british council) could be a great opportunity.
She gets to stay here 6-8 months, improve her English, and we get to stay together.

It seems, however, this will take quite a lot of time and because she is over 19 it will also require for her to go to an interview in Beijing and as you all know it is a bit complicated to move around China at the moment due to the Olympics and Omicron fear.

So we are thinking that since we know each other for so long, we could probably speed up our marriage intention (which anyway would have been just less than a half a year away).
My understanding is that I am allowed to bring her in Singapore with a visitor visa, and register our marriage intention at ROM (neither me or her have ever been married before), marry her and then have my company apply for the Dependent Pass.

Is it right?

Anything that I am missing?
We have decided for marrying in Singapore because this is where we would like to live after the marriage (also because of my job) and so no point to fly to Europe to do this.
If I wanted I could marry at my Embassy but no need if ROM is enough for the DP - I can register her in the summer once I go back for holidays.

Thanks a lot guys!

Few things I forgot:
we have met so many times, we have proof of relationship (chat, witnesses, pictures) she came over to Singapore to visit me when I was still there (so she was given a visit pass), I went to China multiple times (with transit visa, business visa and tourist visa), she came over to Hong Kong multiple times, etc...

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Re: French EP + PRC Fiance - Long Term Options

Post by PNGMK » Fri, 28 Jan 2022 9:13 pm

Yes. You're too late in one respect. The perod you need to wait before marrying (after registering at ROM) is now 31 days as of about 2 weeks ago due to a change in the Women's charter This is deliberate to stop people coming in on a STVP and marrying in the time they are given (i.e. they don't want Singapore becoming a marriage hub - never mind every other fricking source of tourist income has been killed).

There is no need for an ROM marriage if your embassy can do it (in the short time she is here), my first marriage was at the Australian High Commission and it was perfectly valid.
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
Your rugrat needs a School? Avoid for profit schools
You need Tax advice? Ask a CPA
You ran away without doing NS? Shame on you!

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Re: French EP + PRC Fiance - Long Term Options

Post by Hatem » Sat, 29 Jan 2022 10:11 am

Hi and thank you!
I am aware of the changes you are mentioning in your post, but my understanding is that as long as one party is a resident (even with an EP like mine), it is enough that one party can be in Singapore for longer than 31 days to be allowed to marry.
(https://mothership.sg/2022/01/womens-charter-amendment/)

Otherwise, as you suggested, yes - my embassy is also an option.

All goes bad - We can do it in Europe or somewhere else in the summer, but we would like to avoid waiting other 6-7 months :)

Thanks a lot once again!

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