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Police raids handphone shops

Post by abbby » Mon, 17 Jan 2022 2:38 pm

This is a good start to find the root of the problem for scams...mobile numbers of scammers and shops who sell the SIM cards to them... :-" :-"

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapo ... am-2439256
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Post by PNGMK » Mon, 17 Jan 2022 2:43 pm

Also need to do block SenderID or require registration as this blogger / researcher points out.

https://captain-sinkie.com/articles/202 ... ngaporeans

"Edit: upon doing more research on this, I realise that there are countries which require registration before you are allowed to use a custom senderId. So Singapore could do this, for example if our law makers pass a law to enforce telcos to do so."
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Post by abbby » Mon, 17 Jan 2022 2:54 pm

PNGMK wrote:
Mon, 17 Jan 2022 2:43 pm
Also need to do block SenderID or require registration as this blogger / researcher points out.

https://captain-sinkie.com/articles/202 ... ngaporeans

"Edit: upon doing more research on this, I realise that there are countries which require registration before you are allowed to use a custom senderId. So Singapore could do this, for example if our law makers pass a law to enforce telcos to do so."
Yes something needs to be done on this...
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Post by PNGMK » Tue, 18 Jan 2022 9:08 am

To be clear while I am pleased OCBC are paying out to those scammed I do feel the gahmen here is really letting the side down on cyber security.

The SenderID issue (which is how these people were tricked) is a govt regulation issue. The theft of NRIC data from MyRepublic needs the govt to step in with a bloody big fine and shape up MyRepublic. First class country my ass.
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Post by abbby » Tue, 18 Jan 2022 1:10 pm

PNGMK wrote:
Tue, 18 Jan 2022 9:08 am
To be clear while I am pleased OCBC are paying out to those scammed I do feel the gahmen here is really letting the side down on cyber security.

The SenderID issue (which is how these people were tricked) is a govt regulation issue. The theft of NRIC data from MyRepublic needs the govt to step in with a bloody big fine and shape up MyRepublic. First class country my ass.
I am pleased with the OCBC outcome too..their system itself has some problem which needs a lot of tightening.
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Post by PNGMK » Tue, 18 Jan 2022 1:21 pm

Well - not just OCBD but the regulators as well. For a country that likes to micromanage it's systems there are some glaringly large holes in their systems.
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Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 21 Jan 2022 1:22 am

abbby wrote:
Tue, 18 Jan 2022 1:10 pm
PNGMK wrote:
Tue, 18 Jan 2022 9:08 am
To be clear while I am pleased OCBC are paying out to those scammed I do feel the gahmen here is really letting the side down on cyber security.

The SenderID issue (which is how these people were tricked) is a govt regulation issue. The theft of NRIC data from MyRepublic needs the govt to step in with a bloody big fine and shape up MyRepublic. First class country my ass.
I am pleased with the OCBC outcome too..their system itself has some problem which needs a lot of tightening.
Same here, repaying those who were scammed is a great gesture, although could have been avoided entirely had they been more cautious.

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Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 21 Jan 2022 1:23 am

PNGMK wrote:
Tue, 18 Jan 2022 9:08 am
To be clear while I am pleased OCBC are paying out to those scammed I do feel the gahmen here is really letting the side down on cyber security.

The SenderID issue (which is how these people were tricked) is a govt regulation issue. The theft of NRIC data from MyRepublic needs the govt to step in with a bloody big fine and shape up MyRepublic. First class country my ass.
Are you saying the scammers obtained the contacts of the victims through data leaks? I had assumed it was some sort of hack on OCBC itself, although I’m not too savvy so I could be way off.

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Re: Police raids handphone shops

Post by PNGMK » Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:36 am

I think there have been far too many data leaks here (and some really bad ones) and the gahmen has NOT slapped the source of the leaks (poorly secured data held by telcos etc) hard enough.
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Post by abbby » Fri, 21 Jan 2022 3:49 pm

Apparently the people let the guard down because the sender id came directly as legit OCBC..can't blame them especially sometimes you are busy/inattentive and to overlook the tiniest details. At least they have a happy ending receiving the goodwill payouts. Phew..
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Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 21 Jan 2022 11:32 pm

PNGMK wrote:
Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:36 am
I think there have been far too many data leaks here (and some really bad ones) and the gahmen has NOT slapped the source of the leaks (poorly secured data held by telcos etc) hard enough.
I remember just some time ago there was a huge Singpass data leak… can’t imagine how they haven’t learned their lesson.

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Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 21 Jan 2022 11:37 pm

abbby wrote:
Fri, 21 Jan 2022 3:49 pm
Apparently the people let the guard down because the sender id came directly as legit OCBC..can't blame them especially sometimes you are busy/inattentive and to overlook the tiniest details. At least they have a happy ending receiving the goodwill payouts. Phew..
The scammers are getting smarter and smarter nowadays, if countermeasures are not taken to prevent incidents like this from happening, it can be so easy to get scammed. Wish more was done to educate the public and to strengthen cyber security systems so we wouldn’t have to learn the hard way.

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