Isn’t it easy to get EP now?

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Isn’t it easy to get EP now?

Post by NP999 » Sun, 09 Jan 2022 10:09 pm

Hello all,
I used to hold EP from another company but it was cancelled during covid. I am currently working remotely for a SG company through an agency (common practice in SG). Now I would like to ask my agency to apply EP for me to go back to SG but they told me it is not possible to apply EP for now. Does government apply new rule or becoz they set the quota for EP?
Really appreciate your sharing.

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Re: Isn’t it easy to get EP now?

Post by PNGMK » Mon, 10 Jan 2022 9:21 am

Nope. This gahmen gone parochial as they are scare of losing next election.
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
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Re: Isn’t it easy to get EP now?

Post by NP999 » Mon, 10 Jan 2022 10:50 am

Seems my agency does not want to apply EP. can I ask them to do so now? Thanks

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Re: Isn’t it easy to get EP now?

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 10 Jan 2022 5:30 pm

NP999 wrote:
Mon, 10 Jan 2022 10:50 am
Seems my agency does not want to apply EP. can I ask them to do so now? Thanks
Why would you want to work for a company that doesn't even want you? :-k
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: Isn’t it easy to get EP now?

Post by smoulder » Mon, 10 Jan 2022 6:53 pm

Are you getting paid in SGD in Singapore? Is this income taxable in Singapore? I'm wondering just which part of the arrangement isn't bending rules.

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Re: Isn’t it easy to get EP now?

Post by Myasis Dragon » Mon, 10 Jan 2022 11:07 pm

smoulder wrote:
Mon, 10 Jan 2022 6:53 pm
Are you getting paid in SGD in Singapore?
It doesn't matter. Where one is getting paid and the currency in which one is paid are both irrelevant to the tax situation.
Is this income taxable in Singapore? I'm wondering just which part of the arrangement isn't bending rules.

While there is incomplete information here, almost certainly the person is working as an independent contractor. "Working remotely" indicates he/she is in her/his home country performing the work. Therefore, this person would be considered an independent contractor/self employed in her/his home country and income tax would be due there.

Example: Dell Singapore hires me. They get me an EP. They pay me into my US bank account in the USA in USA dollars. I live in Singapore. I am tax resident in Singapore. I pay Singapore income tax.

Example 2: Dell figures I am working remotely from home in Singapore anyway, so they decide to cancel my EP, send me back to the USA and I work remotely for Dell in Singapore as an independent contractor. I now pay my taxes in the USA as a self employed person.

Example 3: Dell figures I am working remotely from home in Singapore anyway, so they decide to cancel my EP, send me back to the USA , only this time, Dell USA hires me onto their payroll. Now, I am a US Dell employee, and I pay tax as a working stiff in the USA.

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Re: Isn’t it easy to get EP now?

Post by PNGMK » Tue, 11 Jan 2022 8:57 am

You're fixated on Dell MD.... :)
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
Your rugrat needs a School? Avoid for profit schools
You need Tax advice? Ask a CPA
You ran away without doing NS? Shame on you!

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Re: Isn’t it easy to get EP now?

Post by Myasis Dragon » Tue, 11 Jan 2022 1:31 pm

PNGMK wrote:
Tue, 11 Jan 2022 8:57 am
You're fixated on Dell MD.... :)
Only because Round Rock likes to count the paperclips used in APAC.

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Re: Isn’t it easy to get EP now?

Post by NP999 » Mon, 17 Jan 2022 10:08 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Mon, 10 Jan 2022 5:30 pm
NP999 wrote:
Mon, 10 Jan 2022 10:50 am
Seems my agency does not want to apply EP. can I ask them to do so now? Thanks
Why would you want to work for a company that doesn't even want you? :-k
Lol. As long as they pay me so I don’t mind to work for them. The issue is they are not able to get EP so I have to work remotely.

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Re: Isn’t it easy to get EP now?

Post by NP999 » Mon, 17 Jan 2022 10:13 am

Myasis Dragon wrote:
Mon, 10 Jan 2022 11:07 pm
smoulder wrote:
Mon, 10 Jan 2022 6:53 pm
Are you getting paid in SGD in Singapore?
It doesn't matter. Where one is getting paid and the currency in which one is paid are both irrelevant to the tax situation.
Is this income taxable in Singapore? I'm wondering just which part of the arrangement isn't bending rules.

While there is incomplete information here, almost certainly the person is working as an independent contractor. "Working remotely" indicates he/she is in her/his home country performing the work. Therefore, this person would be considered an independent contractor/self employed in her/his home country and income tax would be due there.

Example: Dell Singapore hires me. They get me an EP. They pay me into my US bank account in the USA in USA dollars. I live in Singapore. I am tax resident in Singapore. I pay Singapore income tax.

Example 2: Dell figures I am working remotely from home in Singapore anyway, so they decide to cancel my EP, send me back to the USA and I work remotely for Dell in Singapore as an independent contractor. I now pay my taxes in the USA as a self employed person.

Example 3: Dell figures I am working remotely from home in Singapore anyway, so they decide to cancel my EP, send me back to the USA , only this time, Dell USA hires me onto their payroll. Now, I am a US Dell employee, and I pay tax as a working stiff in the USA.
Exactly the 2nd is my situation

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