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Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 24 Dec 2021 6:05 am

I’ve got a problem. One of my neighbors has been storing all of his stuff in the common stairwell for quite some time- not just one or two things, enough “barang” to fill up a whole room. Shoe racks, plants, clothes, old sports equipment, everything but the kitchen sink. We’ve brought this up to the management before, not only is it a fire hazard but it also gets in the way when I climb the stairs for exercise on days when its raining. Every time management comes to check, they let him off with a warning and he moves the stuff for a few days, before putting it all back and more. Does the same thing during fire inspections. Not really sure what more I can do at this point, but I’m frustrated. Anyone dealt with similar situations?
by MikeJones » Tue, 28 Dec 2021 12:56 pm
Google "how do i report a fire hazard to SCDF"
First result: "You may also submit a fire hazard report through an e-form on the SCDF website at go.gov.sg/scdf-feedback-form, and upload the relevant photos."
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Re: Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by smoulder » Fri, 24 Dec 2021 8:39 am

We have a few of these types pop up periodically in our condo. Never had to deal with them first hand. I believe the condo management informs them that it is a safety hazard because it obstructs access in case of a fire. I believe it has usually been effective in getting people to clean up at least partially.

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Re: Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by malcontent » Fri, 24 Dec 2021 9:39 pm

They have already been warned, management should now come and dispose of the stuff.

Warnings are clearly ineffective. They need to learn that if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
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Re: Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by BBCDoc » Fri, 24 Dec 2021 11:08 pm

Glue things together to make life interesting for when they try to move it away…


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Re: Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by malcontent » Sat, 25 Dec 2021 1:04 am

BBCDoc wrote:
Fri, 24 Dec 2021 11:08 pm
Glue things together to make life interesting for when they try to move it away…
Sounds like an episode of The Office… maybe encase some smaller items in jello?
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Re: Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by Lisafuller » Sat, 25 Dec 2021 2:59 am

smoulder wrote:
Fri, 24 Dec 2021 8:39 am
We have a few of these types pop up periodically in our condo. Never had to deal with them first hand. I believe the condo management informs them that it is a safety hazard because it obstructs access in case of a fire. I believe it has usually been effective in getting people to clean up at least partially.
Management has informed them many times- each time, they clear the stuff away to appease the management, only to put it all back a couple days later.

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Re: Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by Lisafuller » Sat, 25 Dec 2021 2:59 am

malcontent wrote:
Fri, 24 Dec 2021 9:39 pm
They have already been warned, management should now come and dispose of the stuff.

Warnings are clearly ineffective. They need to learn that if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
It’s quite a lot of stuff though, not sure if the management has the authority to simply dispose of all their belongings?

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Re: Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by Lisafuller » Sat, 25 Dec 2021 3:00 am

BBCDoc wrote:
Fri, 24 Dec 2021 11:08 pm
Glue things together to make life interesting for when they try to move it away…


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Hahaha, know you’re being facetious, but as much as possible I’d like to maintain friendly relations, even if their behavior is frustrating and inconsiderate. So no, that wont work.

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Re: Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by Lisafuller » Sat, 25 Dec 2021 3:01 am

malcontent wrote:
Sat, 25 Dec 2021 1:04 am
BBCDoc wrote:
Fri, 24 Dec 2021 11:08 pm
Glue things together to make life interesting for when they try to move it away…
Sounds like an episode of The Office… maybe encase some smaller items in jello?
Not funny, JIM!!!!

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Re: Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by JWNYsg » Sat, 25 Dec 2021 9:22 am

Lisafuller wrote:
Fri, 24 Dec 2021 6:05 am
I’ve got a problem. One of my neighbors has been storing all of his stuff in the common stairwell for quite some time- not just one or two things, enough “barang” to fill up a whole room. Shoe racks, plants, clothes, old sports equipment, everything but the kitchen sink. We’ve brought this up to the management before, not only is it a fire hazard but it also gets in the way when I climb the stairs for exercise on days when its raining. Every time management comes to check, they let him off with a warning and he moves the stuff for a few days, before putting it all back and more. Does the same thing during fire inspections. Not really sure what more I can do at this point, but I’m frustrated. Anyone dealt with similar situations?
Sorry to hear that. Doesn’t sound easy to navigate with a soft approach. Do you have a cctv installed to show such intrusion? Maybe that can be submitted formally as a complain instead for the MCST to legally let them know such fire hazards pose a risk for the whole community

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Re: Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by x9200 » Sat, 25 Dec 2021 2:11 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Sat, 25 Dec 2021 3:00 am
BBCDoc wrote:
Fri, 24 Dec 2021 11:08 pm
Glue things together to make life interesting for when they try to move it away…


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Hahaha, know you’re being facetious, but as much as possible I’d like to maintain friendly relations, even if their behavior is frustrating and inconsiderate. So no, that wont work.
So if the management is doing nothing apart from pretending they are doing something (a very common case), just report the problem to relevant authorities.

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Re: Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by Lisafuller » Sun, 26 Dec 2021 1:19 am

JWNYsg wrote:
Sat, 25 Dec 2021 9:22 am
Lisafuller wrote:
Fri, 24 Dec 2021 6:05 am
I’ve got a problem. One of my neighbors has been storing all of his stuff in the common stairwell for quite some time- not just one or two things, enough “barang” to fill up a whole room. Shoe racks, plants, clothes, old sports equipment, everything but the kitchen sink. We’ve brought this up to the management before, not only is it a fire hazard but it also gets in the way when I climb the stairs for exercise on days when its raining. Every time management comes to check, they let him off with a warning and he moves the stuff for a few days, before putting it all back and more. Does the same thing during fire inspections. Not really sure what more I can do at this point, but I’m frustrated. Anyone dealt with similar situations?
Sorry to hear that. Doesn’t sound easy to navigate with a soft approach. Do you have a cctv installed to show such intrusion? Maybe that can be submitted formally as a complain instead for the MCST to legally let them know such fire hazards pose a risk for the whole community
No CCTV as its a common stairwell. We’ve submitted formal complaints before, but to no avail. Not really sure what more can be done.

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Re: Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by Lisafuller » Sun, 26 Dec 2021 1:20 am

x9200 wrote:
Sat, 25 Dec 2021 2:11 pm
Lisafuller wrote:
Sat, 25 Dec 2021 3:00 am
BBCDoc wrote:
Fri, 24 Dec 2021 11:08 pm
Glue things together to make life interesting for when they try to move it away…


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Hahaha, know you’re being facetious, but as much as possible I’d like to maintain friendly relations, even if their behavior is frustrating and inconsiderate. So no, that wont work.
So if the management is doing nothing apart from pretending they are doing something (a very common case), just report the problem to relevant authorities.
Like the police? I’m just afraid of worsening relations beyond repair, right now we’re all at least civil.

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Re: Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by BBCDoc » Sun, 26 Dec 2021 7:29 am

Anything that accumulates water?

Take photos and call in the NEA about mosquito breeding and Dengue risk.


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Re: Nightmare neighbor, what to do?

Post by x9200 » Sun, 26 Dec 2021 7:40 am

Lisafuller wrote:
Sun, 26 Dec 2021 1:20 am
x9200 wrote:
Sat, 25 Dec 2021 2:11 pm
Lisafuller wrote:
Sat, 25 Dec 2021 3:00 am


Hahaha, know you’re being facetious, but as much as possible I’d like to maintain friendly relations, even if their behavior is frustrating and inconsiderate. So no, that wont work.
So if the management is doing nothing apart from pretending they are doing something (a very common case), just report the problem to relevant authorities.
Like the police? I’m just afraid of worsening relations beyond repair, right now we’re all at least civil.
I am not sure what is here the relevant authority, but not the police. SCDF has a hotline for reporting fire hazards: https://www.scdf.gov.sg/home/feedback-form (see the hotline banner with the phone numbers). Also scdf has a lot to do with buildings evacuation and fire safety. Not sure if they have the authority but I would check with them what to do in such case.
The body responsible for the fire safety of the condo is the management so you may start with them, reminding them they were already notified a few times and the problem still persists and if continues you had no choice but look for help engaging authorities.

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