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Entrapment/Enticement; is it legal in Sg?

Post by musical box » Tue, 14 Dec 2021 12:41 pm

Entrapment is a practice in which a law enforcement agent or agent of the state induces a person to commit a "crime" that the person would have otherwise been unlikely or unwilling to commit.
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Is Evidence Obtained From Entrapment Legal in Singapore?

Yes, obtaining evidence through entrapment is legal in Singapore and such evidence is admissible, or can be accepted, by the court if it is relevant to the case.
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Re: Entrapment/Enticement; is it legal in Sg?

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 14 Dec 2021 2:29 pm

Well, you guess is as good as mine, but if you stop to consider they have ISA which can lock you up for 30 years without ever charging you or bringing you to trial, I'll let you be the judge of that.
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Re: Entrapment/Enticement; is it legal in Sg?

Post by the observer » Tue, 14 Dec 2021 8:25 pm

https://singaporelegaladvice.com/law-ar ... singapore/


Is Evidence Obtained From Entrapment Legal in Singapore?

Yes, obtaining evidence through entrapment is legal in Singapore and such evidence is admissible, or can be accepted, by the court if it is relevant to the case.

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Re: Entrapment/Enticement; is it legal in Sg?

Post by the observer » Tue, 14 Dec 2021 8:30 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Tue, 14 Dec 2021 2:29 pm
Well, you guess is as good as mine, but if you stop to consider they have ISA which can lock you up for 30 years without ever charging you or bringing you to trial, I'll let you be the judge of that.
The law never forgets. Even 20 years later.

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Post by Lisafuller » Mon, 20 Dec 2021 3:09 am

the observer wrote:
Tue, 14 Dec 2021 8:25 pm
https://singaporelegaladvice.com/law-ar ... singapore/


Is Evidence Obtained From Entrapment Legal in Singapore?

Yes, obtaining evidence through entrapment is legal in Singapore and such evidence is admissible, or can be accepted, by the court if it is relevant to the case.
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Post by Lisafuller » Mon, 20 Dec 2021 3:10 am

the observer wrote:
Tue, 14 Dec 2021 8:30 pm
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Tue, 14 Dec 2021 2:29 pm
Well, you guess is as good as mine, but if you stop to consider they have ISA which can lock you up for 30 years without ever charging you or bringing you to trial, I'll let you be the judge of that.
The law never forgets. Even 20 years later.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ ... to-justice
And it doesn’t forget, either. You go to jail once here and you’re done.

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Re: Entrapment/Enticement; is it legal in Sg?

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 20 Dec 2021 4:28 pm

Not quite true. But close enough.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by Lisafuller » Thu, 23 Dec 2021 1:50 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Mon, 20 Dec 2021 4:28 pm
Not quite true. But close enough.
Even if you’re fine formally, the stigma remains.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 23 Dec 2021 11:44 am

The stigma has only boosted my son, not hindered him. I guess it depends on how you use the experience to your advantage or let it be a disadvantage.
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Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 24 Dec 2021 5:44 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Thu, 23 Dec 2021 11:44 am
The stigma has only boosted my son, not hindered him. I guess it depends on how you use the experience to your advantage or let it be a disadvantage.
Good for your son. I am personally against all forms of discrimination and would never use past incarceration as a basis for unfair treatment. My point is that not everyone sees it this way. Even if one tries not to let it get in their way, unfortunately it is society that decides ones fate.

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Re: Entrapment/Enticement; is it legal in Sg?

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 24 Dec 2021 10:31 pm

Society has never decided my fate. I make my own way, society be damned. But then I was also an early adopter of the Yellow Ribbon Project and have hired more than two dozen ex-offenders across two different companies I worked for for the past 24 years till I retired. I also always believe in 2nd chances.
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Re: Entrapment/Enticement; is it legal in Sg?

Post by Lisafuller » Sat, 25 Dec 2021 3:05 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Fri, 24 Dec 2021 10:31 pm
Society has never decided my fate. I make my own way, society be damned. But then I was also an early adopter of the Yellow Ribbon Project and have hired more than two dozen ex-offenders across two different companies I worked for for the past 24 years till I retired. I also always believe in 2nd chances.
Completely agree. What I’m referring to is the fact that not everyone shares the same views as you and I, which means that even if one does not want to allow society to dictate his fate, there are situations in which this is not possible.

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Re: Entrapment/Enticement; is it legal in Sg?

Post by PNGMK » Sat, 25 Dec 2021 7:02 pm

Lying is legal for cops here and mostly anywhere in the performance of their duties. Both of those come under telling lies.
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Re: Entrapment/Enticement; is it legal in Sg?

Post by Lisafuller » Sun, 26 Dec 2021 1:31 am

PNGMK wrote:
Sat, 25 Dec 2021 7:02 pm
Lying is legal for cops here and mostly anywhere in the performance of their duties. Both of those come under telling lies.
Seriously? Is this an actual thing or just implicit?

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Re: Entrapment/Enticement; is it legal in Sg?

Post by PNGMK » Sun, 26 Dec 2021 12:18 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Sun, 26 Dec 2021 1:31 am
PNGMK wrote:
Sat, 25 Dec 2021 7:02 pm
Lying is legal for cops here and mostly anywhere in the performance of their duties. Both of those come under telling lies.
Seriously? Is this an actual thing or just implicit?
I know for sure in Singapore and Western Australia that lying on duty is not a crime for a cop. I know some US states and federally have made explicit laws around entrapment to counter that. I don't believe the SPF have the time or manpower to run enticement or entrapment schemes except perhaps in political cases but I know the SPF will lie their pants off if required.
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
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