Race/Religion on EP

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Race/Religion on EP

Post by CrazyPizza » Mon, 15 Nov 2021 12:09 pm

Hi im malaysian. My dad is chinese and Mom is Malay and my religion in Malaysia is officially islam on documents. Is it ok for me to put chinese and atheist in my EP application? As i do identify myself more as chinese, i look chinese and i still have my surname and also i dont relaly have a religion. Will this be a problem and will the authorities question my application?

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Re: Race/Religion on EP

Post by malcontent » Tue, 16 Nov 2021 11:53 am

CrazyPizza wrote:
Mon, 15 Nov 2021 12:09 pm
Hi im malaysian. My dad is chinese and Mom is Malay and my religion in Malaysia is officially islam on documents. Is it ok for me to put chinese and atheist in my EP application? As i do identify myself more as chinese, i look chinese and i still have my surname and also i dont relaly have a religion. Will this be a problem and will the authorities question my application?
In Singapore, mixed race usually follows the father’s race by default, so putting Chinese shouldn’t raise any eyebrows. And, there is freedom of religion in Singapore, so if you put “none” and they question you, let them.

That said, I would be remiss not to encourage you to keep an open mind before resigning yourself to being an atheist.
It’s not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters ~ Epictetus

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Re: Race/Religion on EP

Post by therat » Tue, 16 Nov 2021 1:33 pm

CrazyPizza wrote:
Mon, 15 Nov 2021 12:09 pm
Hi im malaysian. My dad is chinese and Mom is Malay and my religion in Malaysia is officially islam on documents. Is it ok for me to put chinese and atheist in my EP application? As i do identify myself more as chinese, i look chinese and i still have my surname and also i dont relaly have a religion. Will this be a problem and will the authorities question my application?
My cousin Chinese married Malay lady.
His kids is Malay. Kids also have father surname.

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Re: Race/Religion on EP

Post by tiktok » Tue, 16 Nov 2021 2:23 pm

malcontent wrote:
Tue, 16 Nov 2021 11:53 am
That said, I would be remiss not to encourage you to keep an open mind before resigning yourself to being an atheist.
He might have meant agnostic 😁
I not troll/wacko/spammer.
Me no expat. Me foreigner.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 16 Nov 2021 3:23 pm

Most Asians don't really know the difference and you are right, They know what atheism is but not agnostic. That's why they just say 'freethinkers' cause they don't think at all. I've had this discussion for donkeys years as I've been Agnostic since 1960. Was Presbyterian by catechism & baptized Lutheran prior to that.
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Re: Race/Religion on EP

Post by CrazyPizza » Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:05 pm

therat wrote:
Tue, 16 Nov 2021 1:33 pm
CrazyPizza wrote:
Mon, 15 Nov 2021 12:09 pm
Hi im malaysian. My dad is chinese and Mom is Malay and my religion in Malaysia is officially islam on documents. Is it ok for me to put chinese and atheist in my EP application? As i do identify myself more as chinese, i look chinese and i still have my surname and also i dont relaly have a religion. Will this be a problem and will the authorities question my application?
My cousin Chinese married Malay lady.
His kids is Malay. Kids also have father surname.
Shouldnt the kids be chinese then since the father is chinese?

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Re: Race/Religion on EP

Post by CrazyPizza » Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:09 pm

malcontent wrote:
Tue, 16 Nov 2021 11:53 am
CrazyPizza wrote:
Mon, 15 Nov 2021 12:09 pm
Hi im malaysian. My dad is chinese and Mom is Malay and my religion in Malaysia is officially islam on documents. Is it ok for me to put chinese and atheist in my EP application? As i do identify myself more as chinese, i look chinese and i still have my surname and also i dont relaly have a religion. Will this be a problem and will the authorities question my application?

In Singapore, mixed race usually follows the father’s race by default, so putting Chinese shouldn’t raise any eyebrows. And, there is freedom of religion in Singapore, so if you put “none” and they question you, let them.

That said, I would be remiss not to encourage you to keep an open mind before resigning yourself to being an atheist.
Do i need to show proof my father is chinese? Would they know im considered malay in malaysian documents/database of some sort?

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Re: Race/Religion on EP

Post by malcontent » Wed, 17 Nov 2021 12:32 am

CrazyPizza wrote:
Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:09 pm
malcontent wrote:
Tue, 16 Nov 2021 11:53 am
CrazyPizza wrote:
Mon, 15 Nov 2021 12:09 pm
Hi im malaysian. My dad is chinese and Mom is Malay and my religion in Malaysia is officially islam on documents. Is it ok for me to put chinese and atheist in my EP application? As i do identify myself more as chinese, i look chinese and i still have my surname and also i dont relaly have a religion. Will this be a problem and will the authorities question my application?

In Singapore, mixed race usually follows the father’s race by default, so putting Chinese shouldn’t raise any eyebrows. And, there is freedom of religion in Singapore, so if you put “none” and they question you, let them.

That said, I would be remiss not to encourage you to keep an open mind before resigning yourself to being an atheist.
Do i need to show proof my father is chinese? Would they know im considered malay in malaysian documents/database of some sort?
If Malaysia is like Singapore, the races of your parents is shown on your birth cert
It’s not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters ~ Epictetus

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Re: Race/Religion on EP

Post by therat » Wed, 17 Nov 2021 8:58 am

CrazyPizza wrote:
Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:05 pm
therat wrote:
Tue, 16 Nov 2021 1:33 pm
CrazyPizza wrote:
Mon, 15 Nov 2021 12:09 pm
Hi im malaysian. My dad is chinese and Mom is Malay and my religion in Malaysia is officially islam on documents. Is it ok for me to put chinese and atheist in my EP application? As i do identify myself more as chinese, i look chinese and i still have my surname and also i dont relaly have a religion. Will this be a problem and will the authorities question my application?
My cousin Chinese married Malay lady.
His kids is Malay. Kids also have father surname.
Shouldnt the kids be chinese then since the father is chinese?
Generally yes.
But for Muslim different, You from Malaysia, you should know this better.
Didn't your dad convert when marry your mum?

I have friend, father Indian, mother Malay.
Her race: Malay.

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Re: Race/Religion on EP

Post by smoulder » Wed, 17 Nov 2021 4:09 pm

I don't think religion is mentioned on your EP. Probably in the government records, but certainly not on the card.

I'm guessing, like therat mentioned, they will default your race to whatever race is in your Malaysian ID.

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Re: Race/Religion on EP

Post by therat » Wed, 17 Nov 2021 4:52 pm

Just curious, why you so concern on putting Race: Malay in EP application?

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